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Homo / News Constance McMillen Update: On, Off, On, Off, On!
Posted by Dan Savage on Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:21 AM
BUT!
The prom that was on, then off, then on, then off... is on again.
The Itawamba Agricultural High School’s parent-sponsored prom is back on, and it will now be held at the Fulton Country Club, the club’s manager said... It had originally been set for the Tupelo Furniture Market but was canceled Monday night, multiple parents confirmed. Parents would not confirm for the Daily Journal or Itawamba County Times why the event was first cancelled. Lori Byrd, who served on the parent organizing committee that planned the canceled event, told The Clarion-Ledger newspaper it was called off because, "there are a lot of people involved and they don’t want to get sued."
Imagine how much less distracted everyone in Fulton would be if the school had simply allowed Constance to attend prom with her girlfriend in the first place—no lawsuits, no Facebook pages, no angry emails, no legal liability, no New York Times editorials, no Ellen.
Stupid bigots.
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Well all y'all is welcome over here in Yoknapatawpha County come on down y'all, we don't care a-tall iffen the girls are a smoochin' with each other that's right neighborly like!
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Hopefully Constance's stand will make a whole lot more schools think before discriminating, "we don't want to get sued". Go Constance, Go!
And Thanks Dan, for focusing Slog eyes on this amazing story.
And Thanks Dan, for focusing Slog eyes on this amazing story.
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Are they afraid the gay is going to rub off on the other kids or something? Really, it would have been better for everybody if they had just let her take her girl to the prom.
I really believe they were just scared two guys would want to come. You know how it is down south. Two girls kissing is hot! Two guys? That is just wrong!
I really believe they were just scared two guys would want to come. You know how it is down south. Two girls kissing is hot! Two guys? That is just wrong!
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It's incredible how people will so stubbornly continue to do the wrong thing, even when it is so obviously hurting them as well as the target of their bigotry.
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Imagine how much less of a community they would have by now if they had cave in to outside lobby groups who hate ( "Stupid bigots." ) their culture and spiritual beliefs.
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The prom could be a great GOP fundraising opportunity. Micheal Steele & his pals would pay thousands to see two girls dancing together.
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I hope Constance takes her Posse with her to keep safe on Friday night.
At this point, I wouldn't put it past someone to try to make her night miserable. Jerks.
At this point, I wouldn't put it past someone to try to make her night miserable. Jerks.
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It's incredible how people will so stubbornly continue to do the wrong thing, even when it is so obviously hurting them.
Like, how is it that homosexual men still account for 63% of all new AIDS cases in America?
Like, how is it that homosexual men still account for 63% of all new AIDS cases in America?
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@7 bigotry is neither cultural or spiritual. it's bigotry, it's already its own thing and it's inherently reactionary. kinda like your opinions. calling bigotry and those that continue to engage in bigotry stupid isn't hate, sweatheart, it's calling it like it is. you want stupidity and irrationality to be treated with kit gloves? tough shit.
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LC, thanks for telling us that Christianity is all about ostracizing people, shaming them until they commit suicide, or just beating them to death. It's not like I needed the information, but it's nice to hear you admit that your religion is depraved and that you worship an evil god.
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@7 Yes, there was a lot of that sort of talk when "outside lobby groups" were trying to end segregation and Jim Crow laws too.
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This "controversy" is the only thing that would make any prom memorable. Proms suck. High School sucks. Ones life doesn't begin until one leaves high school.
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@ 9 & 14...the movie 'carrie' keeps popping in my head when i think about this..i hope that nothing goes wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me much if something did.
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Christianity is all about slavery too! Maybe we should bring it back because it's the Bible way! Let's start with LC- although I'm sure a negative old sour-puss like LC wouldn't fetch too much on the slave block...
P.S. Shellfish are an abomination! Lev. 11:10
P.S. Shellfish are an abomination! Lev. 11:10
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@12 Please before slandering a whole community, a whole town, provide the date and news source that shows that Constance was the victim of violence. The school has a dress code ( as all schools should have ) and behavioral rules ( as all schools need to have . ) Having rules and expecting the students to abide by them while on school grounds does not constitute violence.
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We've already dealt with the "dresscode" and "rules" issues. As several of us said, the court found that those rules were violations of McMillen's First Amendment rights. There's nothing further to argue on the matter.
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@18: As if that matters to you. You can provide only one questionable and practically-unsourced "violent" act when you say that Anti-Prop 8/Pro-Family/Pro-Equality activists are violent against Prop 8 supporters, but we're required to provide you with citations of the violence visited repeatedly upon the gay community?
Homo, please.
Homo, please.
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@7 - What church do you belong to that preaches this kind of hate for other people? I was always taught that "God is love".
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Likewise the state cannot overlook the obvious dangers of promiscuity, drug abuse, pedophilia, etc.. that are generally prevalent withing the homosexual lifestyle and all it embraces.-Loveschild, February 11th, 2010*
If you're going to complain about someone slandering a "community", you should try not to be guilty of doing the same thing yourself, Loveschild.
*Source: http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives…
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@18 the ACLU website breaks down exactly why what the school did is illegal based on law and rulings over. Look it up.
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@18 hey Loves, er I mean hateschild...
The bible wants you to shut the FU@K up!
"Suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
-Paul (I Tim 2:12)
The bible wants you to shut the FU@K up!
"Suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
-Paul (I Tim 2:12)
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@ # 18
Hey Loves, er, I mean Hateschild...
The bible want you to shut the @#$% up!
"suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
(I Tim 2:12)
Hey Loves, er, I mean Hateschild...
The bible want you to shut the @#$% up!
"suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
(I Tim 2:12)
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@18 Actually no, I'll just tell you because it's interesting. Schools and workplaces have the right to require a dress code, but that dress code cannot be gender based as that is sex discrimination. No one can discriminate or require you to fit their expectations of masculinity or femininity, that infringes on your freedom of speech. Behavior rules cannot infringe on your rights. Constance's school can not require her to dress as a "girl" or not go with a same sex partner because their religious views do not trump her rights.
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Dan, callling bigots "stupid" is as redundant as calling Loveschild "bat-shit crazy stupid fucking cunt".
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Hey Loveschild, if you want to live in a country that values spiritual beliefs over individual rights, I've got the perfect place for you!
Lovely Saudi Arabia! I bet you'd love covering every part of yourself but your eyes when you leave the house, never being able to go out in public without a male relative as an escort, not being allowed to drive, and being stoned to death if you're caught in the company of a man who's not related to you! Not to mention that you'll never be taken seriously or given a fair trial - because you're a woman!
You see, the Koran doesn't value women very much. But the Muslims in Saudi Arabia are very serious about the fact that they live in a Muslim state, so they don't see their treatment of women as being repressive, because that's what the Koran tells them to do.
But since you think a community's spiritual beliefs should be allowed to violate a person's rights, it sounds to me like you're in the wrong country.
Lovely Saudi Arabia! I bet you'd love covering every part of yourself but your eyes when you leave the house, never being able to go out in public without a male relative as an escort, not being allowed to drive, and being stoned to death if you're caught in the company of a man who's not related to you! Not to mention that you'll never be taken seriously or given a fair trial - because you're a woman!
You see, the Koran doesn't value women very much. But the Muslims in Saudi Arabia are very serious about the fact that they live in a Muslim state, so they don't see their treatment of women as being repressive, because that's what the Koran tells them to do.
But since you think a community's spiritual beliefs should be allowed to violate a person's rights, it sounds to me like you're in the wrong country.
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#18 damn it LC...what the fuck is so hard about addressing things on a reality based plain of existence? #12 was referring to the generally applied spirit of your previous comment, ie, equating groundless hate and stupidity with culture, they weren't making an argument about any one act of violence acted against constance mcmillen. i know you can read, what is the problem?
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@32:
I'll chip in $20 toward buying LC (or whichever one of him/her/they/it wants to take us up on this once-in-a-lifetime-offer) a one-way ticket to Riyadh!
I'll chip in $20 toward buying LC (or whichever one of him/her/they/it wants to take us up on this once-in-a-lifetime-offer) a one-way ticket to Riyadh!
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@32: I was just thinking how much LC's whining reminded me of my time in the Middle East!
They have all kinds of laws to prevent the poor people from seeing anything that might offend their culture or spiritual beliefs. Neither LC or Constance could dance with their partners in public without being arrested.
They have all kinds of laws to prevent the poor people from seeing anything that might offend their culture or spiritual beliefs. Neither LC or Constance could dance with their partners in public without being arrested.
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