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Wednesday, November 10, 2010

Four Loko, Other Caffeinated Alcohol Drinks, Banned in Washington State

Posted by on Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:18 AM

This morning, the state's Liquor Control Board voted to implement an emergency statewide ban on caffeinated alcohol drinks. Last month, nine Central Washington University students became violently ill and were hospitalized after drinking cans of Four Loko at a party.

Via the Seattle Times:

In the unanimous vote, commissioners said they took the action because of public health and safety concerns. The ban will take effect Nov. 17 and remain in place for 120 days while the board goes through rule-making procedures for a permanent ban.

 

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Haven't we learned ANYTHING about bans and making drugs illegal? I still teach young people and if you want to stir their interest in ANYTHING, just make it illegal; suddenly it has the appeal of a wrapped Christmas Gift that says, "Do not touch."

Ya know what happened after schools started "warning" students about Auto Erotic Asphyxiation? The numbers of kids who died hanging naked in their closets soared. You can't present "The Forbidden Fruit" and then say, "it's bad for you," or "and now it's illegal, so you can't get it." I've been teaching, and speaking, and counseling for more than three decades and the best thing you can do is present ALL the evidence. Explain why people use the drugs or try the dangerous sexual experiments, and then, if you're lucky you can introduce them to someone who narrowly escaped death. Curiosity killed the cat and we are pretty much stuck with that. I love the kids I teach. I want nothing more than for them to lead healthy happy lives, BUT the minute an adult starts "lecturing" I watch as they go deaf and start daydreaming; partly because adults have been lying to them all their lives. e.g. masturbation is a sin and will make you sick, marihuana leads to heroin, you can get AIDS from kissing, you can get pregnant from necking, and the myriad of lies about drugs. Face it "adult credibility" with kids ain't nothin' to brag about.

I've found something that seems to work better than most of the "grownup crap" we use. I make them LAUGH. I get them to see the rank stupidity of killing yourself for a supposedly great orgasm (and tell them with hypnosis I can show them the Orgasm that keeps a guy's toes curled for days afterward). When I lecture to guys I answer every question with the ABSOLUTE TRUTH as I know it. And I admit when either I don't know the answer or I find out that I've been wrong. I tell them about the stupid crap I've done in my life, and how lucky I am to have survived. I also tell them about my brushes with death and what it's like to work with kids on the Cord Unit as well as the victims of bashing that are brought into the ER. I do my best to be sincere and tell them that THEY scare the shit out of me because too many of them are fearless to the point of stupidity, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE. I let them know that I worry about each and every one of them for fear they will think I'm just another adult asshole there to try to scare them into doing what I say. I hope they can feel my concern and know I'm not some BS motivational guy (no offense, you KNOW what I mean). AND I TRY TO KEEP THEM LAUGHING AT ME, AT THEMSELVES, AND AT HUMAN NATURE IN GENERAL.
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Posted by rob225 on February 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM · Report this
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If only we had the opportunity to vote on defunding the state monopoly on liquor so that this kind of knee jerk nanny policing wouldn't be possible....

Oh we did and you voted against it. Nice going. Enjoy your pabst.
Posted by sonder on November 11, 2010 at 1:49 PM · Report this
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one of the issues is that its very clearly marketed to under age kids who don't know how to handle their alcohol consumption.

@14 i agree, but something should be done to inform these kids about the dangers of this drink.
Posted by SMUT http://smutzine.tumblr.com on November 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM · Report this
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the problem isn't 4loko, the problem is that kids who go to central are morons
Posted by A Fucking Wizard on November 11, 2010 at 12:21 AM · Report this
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why must they ban everything i have ever loved?? are we going to ban energy drinks and alcohol now... oh no... the two can still be mixed...
Posted by outraged on November 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM · Report this
bigrednelson 45
prohibition is coming in seattle!
Posted by bigrednelson on November 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM · Report this
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Minors shouldn't be drinking alcohol period. If a party full of minors were drinking tequila and got sick would they ban that next? Don't take drinks away from responsible adults because a bunch of kids are doing something illegal.
Posted by miss126 on November 10, 2010 at 5:44 PM · Report this
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Minors shouldn't be drinking alcohol period. If a party full of minors were drinking tequila and got sick would they ban that next? Don't take drinks away from responsible adults because a bunch of kids are doing something illegal.
Posted by miss126 on November 10, 2010 at 5:32 PM · Report this
David Thompson 42
complete and utter bullsh*t
Posted by David Thompson on November 10, 2010 at 3:56 PM · Report this
Josh Bis 41
er, I hate it when the news is in re-runs.
http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2008/12/dea…
Posted by Josh Bis http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Author.html?oid=3815563 on November 10, 2010 at 2:25 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 40
And thus, it was banned... and no teenager or college student ever got sick from a beverage again. And we all lived happily ever after.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on November 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM · Report this
COMTE 39
@20:

Have you ever seen a group of teenagers at a fast-food restaurant? They're like bottomless wells when it comes to consuming Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper or Mountain Dew.
Posted by COMTE on November 10, 2010 at 1:58 PM · Report this
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When Four Loko is outlawed, only outlaws will drink Four Loko!
Posted by Subdued Excitement on November 10, 2010 at 1:08 PM · Report this
benjammin509 37
Stupid kids. Ruined Christmas for everyone.
Posted by benjammin509 on November 10, 2010 at 1:03 PM · Report this
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If only WiS would post more.
Posted by Jeff on November 10, 2010 at 12:56 PM · Report this
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alcohol = legal
caffeine = legal
combining the two = illegal

ok!
Posted by ddecounter on November 10, 2010 at 12:53 PM · Report this
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why do they need a 120 day temporary banning period to make rules about a permanent ban? they should just say it's banned and you can't buy it in the state anymore. done, the govt. should pay me the wages of the entire committee for those 120 days because i just made it so nobody had to waste their time.
Posted by TheMadDog on November 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 33
They should switch to heroin. It gives an even greater buzz.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on November 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM · Report this
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Bought six cans! One of each flavor 7-11 had in stock.

...Perhaps I should buy cases of it and then sell them around town during xmas time.
Posted by SeattleSeven on November 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM · Report this
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I don't think we ever have to worry about wine or coffee being banned.
This Four Loco crap though-- I'm glad they issued an emergency ban.
Everyone should be informed of the effects of combining stimulants and depressants.

Posted by lolavie on November 10, 2010 at 12:34 PM · Report this
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@20: We "young kids" are fully aware of vodka + redbulls... the beauty of the loko is not the flavor, it's the fact that it's only $3. After one, you're usually good to go for the night. I guess we're just a more economical generation...
Posted by Young Kid on November 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM · Report this
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Oh for fucks sake, Four Loko and all those other piss-water alcoholic malt beverages wouldn't even exist if it were not for their "beer" exception allowing them in grocery stores.
Posted by The shit exists just to exploit a loophole on November 10, 2010 at 12:31 PM · Report this
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And I never got a chance to try it!
Posted by Lack Thereof on November 10, 2010 at 12:28 PM · Report this
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@22 the sale of it is banned, not the use of it. There are places out side the state and on indian reservations where it can be bought.
Posted by Little Red Ryan Hood on November 10, 2010 at 12:28 PM · Report this
Cory 26
Yeah I'm gonna agree... Total bullshit.
Posted by Cory on November 10, 2010 at 12:25 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 25
Make your own.

Buy a bottle of vodka at the duty free store and a jug of concentrated coffee liquor, add sugar (best is "french" vanilla made from cane, but an anise sugar has a certain kick) and do it yourself.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on November 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM · Report this
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Smash the Nanny State!

SAVE FOUR LOKO!
Posted by Jeff on November 10, 2010 at 12:10 PM · Report this
pragmatic 23
@20 that assumes they like the taste of the things in those combinations, which by and large high school and teens don't. Adult palates are less sensitive to sweet flavors and hence adults typically prefer sour and bitter tastes more. All they'll do is dump vodka into cans of Rockstar, or worse yet combine malt liquor and Red Bull.
Posted by pragmatic on November 10, 2010 at 12:07 PM · Report this
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How will the Stranger stand to cover the next Dino Rossi election-night party without it?
Posted by supergp on November 10, 2010 at 12:06 PM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 21
Next they'll be banning roofies and meth.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://www.zombo.com on November 10, 2010 at 12:05 PM · Report this
COMTE 20
If the kids need a caffeine-and-alcohol buzz that bad, then they should start learning early-on how adults do it:

Jack-and-Cokes, Cuba Libres or Irish Coffees, that's the way to go...
Posted by COMTE on November 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM · Report this
the man who couldn't blog 19
I'm sorry. I mean:

how will i ever 'enjoy' a 'tully bomb'?
Posted by the man who couldn't blog http://happyrockisabook.tumblr.com on November 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM · Report this
the man who couldn't blog 18
How will I ever enjoy a Tully Bomb?
Posted by the man who couldn't blog http://happyrockisabook.tumblr.com on November 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM · Report this
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And then they came for my four loko, but I said nothing, because I was drunk.
Posted by Lum on November 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM · Report this
Bub 16
NO MO' FO' LOKO.
Posted by Bub on November 10, 2010 at 11:41 AM · Report this
MacCrocodile 15
First, they came for the vile-tasting energy drinks, but I said nothing because I don't drink that shit...
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on November 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM · Report this
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Nanny state horseshit.

I'm sure it tastes awful, and I'd be caught dead before drinking one. But telling people what they can and cant put in their bodies is wrong.

And another thing: How is this any different from a Vodka+Redbull, or even a Jack+Coke? Besides tasting far worse, that is.

Posted by jj41243 on November 10, 2010 at 11:39 AM · Report this
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are they gonna dump in the gutters prohibition style?
Posted by CommonKnowledge on November 10, 2010 at 11:39 AM · Report this
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@9 youl steal this shit, otherwise it'd be like taggers buying spray paint. FFFFUUUUUCCCCCKKKK.
Posted by masgroovy on November 10, 2010 at 11:38 AM · Report this
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So.. no more Irish coffee? Thanks Ireland for the first incarnation of 4loko.
Posted by 4444444444444loko on November 10, 2010 at 11:38 AM · Report this
Tingleyfeeln 10
I don't drink the stuff, I don't care for what I assume to be the target demographic (ditzy blondes and suburban wannabe thugs?), and I think this is ridiculous.
Posted by Tingleyfeeln on November 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM · Report this
misterlevitan 9
how many sloggers even buy this crap? sheesh. but i'm with #8.
Posted by misterlevitan http://www.seattlesubsonic.com on November 10, 2010 at 11:32 AM · Report this
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If they come after my coffee nudge, I'll be in the streets.
Posted by Westside forever on November 10, 2010 at 11:31 AM · Report this
ryjan 7
maby i don't know enough about politics, im cool with taxing crap like this+ soda,candy ,ciggies,beer.but jessus christ, banning it outright is stupid, i feel like we are in Utah or something..
Posted by ryjan on November 10, 2010 at 11:30 AM · Report this
alithea 6
one week to start hording the sweetest nectar that ever was.
Posted by alithea on November 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM · Report this
misterlevitan 5
Good. That shit's foul. Energy drinks in general should be banned. If you're tired, go the fuck to sleep.
Posted by misterlevitan http://www.seattlesubsonic.com on November 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM · Report this
ryjan 4
Nanny State....
Posted by ryjan on November 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM · Report this
Westlake, son! 3
Emergency ban on wine next?
Posted by Westlake, son! on November 10, 2010 at 11:26 AM · Report this
Amnt 2
I'm glad somebody finally thought of the children!

Sigh.
Posted by Amnt on November 10, 2010 at 11:26 AM · Report this
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So back to RedBull and Vodka then?
Posted by drinky on November 10, 2010 at 11:24 AM · Report this

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