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Tuesday, May 25, 2010

Four Teabaggers on the King County Council

Posted by on Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM

We put out the paper on Tuesdays, so I don't have time to dig into details here (sorry). But Scott Gutierrez at Seattlepi.com has the story on the King County Council's second failed attempt to cover public safety costs. Here's more info on last week's failed vote to raise the sales tax 2/10ths of a percent. It lost because four members (all Republicans) of the (nonpartisan) council don't want any taxes—even if it means firings scores of sheriff's deputies and prosecutors:

The King County Council's second attempt at finding money for criminal justice services failed Tuesday as a proposal to ask voters to increase their property taxes didn't garner enough votes.

Like the sales-tax vote one day earlier, the council voted 5-4, along partisan lines, in favor of putting the measure before voters in August. Because it was considered an emergency measure, it required six votes to pass.

The proposal would have asked voters for a new levy to fund criminal justice. ... The net increase would have been about $38 more per year for the owner of a $400,000 home.

The four council members voting against both proposals—Kathy Lambert, Reagan Dunn, Jane Hague, Pete von Reichbauer—do they have a plan? The county is running $60 million in the hole next year. They're $47 million short on police, prosecutors, and firefighters. Nobody wants to push a regressive tax, of course. But time is nearly gone to get a revenue measure on the August ballot (in time for planning next year's budget). Nobody wants to call 911 and have zero response or have violent criminals released from jail because we don't have the resources to charge them with a crime quickly, either. So do these four teabaggers have any ideas about how to fund those services—or are they just petulantly screaming, "No," and voting against any tax increase?

UPDATE: Council member Jane Hague, who voted against putting proposals before voters, says in a statement: "I’m eager to work on a broad bipartisan solution in which we seriously address King County’s structural budget gap. If this entire process were about ‘voter choice’ as some of my colleagues have suggested, we should at least present them with something we are all committed to.” But Hague doesn't present any plan, a proposal, or a bi-partisan solution.

UPDATE 2: I'm not the only one who notices that the teabaggers on the council have zilch for solutions—no plans for cuts, for revenue, etc. "There's no specifics, there's no proposal up here. There's nothing," says council member Julia Patterson.

 

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Will in Seattle 1
Face it, if we have to cut somewhere, the MJ-obsessed KC Sheriff's office is the best place.

Besides, the FBI says violent crime is at 50 year lows per capita, as County stats agree.

Guess Sue Rahr will have to find another taxpayer-financed springboard to her GOP nomination for a Congressional seat ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on May 25, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Max Solomon 2
has anyone ASKED them? because that's something a 'reporter' could do anytime they wanted.
Posted by Max Solomon on May 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM
3
or are they just petulantly screaming, "No," and voting against any tax increase?"


Republicans rarely just petulantly scream "No!" when tax hikes are proposed. Instead, they petulantly scream "No!" and then, in the next breath, explain how the shortfalls should be made up with "efficiencies" or "trimming the fat."

If they're feeling really ambitious, sometimes they'll name a government service that sounds comically unnecessary (usually by virtue of being poorly understood) as an example of all the "fat" in the budget.
Posted by Proteus on May 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM
Will in Seattle 4
Reporters are lazy nowadays. They survive off a diet of Red Bull, Cheetos, and tweets.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on May 25, 2010 at 3:55 PM
meanie 5
Serious your defending needing more KC sheriffs? Aside from the few with neighborhood beats, the downtown and metro deputies are unrepentant assholes with bad habits of assualting and maiming people for life. ( dude with the broken neck from the cinerama )

They have a crazed blood lust for marijuana raids as well. we should be throwing a party they got their budgets cut.

If the conservative types that live in the exuburbs need some socialism make them beg for it.
Posted by meanie http://www.spicealley.net on May 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM
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I'm curious if these council members live in incorporated cities within KC. If so, this would go a long way to explain their votes: they're not having to deal with crazy response times because they're jurisdictions are so under-served by the KCSO and whatever (county) fire district they're in.
Posted by pony on May 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM
Simone 7
As Groucho Marx once sang:

"I don't know what they have to say,
It makes no difference anyway,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
No matter what it is or who commenced it,
I'm against it.

Your proposition may be good,
But let's have one thing understood,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
And even when you've changed it or condensed it,
I'm against it.

I'm opposed to it,
On general principle, I'm opposed to it."

I immediately start thinking of these lyrics when I hear about republicans/teabagers who say no or are against it.
Posted by Simone on May 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 8
@7

Yeah!!! It’s really surprising when one considers how supportive the Democrats were of all the Bush policies...
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on May 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM
DOUG. 9
This post is lazy and uncreative, sort of like the proposal to raise sales and property taxes whenever there's a budget shortfall.
Posted by DOUG. http://www.dougsvotersguide.com on May 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM
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Dom
how much property tax do YOU pay in a year?

asshole.
Posted by taxpayer on May 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM
Jenny from the Block 11
Funny how you didn't look into what would be cut elsewhere to fund this property tax increase... Did you realize the councilmembers are using this ordinance to "punish" Dunn and Lambert by cutting other services for unincorporated King County (maintainence of roads, flood control, parks...)?
Posted by Jenny from the Block on May 25, 2010 at 4:47 PM
Will in Seattle 12
@11 - sounds fair to me. Cause Dunn and Lambert aren't funding the South Park Bridge and that got closed for repairs it was so unfunded ....

Payback's a bitch.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on May 25, 2010 at 5:03 PM
welcometothemurk22 13
They must continue to misspell. It's their only hope.
Posted by welcometothemurk22 on May 25, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 14

Oh, yeah, those "Tea Partiers" are up in arms...saving a few million here...a few million there.

But what about that tunnel and bridge?

Not much noise there from coffee or tea members...

Vote

Pillory 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh2y2TqAL…

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://yrihf.com on May 25, 2010 at 6:33 PM
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I hate the KC sheriff dept. I would encourage whatever cuts we can make there. They do nothing for anyone in the cities. Why should I have to pay for police services twice? Once for Seattle and once for unincorp KC? (and perhaps a third time for metro security)
Posted by SeattleSeven on May 25, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Rotten666 16
That's some cracker-jack reporting there. Regurgitate the PI, add a dash of hysterical rhetoric, throw in a bit of partisan name calling, call it a day. But then, when has there been a tax increase that you shits haven't supported? The simple fact is that the council has refused to make any good faith budget cuts; instead they are again putting the entire burden of mismanagement on the taxpayer.

So according to the Stranger I'm a teabagger. What a fucking world.

Posted by Rotten666 on May 25, 2010 at 8:15 PM
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Just what is a "good faith" budget cut? Name one.
Posted by sarah68 on May 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM
Quincy 18
Time to save $$$ by cutting the council to seven members and have them elected county-wide. Who's in?
Posted by Quincy on May 25, 2010 at 10:06 PM
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Dom,

HOW MUCH FUCKING PROPERTY TAX DO YOU PAY ?

ASSHOLE
Posted by Raising Taxes is not a "solution". ASSHOLE on May 26, 2010 at 6:09 AM
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It will be interesting to see what the list of "no-response" offences includes for the KC Sherrif department now. Last time they cut budgets it was NO response for property crimes (theft or vandalism) under $10k and any other non-violent offence.

As for the "paying twice" argument, do some research, dummy. Seattle Police patrol and respond in your neighborhood if you live in Seattle, Sherrif's dept in Unincorporated KC, and they back each other up (because they're completely understaffed already). I appreciate that the closest available officer will come to my aid when needed and that I don't have to wait for one of the 5 officers who patrol all of West Seattle, Delridge, and South Park at once to have time. That green Sherrif car is welcome anytime I call 911.
Posted by sammielu on May 26, 2010 at 7:52 AM
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Jesus H. Christ this is a lazy post. It's the unions. They refuse to even discuss adjusting their fatty pay raises they get every stinking year, even in the midst of the worst recession in 80 years or so. But ya. it's easier to blame the former R's whom you call "Tea-Baggers." Ever seen any of these four at a teabagger rally? have they ever mentioned anything about supporting the movement?

Oh, and that's not to fucking mention the R's put out a press release detailing EXACTLY HOW THEY WOULD FUND THE KCSO and COURTS with a tax neutral bill. They would pull funds off of non-priority property taxes, you know, the KCD, AFIS and parks expansion levy (Really??? we have dedicated funds to expand parks, but not fund the Sheriff and Courts?? WTF is a priority in this county?) to CJ services. all without raising taxes. How's that for a solution? Oh. I forgot. It's easier just to say we'll reduce critical services if you don't vote for more taxes. The sky is falling, blah blah blah.

Hack.
Posted by you are a hack on May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM
Rotten666 22
@17
Good faith as in the county is willing to trim more of the budget before they come begging for even more money from the taxpayers. Here is the budget...
http://www.kingcounty.gov/operations/Bud…

Items marked in red are reduced or cut...tell me you can't find more fat to trim. Here's one: I think the Kokanee and Steelhead Salmon Study ($65,000) can wait a year or two. That took me about 10 seconds.

People are drowning out there and the city/county/state can't wait to increase taxes. And don't get me started on the state income tax.
Posted by Rotten666 on May 26, 2010 at 8:27 AM
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Wow. Just wow.

Let's run down the list:

Starting off your post saying you didn't have time to "dig into details?" (Read: do any research) Check.

Name calling? Check.

Cutting and pasting a large chunk of your posting from another source? Check.

Being completely incorrect about a critical complaint in your post? (The R's DID present an alternate solution) Check.

Congratulations. This is officially the laziest post of the day.

*Slow Golf Clap*
Posted by wearealldumbernowfromhavingreadthis on May 26, 2010 at 8:34 AM
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"I don't have time to do actual reporting on this, but I have enough time to crank out a knee-jerk opinion based on nothing but my own predictable if-you-oppose-any-tax-increase-you're-a-teabagger BS.

Posted by bigyaz on May 26, 2010 at 9:52 AM
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The County should not be cutting first line police / court / jail staffing or the criminals will have a field day, definitely in unincorporated King County that is slated to be hit the hardest.

Parks, roads, fish studies, cost over-runs on the sewer project etc. and more should be cut or axed before people's safety is put at risk. It does sound like the County Council needs to cut a couple Council reps and some of their staff. I'd also say a number of management positions at the Sheriff's office need to be cut or reduced back to patrol - in these tough times having a manger sitting behind a desk supervising a few employees isn't what we need. Reduce the managers (serg. captains, majors etc.) and you will save salaries, they make over $100,000 so 10 would save over 1 million dollars!! Those funds could be used for patrol officers or detectives..
Posted by noname4me on July 2, 2010 at 3:09 PM

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