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Thursday, July 29, 2010

Hate Registration: Faith 102

Posted by on Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:13 PM

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There was a problem when I went to the Glenn Beck Insider Extreme website last night to watch Faith 102: The class had been delayed for one hour to make room for a Beck-produced documentary titled Fundamental Transformation, about progressives and how they have a hundred-year-long plan to destroy America (damn you, Woodrow Wilson!). Because I made post-class plans based on Beck U's normal hours, I couldn't watch the class in real time—I had to watch it on demand this morning at 8:30. I learned two things from watching this class after the fact: 1. Glenn Beck is a bitter pill to swallow in the morning. 2. I didn't have access to the post-lecture chat room. Those dullards chiming in on what they've just "learned" has fast become one of my favorite parts of attending Beck University.

Anyway: As with Faith 101 (my notes on that class are here), our professor is David Barton, a smarmy man who has made it his life's work to prove that America is a Christian nation. This week, his lecture addresses the liberal myth that the Founding Fathers were secular-minded people.

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Not true, says Barton! And he will address these lies by looking at the two Founding Fathers who are perceived as the most godless: Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. Barton says that this is a classic example of Deconstructionism:

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Barton says that Deconstructionism is “why people go all over the world apologizing for America.” Anyway, you know how Jefferson is a godless heathen? Wrong! He totally went to church. They had Sunday church all over Washington D.C. those days—in the House chambers, in the Treasury, in the War Department. Barton goes to great lengths to prove that Jefferson went to church. Why, when the Louisiana Purchase took place, Jefferson even allowed government funding to go to formerly French-operated Christian schools in New Orleans! He signed papers "In the year of our lord Christ," too! Of course, Barton doesn't once mention the Jefferson Bible, which suggests that he had some fairly huge problems with Christianity, but whatever.

Benjamin Franklin, though, he was totally a Satan-worshipper, right? Turns out, no! Did you know that in our original national seal, which was Benjamin Franklin's idea, you can see Moses destroying his enemies in the Red Sea? And that when the writing of the Constitution wasn't going well, it was Franklin who suggested that the Founders took three days off, to pray and stuff? And that when Thomas Paine was going to publish On Reason, Franklin discouraged him from writing a negative treatise on religion? Barton showed a heavily censored version of Franklin's letter, making it sound like Franklin was offended in a religious sense; instead, the letter sounds more like Franklin doesn't trust the masses without religion to keep them in line, and fears for his friend's life if the religious get a hold of it. I'm going to include Franklin's whole letter to Paine after the jump. I will mark the parts that Barton cut out, for the sake of perspective. In conclusion, Benjamin Franklin was a godly person. Um. Er.

Finally, Barton concludes: "Were America’s founders secular? No. I could take you through all the others, but just Jefferson and Franklin prove my point." Jesus fuck, I hate this smarmy fucking man. he's the worst professor at Beck University and I'm glad I only have one more class with him.

David Fucking Barton
  • David Fucking Barton

The original seal of the United States. Note Moses there. Hes drowning his foes. Just like they do in America!
  • The original seal of the United States. Note Moses there. He's drowning his foes. Just like they do in America!

Here's Franklin's letter to Paine. The parts that Barton left out are included in bold:

At present I shall only give you my opinion that, though your reasons are subtle, and may prevail with some readers, you will not succeed so as to change the general sentiments of mankind on that subject, and the consequence of printing this piece will be, a great deal of odium drawn upon yourself, mischief to you, and no benefit to others. He that spits against the wind spits in his own face.

But were you to succeed, do you imagine any good would be done by it? You yourself may find it easy to live a virtuous life, without the assistance afforded by religion; you having a clear perception of the advantage of virtue, and the disadvantages of vice, and possessing a strength of resolution sufficient to enable you to resist common temptations. But think how great a portion of mankind consists of weak and ignorant men and women, and of inexperienced, inconsiderate youth of both sexes, who have need of the motives of religion to restrain them from vice, to support their virtue, and retain them in the practice of it till it becomes habitual, which is the great point for its security. And perhaps you are indebted to her originally, that is to your religious education, for the habits of virtue upon which you now justly value yourself. You might easily display your excellent talents of reasoning upon a less hazardous subject, and thereby obtain a rank with our most distinguished authors. For among us it is not necessary, as among the Hottentots, that a youth, to be raised into the company of men, should prove his manhood by beating his mother.

I would advise you, therefore, not to attempt unchaining the tiger, but to burn this piece before it is seen by any other person, whereby you will save yourself a great deal of mortification by the enemies it may raise against you, and perhaps a great deal of regret and repentance. If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be if without it?

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1
His analysis... seems valid.
Posted by Brevity... is wit. on July 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM
2
Why are you trying to make Jesus cry with your "facts" and "context"? Are you one of those hoity-toits trying to win the Noble Prize? Because you know we don't stand for that among our citizens here in America, right?
Posted by S-Lo on July 29, 2010 at 2:39 PM
Lily Fluffbottom 3
I mean, as long as you got some sort of compensation for going...
Posted by Lily Fluffbottom on July 29, 2010 at 3:00 PM
wisepunk 4
Why is there a giant glowing vagina in the sky above moses?
Posted by wisepunk on July 29, 2010 at 3:01 PM
5
Sigh.

Never seems to occur to these people that religious people could still strongly intend and deliberately work toward a secular government, with protections for religious freedom.

It doesn't matter a damn if they were all ordained clergy who were assumed bodily into heaven while the ink on the Constitution was drying.

The COUNTRY is still not Christian, even if everyone in it was.
Posted by Lymis on July 29, 2010 at 3:32 PM
Arsenic7 6
Holy shit.

That is some blatant cut and pasting right there. How does this guy LIVE with his obviously false opinions?
Posted by Arsenic7 on July 29, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Fnarf 7
Woodrow Wilson was no progressive. He was a hard-core racist who put into place much of the legal structure of Jim Crow.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 29, 2010 at 3:40 PM
8
Paul, you're bringing "taking one for the team" to the next level. A thousand blessings on you for sitting through this bullshit and summarizing, so we don't have to suffer through it ourselves.

And holy shit, that Barton loon really went to town butchering that letter. How the fuck do these people sleep at night?
Posted by JenV on July 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM
9
Also, I love how wing-tards think that liberals and progressives are all lazy, shiftless, no-ambition, unemployed, welfare-collecting, pot-smoking, ne'er-do-well hippies, and yet somehow we managed to put together AND implement a nefarious 100-year plan to destroy the country.
Posted by JenV on July 29, 2010 at 4:05 PM
COMTE 10
@4:

Obviously this battle was fought years ago near the intersection of Mercer St. & Dexter Ave. N.
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on July 29, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Simone 11
that's a horrible looking seal
Posted by Simone on July 29, 2010 at 4:29 PM
TVDinner 12
Well, you can't argue with people who make up the facts.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on July 29, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Fnarf 13
@10, now you're going to make me cry. I loved those blue labia.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 29, 2010 at 4:56 PM
Urgutha Forka 14
Why do liberals need a hundred years to destroy America? The republicans did it in eight.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on July 29, 2010 at 6:00 PM
paulcam 15
It should be noted that the assertion that Jefferson signed papers "in the year of our Lord Christ" is false.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/6…

(warning: link is a rather long rebuttal)
Posted by paulcam on July 29, 2010 at 6:05 PM
venomlash 16
@13: Blue labia?
http://www.sweatygooch.com/wp-content/up…
WARNING: not safe for work, stomachs, or anything, really. In fact, you probably shouldn't click on it.
Posted by venomlash on July 29, 2010 at 6:34 PM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 17
Urgutha: Amen.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on July 29, 2010 at 6:35 PM
18
The Founding Fathers were in a unique position in American Politics: Since many of their documented public statements preceded the revolution, they had a freedom to be candid about their true beliefs that has never been duplicated. Once politicians had to start winning votes from the American electorate, those progressive views on religion dropped from public sight pretty quickly.

I'll bet lots of leaders since have held similar beliefs in private, but they're never gonna say so in public.
Posted by It's all about the Franklin on July 29, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Fnarf 19
@15, that's a beautiful debunking article, and proves beyond a doubt that Barton's work is garbage, and Beck's "university" is completely bogus.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 29, 2010 at 11:26 PM

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