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News & ArtsSunday, January 2, 2011
International Fuck Hamas! Fuck Israel!
Posted by Charles Mudede on Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Finally a real breakthrough in the Middle East conflict, and its source is the youth of Gaza...
Gaza Youth's Manifesto for Change is an extraordinary, impassioned cyber-scream in which young men and women from Gaza — where more than half the 1.5 million population is under 18 — make it clear that they've had enough. "Fuck Hamas..." begins the text. "Fuck Israel. Fuck Fatah. Fuck UN. Fuck UNWRA. Fuck USA! We, the youth in Gaza, are so fed up with Israel, Hamas, the occupation, the violations of human rights and the indifference of the international community!"This is the first actual manifesto of the 21st century. It's a total fuck you to the 20th century, which refuses to die and let us move on. Fuck you for real.
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Uh-oh, don't they know there's only One True Sin anymore, which is Thou Shalt Not Criticize Israel. Don't they realize that the Jews are the Most Persecuted People In History (tm)?
Those poor, poor, Jews. Let's all feel sorry for them.
Those poor, poor, Jews. Let's all feel sorry for them.
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I bet those Islamic musical performances are really exciting stuff for the young people in Gaza.
Going out, meeting friends in cafés – let alone clubs or discotheques – or attending cultural events has become an increasingly complicated task as Hamas cracks down on western "decadence". In Gaza there are no theatres and few concerts aside from the Islamic musical performances organised by the Hamas authorities. In the places where young men and women are allowed to meet, considered an "oasis" by the less conservative youth, the police are quick to interrogate mixed couples suspected of not being married or engaged.
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@3, fuck you, moron.
I wish this sentiment were real. Maybe it is. Reminds me of the Teabaggers, who had some semi-justified complaints, but ended up being tools of one of the entrenched establishments. But yeah, everybody there is trapped in the bullshit system.
I wish this sentiment were real. Maybe it is. Reminds me of the Teabaggers, who had some semi-justified complaints, but ended up being tools of one of the entrenched establishments. But yeah, everybody there is trapped in the bullshit system.
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Every one MUST read Shlomo Sand's book "The invention of the Jewish People".
@6, No, Fuck YOU moron.
Okay some one has to fuck me now. Jesus what does one have to do in this town to get fucked?
@6, No, Fuck YOU moron.
Okay some one has to fuck me now. Jesus what does one have to do in this town to get fucked?
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I've alway thought that peaceful demonstrations and protests would have accomplished a great deal more for Palestinians by now than violence has. No rock throwing, no bombs, just marches, day in and day out, would garner a great deal more sympathy.
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(OK, all sarcasm aside.)
@8:
I agree w/ you, up to a point. The crux is where the motivation of peaceful protest comes from. As you say, if it's to garner sympathy, we can see the ultimate end-game of that strategy w/ the actions of Israel. They are allowed to commit ruthless pogroms, atrocities, an apartheid state and blatant racism simply because they can play the sympathy card. Go into a crowd of unknown people anywhere in America and publicly criticize Israel. No matter where you do this, someone will pipe up, accusing you of wanting to send all Jews into a gas chamber.
Now, if the protester's actions are based on morality and justice, where they refuse to participate in an unjust, immoral regime, then the end result can be victory. There is no good example of this, as humans have an incredible difficulty in separating morality w/ self-pity. However, the leaders we usually look to who have achieved results using non-violence have all started w/ a deep moral sense. Where the people get bogged down is forgetting why they're doing this. The Civil Rights struggle was hi-jacked early on, where the issue went from Justice vs. Injustice to Black vs. White. MLK wanted civil rights for all, but his followers only were interested in fighting for civil rights for blacks, and they ultimately failed because of that. Yes, there were some victories, but we're still fighting for the civil rights for all Americans, as Dan continually points out.
@8:
I agree w/ you, up to a point. The crux is where the motivation of peaceful protest comes from. As you say, if it's to garner sympathy, we can see the ultimate end-game of that strategy w/ the actions of Israel. They are allowed to commit ruthless pogroms, atrocities, an apartheid state and blatant racism simply because they can play the sympathy card. Go into a crowd of unknown people anywhere in America and publicly criticize Israel. No matter where you do this, someone will pipe up, accusing you of wanting to send all Jews into a gas chamber.
Now, if the protester's actions are based on morality and justice, where they refuse to participate in an unjust, immoral regime, then the end result can be victory. There is no good example of this, as humans have an incredible difficulty in separating morality w/ self-pity. However, the leaders we usually look to who have achieved results using non-violence have all started w/ a deep moral sense. Where the people get bogged down is forgetting why they're doing this. The Civil Rights struggle was hi-jacked early on, where the issue went from Justice vs. Injustice to Black vs. White. MLK wanted civil rights for all, but his followers only were interested in fighting for civil rights for blacks, and they ultimately failed because of that. Yes, there were some victories, but we're still fighting for the civil rights for all Americans, as Dan continually points out.
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@3, being jewish and anti-zionist i can tell you that your kind of idiocy is the last thing we or palestinians need, this is not about anti-semitism, this is not about judeaism, this is an colonial apartheid system much akin to south afrika that needs to be brought down the same way.
@ 8, those kind of marches do happen, daily, look up bil'in (http://www.bilin-village.org/) and ma'asara (http://www.awalls.org/demonstrators_in_a…), sadly they are also everytime getting teargassed, battoned and shot at and they get an fraction of the attention militant actions get.
and there are also other things you need to consider, how long can an kid in palestine get shot at, their house demolished, land stolen, discriminated but at the same time being taken advatage from for cheap labor, etc etc? when everything seems hopeless its tempting to pick up that rock, that gun, that bomb.
and while i reject terrorism you also must realise that the US would never had listen to MLK without the threat of Malcom X and the Panthers, The UK would have never negotiated with Ghandi without very violent uprisings and the threat of more radical militant leaders, etc etc.
@ 8, those kind of marches do happen, daily, look up bil'in (http://www.bilin-village.org/) and ma'asara (http://www.awalls.org/demonstrators_in_a…), sadly they are also everytime getting teargassed, battoned and shot at and they get an fraction of the attention militant actions get.
and there are also other things you need to consider, how long can an kid in palestine get shot at, their house demolished, land stolen, discriminated but at the same time being taken advatage from for cheap labor, etc etc? when everything seems hopeless its tempting to pick up that rock, that gun, that bomb.
and while i reject terrorism you also must realise that the US would never had listen to MLK without the threat of Malcom X and the Panthers, The UK would have never negotiated with Ghandi without very violent uprisings and the threat of more radical militant leaders, etc etc.
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(edit, my last sentence dissapeared:)
Behind every pascifist the state wishes to negotiated with there is an militant with an gun.
Behind every pascifist the state wishes to negotiated with there is an militant with an gun.
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Fuck everybody, huh?
Sounds like a lot of young people I know. Tiresome.
This "voice of a generation" youth-power crap will go where it always goes: into dust. They'll turn into the same assholes they blame for all their problems now, just like everyone else in history always has.
Sounds like a lot of young people I know. Tiresome.
This "voice of a generation" youth-power crap will go where it always goes: into dust. They'll turn into the same assholes they blame for all their problems now, just like everyone else in history always has.
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Hear, hear!
The warmongers who stand to make more trillions from continuing wars hate this kind of talk. They would be the tea-party fuck-faces who think they invented everything. Like Hamas, the Likud, Fatah, jihadists, Islamists, the IRA and every other self-absorbed radical dumbfuck who is dumber than dogshit, they think their way is the only way. It is... if what you live for is total war.
Fuck all of them. They're all assholes, just like the cowshit-kicking president who drafted me in 1967 to fight an Asian civil war for him: LBJ. Fuck 'em all!
The warmongers who stand to make more trillions from continuing wars hate this kind of talk. They would be the tea-party fuck-faces who think they invented everything. Like Hamas, the Likud, Fatah, jihadists, Islamists, the IRA and every other self-absorbed radical dumbfuck who is dumber than dogshit, they think their way is the only way. It is... if what you live for is total war.
Fuck all of them. They're all assholes, just like the cowshit-kicking president who drafted me in 1967 to fight an Asian civil war for him: LBJ. Fuck 'em all!
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"Sounds like a lot of old people I know." Yep, just as dumb as dogshit, buddy, and enjoying eating it, too.
By the way, Charles Y. Farley says fuck you, too. Fuck you.
By the way, Charles Y. Farley says fuck you, too. Fuck you.
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One more thing, asshole: I happen to be 65 years old, but that doesn't mean my brain is dead. What it means is that I am capable of learning from my mistakes and moving on to better things than killing innocent men, women and children.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
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I'm tired of trying to read comments posted by right-wing assholes. Admittedly, I heartily disagree with their content, but my fatigue is from trying to decipher barely readable compositions. RWAHs butcher grammar, spelling and "The Elements of Style" so badly it's like listening to someone scratch their fingernails on a blackboard.
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It's really a damn shame that the UN partition plan for Palestine was never accepted by the Arabs. I can understand why, since they probably didn't feel it was fair for Jews to have even half of Palestine (plus, some Arab countries allegedly had their own agendas, like Abdullah, Jordan's king, allegedly having an informal and secret agreement with Israel, negotiated with Golda Meir, to annex the portions of Palestine allocated to the Palestinian state in the West Bank, and prevent formation of a Palestinian state.)
But, had that plan been accepted and implemented, Palestinians would have much more territory than they would have today if a separate state was created.
Moral of the story: you can refuse to compromise because the compromise offered is unfair (and that would be the natural reaction) but if you choose to do that, you can be even more fucked.
But, had that plan been accepted and implemented, Palestinians would have much more territory than they would have today if a separate state was created.
Moral of the story: you can refuse to compromise because the compromise offered is unfair (and that would be the natural reaction) but if you choose to do that, you can be even more fucked.
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Jesus, what a bunch of no-good shmucks most of you commenters are. The eight students who wrote the Gaza Youth Manifesto issued a gigantic cyber-scream, yet all some of you can do is fall back on the usual political for/against arguments, while the rest of you just walk on by and say 'Yeah yeah, heard it all before.'
Your 'sophistication' is not just deeply cynical. It's deeply, deathly boring.
Your 'sophistication' is not just deeply cynical. It's deeply, deathly boring.
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@16 What it means is that I am capable of learning from my mistakes and moving on to better things than killing innocent men, women and children.
It's funny, because Obama and the Democrats aren't really "right wing," though they are certainly conservative. Does your learning from your mistakes mean you oppose the Democrats, since they've been doing a lot of killing of innocent men, women, and children lately? (Really, they've been doing it since they've been around, just like the Republicans.)
It's funny, because Obama and the Democrats aren't really "right wing," though they are certainly conservative. Does your learning from your mistakes mean you oppose the Democrats, since they've been doing a lot of killing of innocent men, women, and children lately? (Really, they've been doing it since they've been around, just like the Republicans.)
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Congratulations, CharlesYFarley, for accomplishing something I previously though was impossible.
You are even more annoying than "Will in Seattle".
You are even more annoying than "Will in Seattle".
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