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Thursday, July 29, 2010

Such Nice Dogs

Posted by on Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:45 AM

"Neighbors say the dogs... were not known to be aggressive toward people."

 

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biffster 1
[generic pit bull defense]
Posted by biffster on July 29, 2010 at 12:56 PM
2
It's a shame those dogs wasted their efforts on a mail carrier and not a, whiny, ignorant anti-pit advocate.
Posted by joemomma on July 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Urgutha Forka 3
I can't wait until a story appears in which a youth pastor molests a kid whose hetero parents were neglecting him and then the pastor's pit bull attacks the kid afterwards.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on July 29, 2010 at 1:19 PM
4
does that mean that they had shown aggressive to other non-people items?
Posted by Faer on July 29, 2010 at 1:39 PM
5
So this dog was running around the neighborhood off-leash and none of the neighbors with kids called animal control? Jesus, people, take a memo: If you see a loose pit-bull, do everyone a favor and call the dog-catcher.
Posted by Don't Wait on July 29, 2010 at 2:41 PM
TVDinner 6
Jesus H on a popsicle stick! That guy is six three, three hundred pounds, and those two dogs got him down.

Sheee-ot.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on July 29, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Dee 7
@3 - Aahahahaha. Neither can I , now you mention it.
Posted by Dee on July 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM
ForkyMcSpoon 8
Hey Dan, can you identify the pit bull?

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/…
Posted by ForkyMcSpoon on July 29, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Vampireseal 9
The article's mention of the owner's failure to leash dogs and failure to vaccinate pretty much tells me all I need to know about the dogs and their owners. This is a prime example of the kind of people that should not own a pit. Likely, they were neither altered, trained, or socialized around strangers in any kind of fashion.

I wish more of these dog attack stories would give the run-down on the altered and training status of the dogs. Why breed warrants a mention, but not whether they are neutered or spayed is beyond me. In my line of work (I'm a vet assistant), the number one indicator of likelihood of aggression was whether or not the dog was neutered. 80% of the dog/dog attacks I saw had at least one intact male. There was never any real prevalence of any one breed. Only extremely severe maulings had any breed prevalence. They dogs were all 100% unneutered males and either pit bulls or Jack Russell terriers.
Posted by Vampireseal on July 29, 2010 at 8:20 PM
Lavode 10
I donated to fight Prop 2 in Florida, and asked Dan this question: "Is there a later scientific peer-reviewed study supporting the efficacy of breed bans that forms (in part or whole) the foundation of your opinion?"

As part of my preamble, I explained that I have searched online for such a study, but could not find anything. I could only find the CDC study of 2000, which actually states that there is no such evidence. I was hoping that there might be a later study I could read.

Dan's response was
"breed bans have worked in the UK, and they work well in Denver. i don't trust the studies you cite.

all the best,
dan"

Now, I am ecstatic that he did NOT simply tell me off. However, he didn't really answer the question, as he doesn't cite any study in the UK or Denver. So I am left with the conclusion that No, Dan Savage does not base his opinions of breed bans on any scientific evidence.

What I find interesting is that he "doesn't trust the studies [I] cite." I believe there was a study in the UK that also concluded that there is no supporting evidence of the efficacy of breed bans. But he doesn't trust scientific research? What does he trust? His gut?

I find that his response, while deservedly terse, spoke volumes. His opinions on breed bans are simply that: opinions. He is neither more nor less correct than the rest of us. In fact, his opinions can be said to be faith-based, since he chooses to discount evidence that does not agree with his ideas.
Posted by Lavode on July 29, 2010 at 8:29 PM
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A failure to raise any animal well may end with detrimental ends; case and point jeffrey dahmer, ted bundy, gary ridgway (green river), etc.
Posted by stop over reacting on July 30, 2010 at 12:53 AM
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It was German Shepherds in the eighties, Dobies and Rotts in the nineties and Pits in the aughties. In a completely unexpected development, however, the yuppies where I live have discovered bully breeds--I live in a yuppified neighborhood and every third yup couple has an American Bulldog or an AmStaff trotting alongside their jogging stroller and a good working knowledge of the issues surrounding their dog.

I wonder which breed is going to get demonized next.
Posted by Happy the Homophobe on July 30, 2010 at 9:57 PM

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