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News & ArtsMonday, August 30, 2010
City / Life If Laurelhurst Can Ban Lifeflight Helicopters...
Posted by Jonathan Golob on Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:19 PM
... delivering critically ill children to Children's Hospital at night, can I ban news helicopters from hovering over my neighborhood during the day?
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Oh c'mon Jonathan, what's more important? A child's life, or aerial pictures of a traffic jam that only people that are already home will see on TV?
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Sure you can ban them.
A simple wire through the rotors works wonders.
Otherwise, aim for the fuel storage.
A simple wire through the rotors works wonders.
Otherwise, aim for the fuel storage.
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It's really great when they hover there for hours and hours. And since when has Laurelhurst banned helicopters?
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Do people in Laurelhurst not realize they live in a city? I'd like to teleport them to the far reaches of east King County.
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If you'll print the years-old article that you linked to and have someone read it to you, you'll discover that it doesn't say anything about banning Lifeguard flights into Childrens.
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I just looked at the newspaper online (yes, the real one) and a cop shot and killed a knife-wielding guy at Howell and Boren. If that's what the choppers are hovery-covering, Jonathan.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/lo…
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/lo…
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@2, if you will take down a helicopter, Will, I will contribute $20 to your defense fund. No internet for inmates at Walla Walla.
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So basically what Golob, and by implication, The Slog, Dan Savage, and Tim Keck, believe, is that the police should shoot as many unarmed citizens of Capitol Hill as they want (i.e., all of them) and all news coverage of these police murders should be banned.
Is that the position The Stranger has taken on this? Because I for one think it's wrong to censor the news, and it's wrong to murder everyone. I guess I'm old fashioned.
Is that the position The Stranger has taken on this? Because I for one think it's wrong to censor the news, and it's wrong to murder everyone. I guess I'm old fashioned.
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@2
A wire through the rotors? A wire made out of what? Fucking adamantium? You do realize that a helicopter rotor has enough tensile strength to support the weight of the helicopter, right?
Jesus. No wonder Fnarf's always beating up on you.
A wire through the rotors? A wire made out of what? Fucking adamantium? You do realize that a helicopter rotor has enough tensile strength to support the weight of the helicopter, right?
Jesus. No wonder Fnarf's always beating up on you.
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@10: And what insights we get into that cop shooting by sending a helicopter to hover over it for hours. There is no other, better, means of gleaning the aspects in the public interest of such a story--like was it justified, who was this person, how did this happen, what is the background and training of the officer involved--than sending an aircraft that is several hundred meters above the ground. Frankly, political coverage of Olympia would be best if done by helicopter. Likewise, a thoughtful analysis of the viaduct replacement practically demands extensive action news coverage via helicopter.
Any less would be completely lacking in substance, substituting glitter for investigation. Right?
Any less would be completely lacking in substance, substituting glitter for investigation. Right?
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"In the 1990s, when the hospital proposed adding two helipads, the Laurelhurst Community Club objected, according to Hale, the club's president.
Hale said the concern was not about flying in critically ill or injured children, but that the hospital might noisily ferry in supplies and doctors anytime it wanted.
"We worked through that," Benfield said.
Now the hospital reports every quarter to local residents and a review committee on all its helicopter landings, the patient's diagnosis and whether the child lived or died."
I wonder what diagnosis the child has to have, and whether the Community Club would prefer for it to live or die, to justify the noise.
@11 - I think #2 meant the wire would tangle up the mechanism and stop the rotors from spinning, not actually break them or whatever. I'm not very good at understanding things, though, so I could be wrong.
Hale said the concern was not about flying in critically ill or injured children, but that the hospital might noisily ferry in supplies and doctors anytime it wanted.
"We worked through that," Benfield said.
Now the hospital reports every quarter to local residents and a review committee on all its helicopter landings, the patient's diagnosis and whether the child lived or died."
I wonder what diagnosis the child has to have, and whether the Community Club would prefer for it to live or die, to justify the noise.
@11 - I think #2 meant the wire would tangle up the mechanism and stop the rotors from spinning, not actually break them or whatever. I'm not very good at understanding things, though, so I could be wrong.
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"Hale said the concern was not about flying in critically ill or injured children, but that the hospital might noisily ferry in supplies and doctors anytime it wanted."
How transparently craven or blindingly stupid do you have to be to assert that your problem with the helipad is that the hospital might, at *insane cost* use helicopters for transportation for anything other than patients?
How transparently craven or blindingly stupid do you have to be to assert that your problem with the helipad is that the hospital might, at *insane cost* use helicopters for transportation for anything other than patients?
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@15, I laughed long and loud at that blindingly stupid assertion--FedEx existed even awaaaaaay back in the 1980s, after all--but hospitals DO do many things at *insane cost*, as anyone knows who has been unfortunate enough to see (and pay) a detailed E.R. bill as an uninsured individual.
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Oh really, @14 - and here i thought from the title of this post that Laurelhurst banned night-time helicopter flights containing kids. But that doesn't seem to be the case at all. No mention of a ban, and even no mention of nighttime.
Oh, wait - I forgot, Golob is a fucking hack. The fact that the post sits there, uncorrected, cements it.
Oh, wait - I forgot, Golob is a fucking hack. The fact that the post sits there, uncorrected, cements it.
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Children's aside, I am so with Jonathan on the helicopters hovering for hours, and AT all hours, over downtown and Capitol Hill. It's like it doesn't matter that we actually LIVE here.
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We should ask that fancy attorney from laurelhurst if she's behind this "no fly" crap. Kris Donohoe? She's decided that money can buy a judgeship in Seattle courts and she's all about protecting Laurelhurst and the billionaire, beachfront lifestyle..... Her house has Dino Rossi signs all over the front yard, for g_d's sake!
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@8 don't worry, Fnarf, I already got a vial of your DNA to leave with the launcher.
Cause DNA never lies.
Cause DNA never lies.
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@20
So... Will. You didn't by any chance acquire this DNA from Fnarf while you were going down on him or something, did you? I don't mean to pry. It's just a curious idea -- a "vial of DNA". How does one come across such a thing? And did you actually leave the vial? Because I'm thinking a cop probably wouldn't take a VIAL of DNA as seriously at they would, like, some DNA on a surface or something. As it is, I'd expect the cop to find the launcher, find this mysterious VIAL of DNA and be like, "Well, whoever it was who shot down that chopper apparently doesn't swallow."
So... Will. You didn't by any chance acquire this DNA from Fnarf while you were going down on him or something, did you? I don't mean to pry. It's just a curious idea -- a "vial of DNA". How does one come across such a thing? And did you actually leave the vial? Because I'm thinking a cop probably wouldn't take a VIAL of DNA as seriously at they would, like, some DNA on a surface or something. As it is, I'd expect the cop to find the launcher, find this mysterious VIAL of DNA and be like, "Well, whoever it was who shot down that chopper apparently doesn't swallow."
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@12: And tell me, where is that deep, incisive coverage from your esteemed publication. On Slog? Ha!
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