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News & ArtsSaturday, August 7, 2010
Celeb The Endless Sorrows of Larry Fishburne
Posted by Charles Mudede on Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:25 PM
It gets worse:
Laurence Fishburne's wannabe porn star daughter was arrested last year for alleged prostitution, according to newly uncovered court records.In this world, the ordinary world of codes and customs, and we are almost certain that Montana is a full citizen of the ordinary world of codes and customs, there are only two possible explanations for this kind of extreme behavior: One, from crust to core, Montana really hates her father (the absolute master of her little universe) and will do anything to make him feel it. Or two, the father is awfully tight with his money, provided her with zero resources to make a living, and she now owns nothing but the last and most fundamental resource, a genetic resource everyone gets for free, the body. Which is it? If one, we can begin to suspect that the daughter wanted sex from the father but was denied—this block meant that she could never be like her mother, a woman who fucked the absolute master. The result? Montana has decided to fuck the complete opposite of the one and true master: whatever or any man.The Matrix star was said to be furious after his teenage daughter Montana announced plans to release an adult video later this month.
But the actor has had other things to worry about in the past - the 19 year old nearly ended up in jail after she was caught reportedly selling sex, according to legal documents filed in the Superior Court of California and obtained by EOnline.com.
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@1 FTW. Seriously, what makes you so convinced it's about Lawrence? Sure, it could be about him. Could also be about her mother, her second cousin, or, um, I don't know, her OWN frickin' issues and decisions. I enjoy some your posts sometimes, Charles, but all this projection is getting old.
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@3.. i dunno charles.. i wouldn't promise so soon. i think montana has a few more ...ummmm. tricks up her sleeve.
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Maybe she does it because she wants to and she doesn't give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks...
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I have to wonder about grown men who think little girls want to have sex with their fathers. Rethink your reasoning, Charles.
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Clearly Charles is a troll. And the master of his little girl's universe. It seems that being illegitimately kicked out of her AP class is not among her biggest problems.
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"we can begin to suspect that the daughter wanted sex from the father but was denied—this block meant that she could never be like her mother, a woman who fucked the absolute master. The result? Montana has decided to fuck the complete opposite of the one and true master: whatever or any man."
whoa dude, this is not turn of the century Vienna. This just seems more a slice of your mind than I would ever want to know about. I'm not sure who to worry about more Charles, Montana or you.
yikes!
whoa dude, this is not turn of the century Vienna. This just seems more a slice of your mind than I would ever want to know about. I'm not sure who to worry about more Charles, Montana or you.
yikes!
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There are so many, many more than two possible explanations for her behavior. And going from her possible hatred for her father to your speculation as to the root of that hatred - that she wanted sex from him - is mind boggling. I know you're capable of deep thinking, but your thoughts seem to always be very narrow on this type of matter, about women and their behavior and sexuality.
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"The Matrix star was said to be furious..." is hilarious for some reason. He was furious! And @5 - that made me laugh.
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I hope Charles' daughter doesn't end up sexting to any boyfriends; he'll probably honor-kill her.
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"The difference between stupid and intelligent people-- and this is true whether or not they are well-educated-- is that intelligent people can handle subtlety. They are not baffled by ambiguous or even contradictory situations-- in fact, they expect them and are apt to become suspicious when things seem overly straightforward." -Neal Stephenson
This is a Hollywood family. I've never been close friends w/ anyone who was a star or worked w/ stars, but I know enough about their lives to reject your a priori assumption that these people live in an ordinary world, and that their codes and customs aren't skewed from what most Americans live in.
So while there are certainly instances of young women turning to prostitution and pornography inspired by psychological difficulties arising from inadequate or aberrant bonding w/ the opposite-sex parent, I will hesitate to draw certain conclusions based on that assumption in this instance, where the strange world of Hollywood and it's peculiar customs and codes hold sway.
In fact, I would guess that their relationship is quite complex, and there is much more going on that we'll never know or understand.
This is a Hollywood family. I've never been close friends w/ anyone who was a star or worked w/ stars, but I know enough about their lives to reject your a priori assumption that these people live in an ordinary world, and that their codes and customs aren't skewed from what most Americans live in.
So while there are certainly instances of young women turning to prostitution and pornography inspired by psychological difficulties arising from inadequate or aberrant bonding w/ the opposite-sex parent, I will hesitate to draw certain conclusions based on that assumption in this instance, where the strange world of Hollywood and it's peculiar customs and codes hold sway.
In fact, I would guess that their relationship is quite complex, and there is much more going on that we'll never know or understand.
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I will give you this, Charles; it's a good "Fuck You" to the old man if that sort of thing is what pisses the old man off. Me, I'd be like "Make sure your clients wear condoms, stay healthy, and please warn me if you have a new release video out so I can steer clear of porn sites for a few months."
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You actually just publicly said she might have secretly wanted to fuck him. What the fuck? Where did you even come up with that?! This isn't funny. This isn't clever or insightful. You're making my opinion of the Stranger in general spiral downward.
I hate to break it to you and crush your insane little incest fantasies here, but if a woman gets into sex work because of daddy issues, it's more likely she was molested than lusting for paternal penis.
I hate to break it to you and crush your insane little incest fantasies here, but if a woman gets into sex work because of daddy issues, it's more likely she was molested than lusting for paternal penis.
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Still, he may have something.
The dynamic between a father and daughter can be devastating sometimes, and it's not always because Dad is abusive and controlling. I've picked up on the Electrah Complex with more than a few female acquaintances I've known -- sex, love, possessiveness, revenge can all overlap in this case -- and if there's one thing I've learned when Dad marries a younger woman (Gina Torres is the second, younger, babe-like trade-up spouse) and introduces her into the family unit: never come between a girl and her daddy.
Shit will get ugly.
The dynamic between a father and daughter can be devastating sometimes, and it's not always because Dad is abusive and controlling. I've picked up on the Electrah Complex with more than a few female acquaintances I've known -- sex, love, possessiveness, revenge can all overlap in this case -- and if there's one thing I've learned when Dad marries a younger woman (Gina Torres is the second, younger, babe-like trade-up spouse) and introduces her into the family unit: never come between a girl and her daddy.
Shit will get ugly.
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@21, Charles: You do not know all women, or how all women make their decisions. You do not know this particular woman, or how she makes her decisions. Please stop speculating (publicly, and at length) about something for which you have no basis for knowledge.
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"You do not know all women, or how all women make their decisions. You do not know this particular woman, or how she makes her decisions. Please stop speculating (publicly, and at length) about something for which you have no basis for knowledge."
Quoted for truth. As shocking as it might be, women are not some monolithic alien species, but as variable as men.
Quoted for truth. As shocking as it might be, women are not some monolithic alien species, but as variable as men.
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Really, this story is amazing:
"Laurence Fishburne's pals tried to spare his blushes by buying up every copy of his daughter's porn DVD for $1 million - but they'd already been shipped out to suppliers. "The Matrix" star's 19-year-old daughter Montana Fishburne admits her father was devastated when footage from her X-rated movie was posted online last week.
Now it has emerged the actor's friends hatched a plan to stop the saucy film spreading on the internet - by snapping up every copy before they hit stores. Lawyer Yale Galanter was reportedly hired to contact the offices of Vivid Entertainment to offer $1 million for the DVDs, but he was too late to strike a deal, according to TMZ.com.
The company's boss, Steve Hirsch, tells the website, "It's true that we had several conversations with Mr. Galanter. We would have stopped shipment but it was too late. We continue to have the utmost respect for all involved."
"Laurence Fishburne's pals tried to spare his blushes by buying up every copy of his daughter's porn DVD for $1 million - but they'd already been shipped out to suppliers. "The Matrix" star's 19-year-old daughter Montana Fishburne admits her father was devastated when footage from her X-rated movie was posted online last week.
Now it has emerged the actor's friends hatched a plan to stop the saucy film spreading on the internet - by snapping up every copy before they hit stores. Lawyer Yale Galanter was reportedly hired to contact the offices of Vivid Entertainment to offer $1 million for the DVDs, but he was too late to strike a deal, according to TMZ.com.
The company's boss, Steve Hirsch, tells the website, "It's true that we had several conversations with Mr. Galanter. We would have stopped shipment but it was too late. We continue to have the utmost respect for all involved."
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He's a shit dad with a fetish for purple cars. My buddy sold him a car and said the guy is fucking insane.
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Sounds like everyone was not getting her genetic resource for free!
As for this pop psychology about wanting to fuck her father... seriously, where did The Stranger find this guy? I seriously hope he's not getting paid anything for this drivel.
a genetic resource everyone gets for free, the body
Sounds like everyone was not getting her genetic resource for free!
As for this pop psychology about wanting to fuck her father... seriously, where did The Stranger find this guy? I seriously hope he's not getting paid anything for this drivel.
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Right then, what does any of this matter? Isn't it really none of this woman's father's business what she does with her body? She's an adult, can't she do whatever she wants with her body? Why does it have to be a betrayal of her father, an expression of her sexual attraction for her father, or a grab for money? It sounds a lot more like the father has issues with the daughter than the daughter with the father.
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Rather than being amused that people are taking you seriously, Charles, you might want to reflect on what you've put out there that makes people so ready to believe that you mean this seriously. Have any of your earlier posts suggested that you might have a little problem with respecting women?
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PS You might also want to consider whether your daughter will be able to come across this when she's a little older and more internet-savvy.
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@30, i think she is already "internet-savvy." also, what i do not get is how many americans immediately think this: everything about you is yours and yours alone. pure ideological nonsense. "it's mine, i can do what ever i want with what's mine." americans are so fast to talk themselves into such a crazy corner.
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If she's already exploring the internet, then she can read what you've written here about father-daughter incest and about a father being a daughter's "one and true master". Does that not worry you a bit?
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This is worse, because this is about her (I know that wasn't your intention, but that's how she's going to interpret it).
I've never been a fan of your slog posts, Charles, but I've never taken the time to point it out before. But I'm so revolted by the thought of a little girl discovering her dad's words here...
Please stop being a philosopher or hipster or whatever you are for a few minutes and be a goddamn father.
I've never been a fan of your slog posts, Charles, but I've never taken the time to point it out before. But I'm so revolted by the thought of a little girl discovering her dad's words here...
Please stop being a philosopher or hipster or whatever you are for a few minutes and be a goddamn father.
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A woman becomes a prostitute or pornographer. Explanation? One: she hates her father. Two: her father doesn't give her enough of his money; he provides "zero" resources to make a living. i.e. women have only the resources of their fathers or the qualities of their bodies to offer. This perspective clarifies the nature of your posts.
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@31, What is the limit to what one can do with their self and belongings? Do Montana's actions exceed those limits?
To what end are you making these posts? If the intent is ironic, from the context of these posts on this topic it is impossible to tell.
To what end are you making these posts? If the intent is ironic, from the context of these posts on this topic it is impossible to tell.
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What sort of quasi-Freudian claims are these to be making? This is just a highly pretentious version of celebrity junk news you'd see on TMZ or Perez Hilton. I'd rather be reading about sea monkeys.
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A woman becomes a sex worker because she wants to fuck daddy?
That statement says more about Charles' twisted psyche than any relation to reality.
Back here on planet earth, the sad fact is the majority of sex workers have been molested as children.
In Charles world, it's somehow blame-the-victim: the kiddies wanted it!
That statement says more about Charles' twisted psyche than any relation to reality.
Back here on planet earth, the sad fact is the majority of sex workers have been molested as children.
In Charles world, it's somehow blame-the-victim: the kiddies wanted it!
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You know, @40, i take that back. i want to make myself clear. my meaning was actually to mock pop psychology. anyone who knows me, knows i hate freud and freudian nonsense. i have shared this dislike with nabakov ever since i started reading nabokov (in 1991). as for the father/daughter thing, i think montana is sadly not very smart or the sort of person who could do something smart with porn. with her, it is what it is--entry to a celebrity club that has been long filling up. and so why the laughter at larry? because it reminds us that no place in society is secure and certain. we can always fall, we can always be undone.
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Sooooo that was supposed to be satire?
You can't prove it by me, who worked in professional comedy and humor (magazines, stage, books, TV, newspapers) for over 20 years, and it didn't strike me as funny (nor a number of the civilian posters posters above.)
Nor was it discernable as satire.
Good comedy punches up, not down. I can count the number of incest jokes that work on no fingers.
Calling a young woman you don't know stupid also doesn't strike me as "laughing at larry," funny, fair, or an example of punching up.
Distasteful, at best. And the ick factor of your satire, sir, dials up to 11.
Prompting the question: What the hell is wrong with you?
You can't prove it by me, who worked in professional comedy and humor (magazines, stage, books, TV, newspapers) for over 20 years, and it didn't strike me as funny (nor a number of the civilian posters posters above.)
Nor was it discernable as satire.
Good comedy punches up, not down. I can count the number of incest jokes that work on no fingers.
Calling a young woman you don't know stupid also doesn't strike me as "laughing at larry," funny, fair, or an example of punching up.
Distasteful, at best. And the ick factor of your satire, sir, dials up to 11.
Prompting the question: What the hell is wrong with you?
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I've also read and studied Nabokov -- over and beyond Lolita -- and, sir, you are no Nabokov, either.
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I see we have left the Amanda Knox fan fiction saga for now and entered the Montana Fishburne fan fiction saga.
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Far be it from me to defend Charles on this one, but Mr. Fishburne did actually give his kid a porn star name.
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