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Savage Love SL Letter of the Day: Doggy Style
Posted by Dan Savage on Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:26 PM
I read your column about non-acting pedophiles and it made me wonder about your thoughts on other controversial sex acts. Let's say, hypothetically, that I or someone I know is hella into bestiality. Let's also say, hypothetically, that I or someone I know never acted upon this desire to sexually molest a dog. Let us also say that I or someone I know got their own apartment and adopted a dog and happened to accidentally—seriously: accidentally—adopt what might be the only lesbian zoophiliac dog in the world. Let's tack on there that this hypothetical person was masturbating one day, sans sheets, and the dog jumped right up there and dove in like it was Thanksgiving Dinner, giving our hypothetical friend a small heart attack and a large orgasm.Was it evil? Is it rape if your dog rams her head against your legs in an attempt to get at your vagina? Is there something wrong with the dog or are some dogs just into that shit? Should this person just renew their faith in a loving higher power that they should receive a dog that likes the flavor of vaginas?
Bestiality Isn't This Crazy Hypothetical
My response after my jump.
I can't leave my underwear on the floor because this dog that lives in my house—it's not my dog—will lick and chew his way through the crotch, destroying my underwear in the process. (I remember when I discovered this lovely trait: a freezing cold January morning, and I pull on the pair of underwear I'd left sitting on the floor the night before. Oh, there's nothing like a crotch full of freezing cold dog slobber to get your heart pumping first thing in the morning. Who needs coffee?)
Which is to say, BITCH, a dog will eat pretty much anything—its own puke, my dirty underwear, your hypothetical friend's ostensible pussy—if said anything is left where the dog can get at it.
Color me unconvinced, BITCH. I'm not convinced that you/your hypothetical friend are/is the luckiest pet owner in the whole history of dog adoptions by secret zoophiles. I'm not convinced that coincidence alone accounts for you/your friend "lucking into" a dog that likes the flavor of vaginas. The dog may well have jumped up on the bed and initiated oral by jamming its nose into your/your friend's crotch. But dogs are always jamming their noses into crotches, BITCH, as absolutely everyone on Earth damn well knows, and dogs will eat pretty much anything, as my chewed up underwear damn well demonstrates. So when you/your friend began "masturbating one day, sans sheets," legs no doubt spread wide in front of the new dog, BITCH, you/she knew that many/most dogs would consider that an invitation to dive in like it was Thanksgiving dinner.
Was it evil?
Man, I hate that question. We eat animals every day without their consent—I'm enjoying the earthly remains of a dearly departed chicken right now myself—so it seems just a tad... I don't know... hypocritical... to insist that it's wrong to let animals eat us because they can't consent. But I don't think people should sex up animals generally, BITCH, and if people are sexing up animals I don't want to hear about it particularly. You/your friend aren't/isn't doing anyone any real harm, and what other people don't know about your/her relationship with your/her dog... well... it's not going to kill 'em.
It could wind up killing the dog though: dogs that are sexually aggressive, or have been sexually abused, are very hard to place in new homes. Could be an issue if you/your friend dies before the dog, or if the dog has be placed in a new home for whatever reason.
And, of course, ick.
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If a non-consenting child poked around a pedophile's crotch would that pedophile consider himself lucky? Maybe. But he would still be the responsible party in any ensuing actions. Stick to humans. They sell doggie masks, whole-head-leather masks, any kind of anything you could want to further the fantasy.
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I have a female dog that would totally do this if I gave her half a chance ... SO I DON'T. This dog also enjoys eating shit: her own, my other dog's, my cats' ... it's as much as I can do to allow her to lick my face sometimes. She's not getting anywhere near my vag. ICK.
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You're right, Dan, about dogs and crotches. I'm a guy, and my two dear lesbian friends have a Golden Retriever, and I swear to God, every time I drop over to see them the dog immediately plants his nose in my crotch. Every single time.
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No "goldstar" zoophiles ? No empathy for those who might be dealing with bestiality ?
Some compassion ( "what other people don't know......luke/warm" ) for pets, children .......
Some compassion ( "what other people don't know......luke/warm" ) for pets, children .......
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oh, come on, you bunch of squares. plenty of the stuff dan talks to people about is icky, and no, i don't want to think about it, but this woman is hurting no one. she bears the most risk upon herself, since dogs' mouths are cesspools and the vagina is a delicate flower prone to infection. so long as she's happy taking the risk, and the pooch is in there VOLUNTARILY (shut up, there is a big difference between a dog diving in and a dog who doesn't want to do something - just try getting one into a cage in a vet's office, as i have)... enjoy, BITCH.
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Go for it. You are both having a good time. This is fucking religious bullshit seeping into peoples enjoyment. Animals enjoy sex. Even more than people do. And people have enjoyed sex with animals for many thousands of years.
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Personally, I don't see why they can't be satisfied with sheep like men were back when they had multiple wives and teen-aged concubines ... like the Bible says.
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I'm skeeved out to no end... and no, I'm not ashamed of that fact. People have a right to consensual sexual contact, but as always, a dog does not have the mental capacity to consent. Even if an enthusiastic face in the crotch would hint otherwise.
As a elementary school aged child, I had an borderline sexual infatuation with my adult babysitter- obviously if he had obliged me, I would have happily participated in sexual contact. I would have been consenting, but without the mental capacity pf an adult to fully grasp all that that entails, it could have seriously messed me up. So looking back, I'm glad he wasn't a pedophile.
As a elementary school aged child, I had an borderline sexual infatuation with my adult babysitter- obviously if he had obliged me, I would have happily participated in sexual contact. I would have been consenting, but without the mental capacity pf an adult to fully grasp all that that entails, it could have seriously messed me up. So looking back, I'm glad he wasn't a pedophile.
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Allow me to translate BITCH's letter for you:
HAY YOU SYMPATHIZED WITH PEDOPHILES WHO DON'T WANNA FUCK CHILDREN SO WILL YOU GIVE ME PERMISSION TO FUCK MY DOG KTHXBYE.
The point of Dan's column on non-acting pedophiles was that it's NOT OKAY to fuck children, and those who have the urge but don't follow through are to be commended. I don't see how you can twist that into potential permission for engaging in bestiality.
HAY YOU SYMPATHIZED WITH PEDOPHILES WHO DON'T WANNA FUCK CHILDREN SO WILL YOU GIVE ME PERMISSION TO FUCK MY DOG KTHXBYE.
The point of Dan's column on non-acting pedophiles was that it's NOT OKAY to fuck children, and those who have the urge but don't follow through are to be commended. I don't see how you can twist that into potential permission for engaging in bestiality.
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ew. I don't care that dogs' mouths are supposedly cleaner than ours, just no. And on a side note, I could have gone without hearing that Dan sometimes puts on dirty underwear in the morning. Is this a guy thing?
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Louis CK has a bit that makes pretty much the same point you do, Dan. This hypothetical woman's hypothetical friend made the dog an offer he couldn't refuse, and now her hypothetical vagina probably has some pretty nasty shit in it, possibly literally considering the places dogs are known to stick their snouts. Yeesh.
However, I do take issue with the idea that consuming the flesh of an animal for sustenance is anything remotely similar to letting a dog have a go at your junk. That was a very strange point to make.
However, I do take issue with the idea that consuming the flesh of an animal for sustenance is anything remotely similar to letting a dog have a go at your junk. That was a very strange point to make.
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@19
How do you know? Did the dogs elect you as their ambassador to the human race?
Maybe you hang out with really lame dogs. My dog regularly demonstrates her consent and dissent, though I've no plans to bring up this particular subject with her. Ick.
How do you know? Did the dogs elect you as their ambassador to the human race?
Maybe you hang out with really lame dogs. My dog regularly demonstrates her consent and dissent, though I've no plans to bring up this particular subject with her. Ick.
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@19 - Pigs are not capable of consenting to be made into bacon, either. And it's not as if the dog is going to recover repressed memories when it gets older and realize that it was abused. I'm not in favor of dogs performing cunnilingus (that's just gross). But in general, I think talking about whether an animal can or cannot consent as a means of comparing its condition to a human is meaningless since I think an animal is also incapable of living to regret its actions.
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I put on my dirty underwear in the morning if I'm stepping out of the bedroom before I shower. Clean body, then put on clean underwear.
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There is no way anyone could claim a person raped a dog if the dog, of its own volition, dove into the person's vagina snout-first. So I don't really think BITCH wrote in to ask that, but instead wrote to confirm to herself that what she considers a minor miracle actually happened instead of just being a vivid dream. While this was a very amusing letter/response, I hope this doesn't give others the idea to somehow prompt their pets to engage in sexual activities the pets may be less enthusiastic about.
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Accident my ass!
I won't weigh in on the ethics of dog-fucking, but I have to say this dog's behavior isn't uncommon at all. If any woman spreads herself on a bed, in open view of a dog, and starts jacking herself, half the dogs on the planet would probably dive in.
This isn't a curious anomaly. This is an open invitation. This isn't a bizarre accident. BITCH wanted it.
I won't weigh in on the ethics of dog-fucking, but I have to say this dog's behavior isn't uncommon at all. If any woman spreads herself on a bed, in open view of a dog, and starts jacking herself, half the dogs on the planet would probably dive in.
This isn't a curious anomaly. This is an open invitation. This isn't a bizarre accident. BITCH wanted it.
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@ 20
"However, I do take issue with the idea that consuming the flesh of an animal for sustenance is anything remotely similar to letting a dog have a go at your junk. That was a very strange point to make."
It is not that strange. We don't really have to eat animals, there are some good nutrients in their flesh but we can get them from other sources too. So both sex and nutrients are something we can get from non-animal sources, but we may choose to get them from animals if we like it better that way.
"However, I do take issue with the idea that consuming the flesh of an animal for sustenance is anything remotely similar to letting a dog have a go at your junk. That was a very strange point to make."
It is not that strange. We don't really have to eat animals, there are some good nutrients in their flesh but we can get them from other sources too. So both sex and nutrients are something we can get from non-animal sources, but we may choose to get them from animals if we like it better that way.
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I'm kinda wondering why this hypothetical person would have thought it was a good idea to adopt a dog.
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@18 The surprising thing is not that guys some times put on dirty underwear, the surprising thing is that gay guys do it too. I thought gay guys were supposed to be a little more fastidious than that.
But as far as dirty underwear goes, I have heard horror stories about how long women go without washing their bras. No non-mentally ill man wears anything as long without washing it as some supposedly normal women go without washing their bras.
(I personally only put on dirty underwear if I need to do something short before my shower. I want clean underwear to go with my clean body, so if I were to put on fresh underwear, that would only be with me for a short time before I tossed it into the dirty laundry and it seems wasteful to wear something for only thirty minutes and then have to wash it again.)
But as far as dirty underwear goes, I have heard horror stories about how long women go without washing their bras. No non-mentally ill man wears anything as long without washing it as some supposedly normal women go without washing their bras.
(I personally only put on dirty underwear if I need to do something short before my shower. I want clean underwear to go with my clean body, so if I were to put on fresh underwear, that would only be with me for a short time before I tossed it into the dirty laundry and it seems wasteful to wear something for only thirty minutes and then have to wash it again.)
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I think government should stay out of people's personal lives, and that goes for both zoophilia and taxes. What BITCH wants to do in her own private property is her own business. And also, it's kind of hot in a "it's so wrong it's so right" sort of way. Chicks can do anything and make it right.
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First, to say that animals can't consent is to say that animals can't live. Animals choose lots of things for themselves the whole time -- what they want to do now, which toy they want to play with, where to pee, etc. Anyone who thinks animals don't have agency and can't do things willingly is not uniformed about pets but actually batshit crazy.
If a dog can consent to eating from your plate, s/he can consent to licking your genitals. Either that, or then you think dogs are just robots (and in this case why not have real robots instead?...)
So that doesn't bother me. As for the 'ick' factor... Dan, really. There are people who say 'ick' to men having sex with men. I suppose everybody is entitled to his/her 'icks', and if some homophobe finds the idea of men having sex with men 'icky' and repulsive (remember that 'wiggling in excrement' senator?), well, it's his/her right to think so -- but what would YOU say to such a person, Dan? You're on record having said that all we do for sex looks ridiculous or icky if you think about it objectively. So does zoophilia.
Frankly, Dan, zoophilia is like any other fetish: you can do it responsively (abide by the campsite rule: always leave your pet better than you found it!) and you can do it safely (think about the health problems involved and solve them!). Aside from that, it's not any worse than oral sex.
Frankly!
If a dog can consent to eating from your plate, s/he can consent to licking your genitals. Either that, or then you think dogs are just robots (and in this case why not have real robots instead?...)
So that doesn't bother me. As for the 'ick' factor... Dan, really. There are people who say 'ick' to men having sex with men. I suppose everybody is entitled to his/her 'icks', and if some homophobe finds the idea of men having sex with men 'icky' and repulsive (remember that 'wiggling in excrement' senator?), well, it's his/her right to think so -- but what would YOU say to such a person, Dan? You're on record having said that all we do for sex looks ridiculous or icky if you think about it objectively. So does zoophilia.
Frankly, Dan, zoophilia is like any other fetish: you can do it responsively (abide by the campsite rule: always leave your pet better than you found it!) and you can do it safely (think about the health problems involved and solve them!). Aside from that, it's not any worse than oral sex.
Frankly!
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What's really unbelievable is that no fewer than 4 commenters wrote in this thread to support bestiality. Listen up, you demented pervs: It's sex. With. A. Dog. If cross-species sex doesn't automatically excite some Leviticus-style condemnation from you, you are some kind of malfunctioning organism.
That said, I wouldn't throw BITCH in jail or anything. I'm just calling a spade an abomination.
That said, I wouldn't throw BITCH in jail or anything. I'm just calling a spade an abomination.
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I remember hearing a similar-ish story on the podcast a while back, and it leaves me with just one question: Don't these people have doors? You know, doors to shut out said pets? I'm just sayin'...
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Every animal I can think of is naturally sexually violent. Even Giraffes!
So you can say that it's nobody else's business, and that she's taking the risks on herself, but since we live in a society, that's really not true. Her inevitable UTI will weaken her immune system and hurt our herd immunity, a sick person gets all sorts of misc. bugs that can get other people sick. Tell the emergency responders on the scene of a naked dog mauling that she took on these risks herself and didn't harm anyone.
So you can say that it's nobody else's business, and that she's taking the risks on herself, but since we live in a society, that's really not true. Her inevitable UTI will weaken her immune system and hurt our herd immunity, a sick person gets all sorts of misc. bugs that can get other people sick. Tell the emergency responders on the scene of a naked dog mauling that she took on these risks herself and didn't harm anyone.
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For all the pedophile analogies...
While consent is, obviously, extremely important (and dogs and children do have some degree of consent to give), I think the real lynchpin difference is that children grow up and have to deal with whatever shit they experienced in their childhood. A dog is not going to grow up to be traumatized, feel dirty and shameful and worthless, by it's willing participation in crotch licking.
While consent is, obviously, extremely important (and dogs and children do have some degree of consent to give), I think the real lynchpin difference is that children grow up and have to deal with whatever shit they experienced in their childhood. A dog is not going to grow up to be traumatized, feel dirty and shameful and worthless, by it's willing participation in crotch licking.
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She would only be a "gold star zoophile" if she had resisted the urge to adopt a dog at all, and now knowing the dog is willing to march down the ho-chi-minh trail, if she were to take steps to keep the dog from doing it. NO STICKER FOR YOU!
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Heterosexual sex is how our species reproduces.
It is 'normal' for us.
All other sexual "orientations" and behaviors are abnormal; and "ick"able.
And carry negative consequences.
However grading degrees of (im)morality for abnormal desires and behaviors is highly subjective.
Some find any sexual behavior other than heterosexual within marriage immoral.
Then there is NMBLA.
Dan mocks Senator 'wiggling in excrement' but also mocks bisexuals and our letter writer.
If 'morality' and "ick" judgements are set aside and behaviors are judged from the standpoint of public health and prudent epidemiological practice the best social policy will result.
And, btw, interspecies sexual behavior is massively unwise and risky.
It is 'normal' for us.
All other sexual "orientations" and behaviors are abnormal; and "ick"able.
And carry negative consequences.
However grading degrees of (im)morality for abnormal desires and behaviors is highly subjective.
Some find any sexual behavior other than heterosexual within marriage immoral.
Then there is NMBLA.
Dan mocks Senator 'wiggling in excrement' but also mocks bisexuals and our letter writer.
If 'morality' and "ick" judgements are set aside and behaviors are judged from the standpoint of public health and prudent epidemiological practice the best social policy will result.
And, btw, interspecies sexual behavior is massively unwise and risky.
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Sounds like a working dog situation.
That's gross, but whatev works for you. I have 2 little dogs. They're retarded, barely understand English, and far too eager to please. If you're happy, it's probably making the dog happy; they are like that.
Just stop telling everyone about it, please.
That's gross, but whatev works for you. I have 2 little dogs. They're retarded, barely understand English, and far too eager to please. If you're happy, it's probably making the dog happy; they are like that.
Just stop telling everyone about it, please.
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@43: homosexual sex is not abnormal. we are animals too. look at our closest relatives, the bonobo's. they have plenty of homosexual sex in between all the heterosexual reproductive sex they have. it is for the community bonds. its the same reason why animals will sometimes raise the young of a relative. for the community. sometimes doing something for the good of the community is key to survival. relationships and bonds are important for all societies. also, sex is used to diffuse anger and settle arguments in bonobo's. there is no "ick" factor in things that create community ties.
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A dog's mouth is far cleaner than a person's. Our mouths are FILTHY. Ask your friendly neighborhood health practitioner about the differences in people bites and animal bites; want to guess which one is going to give you horrible infections?
The only harm I can see is if the dog begins trying to mimic the same activity with others.
@38 I'm not sure why cross-species sex is supposed to arouse some instinctive obscenity response in me, but I guess that makes me abomination. Shrug. I find myself far more squicked out by other activities; dog in vag licking is pretty low on my gross-shit-o-meter.
The only harm I can see is if the dog begins trying to mimic the same activity with others.
@38 I'm not sure why cross-species sex is supposed to arouse some instinctive obscenity response in me, but I guess that makes me abomination. Shrug. I find myself far more squicked out by other activities; dog in vag licking is pretty low on my gross-shit-o-meter.
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The point that really sticks out in my mind is that dogs don't inherently know right from wrong. They're very instintial, which isn't necessarily good or giving consent. If we didn't train dogs, they would eat their own shit, piss indoors, chew furniture and bite small children if they come too close. As pet owners, it's your job to train it and not let the damned thing pee on your fancy rug, eat chicken bones off your plate and go around humping strangers legs. Therefore it's also your job not let it eat your pussy. Put the peanut butter back in the cupboard.
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Our relatives the mammals also eat their young, rape, have sex with siblings/parents/offspring and eat their own poop.
Aim a little higher....
Our relatives the mammals also eat their young, rape, have sex with siblings/parents/offspring and eat their own poop.
Aim a little higher....
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@38 ftw. I can't believe people are arguing that animals are capable of giving consent. For all intents and purposes, animals are no different than children when it comes to the concept of consent. Neither will consider the outcome of their actions.
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@49 But that's just it; animals CAN consent. Try grabbing an animal in a way it doesn't consent to be grabbed. No, don't actually do it, but I think that should demonstrate the idea. Dogs (at least this one) are willing to lick snatch. Why is it a moral outrage to let them do so?
If anything it is less an issue of lack of consent and more of a potential problem were the owner to pass before the dog, leaving a crotch licking dog without a crotch to lick. Shrug.
If anything it is less an issue of lack of consent and more of a potential problem were the owner to pass before the dog, leaving a crotch licking dog without a crotch to lick. Shrug.
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Anyone who thinks a dog can't give (or withhold) consent must not have a dog. For fuck's sake, the problem with children giving consent is that they can psychologically but can't LEGALLY (for good reason). And as others have pointed out, consent is tainted when adult pedophiles have all the power/manipulation dynamics on their side, and are exploiting the child for their own selfish ends, with very high risk of extreme damage to the child.
But (aside from giving Dan and his readers the heebie-jeebies, and giving BITCH a nasty infection), where's the harm in this situation? The dog's not going to feel guilty, worthless or have its future sex life irrevocably screwed up. (Although,, ruining our pets' sex lives (via spaying/neutering) is standard responsible pet care, so...
In short, while I share in the skeeve factor, I'm having a hard time finding a principled objection to BITCH's happy accident.
But (aside from giving Dan and his readers the heebie-jeebies, and giving BITCH a nasty infection), where's the harm in this situation? The dog's not going to feel guilty, worthless or have its future sex life irrevocably screwed up. (Although,, ruining our pets' sex lives (via spaying/neutering) is standard responsible pet care, so...
In short, while I share in the skeeve factor, I'm having a hard time finding a principled objection to BITCH's happy accident.
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If you really think a dog is 'harmed' and would have 'traumas' because of licking someone's genitals... as if a dog, you know, knew (because of years of schooling and living in a sex-repressed society) that these things are 'bad' and that he will go to hell for doing them, etc. etc. etc.... then frankly I think you haven't thought a bit about the topic.
Please specify in any way why exactly a dog who licks a human's gentials willingly is going to suffer psychologically. What exactly are the bad consequences? How exactly is the dog going to suffer? Why exactly is he going to get 'angry' or 'start biting others' or 'have antisocial behaviors' or anything?
Seriously?
This is probably said by people who never had pets; people who would let their pets starve to death or would refuse giving them any affection; people who wouldn't walk their dogs, or who wouldn't wash their cats, or who wouldn't care about their health or needs. In other words, people who actually don't interact with animals at all.
Now, from the human perspective -- if you find it icky, don't do it. If you find gay sex icky, don't do it. If you find oral sex icky, don't do it. Hell, if you find missionary-style penetration icky, don't do it -- be celibate. Nobody is forcing you to do anything you don't want to. Why dictate to others what they should or shouldn't do? This lady is harming no one (the bit about 'potential diseases' is ridiculous -- this can be said about anyone who doesn't do proper hygiene with his/her pet, sex doesn't change the odds), she is not forcing anyone to do anything s/he doesn't want to... And you guys complain?
Really, don't you have something better to complain about -- like the crisis in the economy, or the difficulty in passing the health care bill?
More...
Please specify in any way why exactly a dog who licks a human's gentials willingly is going to suffer psychologically. What exactly are the bad consequences? How exactly is the dog going to suffer? Why exactly is he going to get 'angry' or 'start biting others' or 'have antisocial behaviors' or anything?
Seriously?
This is probably said by people who never had pets; people who would let their pets starve to death or would refuse giving them any affection; people who wouldn't walk their dogs, or who wouldn't wash their cats, or who wouldn't care about their health or needs. In other words, people who actually don't interact with animals at all.
Now, from the human perspective -- if you find it icky, don't do it. If you find gay sex icky, don't do it. If you find oral sex icky, don't do it. Hell, if you find missionary-style penetration icky, don't do it -- be celibate. Nobody is forcing you to do anything you don't want to. Why dictate to others what they should or shouldn't do? This lady is harming no one (the bit about 'potential diseases' is ridiculous -- this can be said about anyone who doesn't do proper hygiene with his/her pet, sex doesn't change the odds), she is not forcing anyone to do anything s/he doesn't want to... And you guys complain?
Really, don't you have something better to complain about -- like the crisis in the economy, or the difficulty in passing the health care bill?
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@ 36
I wonder if you got my point?
@53
If I tried to wash my cat, I would have no fingers to type another slog comment with.
I wonder if you got my point?
@53
If I tried to wash my cat, I would have no fingers to type another slog comment with.
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@53 - Dunno about harming the dog, but encouraging this sort of behavior will lead her to try to do it to any of your guests. I think that's probably pretty anti-social.
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@6
Have you tried eating shit?
Don't knock it if you haven't, bitch.
Humans must learn to emulate our enlightened mammal friends.
Gay penguins.
Homosexual bonobos.
Shit eating dogs.
Have you tried eating shit?
Don't knock it if you haven't, bitch.
Humans must learn to emulate our enlightened mammal friends.
Gay penguins.
Homosexual bonobos.
Shit eating dogs.
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@46
No, dog mouths are not clean. They are full of bacteria just like ours. I'm a vet tech, I clean doggie teeth as part of my job, and you would not BELIEVE how foul a lot of their mouths are (I'm talking rotting, oozing, bleeding nastiness), with the people never noticing anything (except bad breath, which they think is normal). I would never in a million freakin' years let a dog near my cooch on hygiene grounds alone, not to mention the "GAKK!" factor.
However. As a vegan animal rights activist with a philosophy degree (do you hate me yet?), I don't think there's anything wrong with letting a dog eat you out if they want to. They aren't children. They aren't going to grow up to have a different perspective on things than they already do. They will never tell somebody else about it and feel victimized upon hearing their reaction. They will never regret it. As long as your dog only does it with YOUR consent, ie, you train it to knock it off when you say no (so that it doesn't go bothering other people and developing dominance/aggression issues), I fail to see the problem.
Except it's gross, and I pity anybody who has to explain that particular vaginal infection to their doctor.
No, dog mouths are not clean. They are full of bacteria just like ours. I'm a vet tech, I clean doggie teeth as part of my job, and you would not BELIEVE how foul a lot of their mouths are (I'm talking rotting, oozing, bleeding nastiness), with the people never noticing anything (except bad breath, which they think is normal). I would never in a million freakin' years let a dog near my cooch on hygiene grounds alone, not to mention the "GAKK!" factor.
However. As a vegan animal rights activist with a philosophy degree (do you hate me yet?), I don't think there's anything wrong with letting a dog eat you out if they want to. They aren't children. They aren't going to grow up to have a different perspective on things than they already do. They will never tell somebody else about it and feel victimized upon hearing their reaction. They will never regret it. As long as your dog only does it with YOUR consent, ie, you train it to knock it off when you say no (so that it doesn't go bothering other people and developing dominance/aggression issues), I fail to see the problem.
Except it's gross, and I pity anybody who has to explain that particular vaginal infection to their doctor.
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