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Friday, March 5, 2010

Kiki Smith Talk: "I Have Nothing to Say"

Posted by on Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:00 AM

Kiki Smith, Hanging Woman
  • Kiki Smith, Hanging Woman
At a packed Kane Hall on Thursday night, the famous artist Kiki Smith said it herself: "I'm, like, a super-goofy person."

She was in the middle of an utterly extemporaneous talk on printmaking as her favorite art form, in large part because of its low status in the hierarchy of mediums. This talk on printmaking was happening despite the fact that she does not like to give talks: "I basically don't have any necessity to talk in my life. I just do it when I'm asked." And despite the fact that her new show at the Henry Art Gallery is not about printmaking, it is about Smith's relationship to photography (I Myself Have Seen It: Photography and Kiki Smith, organized by Liz Brown and opening tonight—Smith described the show in the talk as "slightly endless"). It might have been nice to hear about photography, but the discussion about printmaking was an intentional block, an intentional misbehavior by an artist who is always being accused of misbehaving and clearly now intends simply to play the part.

She was simultaneously flip and fuck-you-commanding, saying things like, "I just put these [slides] in randomly; I have nothing to say" and "Oh, those are, um, some sculptures" along with "I dismantle hierarchical notions of what is good subject matter and good materials...I embrace the thing at the bottom of the barrel because it's not culturally used up, so it has a lot of heat."

Smith, Rapture
  • Smith, Rapture
Girl is nobody's bitch, was the point. And plainly, Smith intends to occupy all positions at once, to claim herself as the actor and the director, the kook and the intellectual, the underdog and the reluctant princess (she is the daughter of minimalist/modernist sculptor Tony Smith). And maybe occupying all positions at once is her radical move, her feint against the inherent vulnerability of being not only a female artist who works with the figure and with animals but also who had to clear some space for herself in the art world outside the shadow of her father.

"I do have very clear agendas," she announced, addressing the criticism of her work that it's too eclectic and not pointed enough, since it ranges from prints of sleeping women with animals on top of them to crinkled papers representing seeping mammary glands to bronze sculptures of raging women crouched on the wall, ready to pounce and destroy. "I do not want to be owned by art history," she boomed. (Although, it really has to be mentioned, she speaks with the undeniable intonation of a leprechaun.)

The disorganization of Smith's talk felt genuine and pointed, but her I'm-just-one-of-you lines felt like affectation.

"You can tell me when to stop talking," she said repeatedly.

But nobody tells Kiki Smith when to stop talking. They, instead, line up for autographs. The line after this talk included a trio of barely pubescent boys who asked her to make a drawing on their papers: she responded with a sullen X.

I had mixed feelings. I resonated deeply with some of what she said, and I like some of her work very much. (The murderous bronze woman on the wall, Lilith, never fails to knock me over.) She is clearly wise with age, and at several points in the talk, you could tell she was directly addressing the younger female artists in the room (several of whom showed up later, refreshed and inspired, on Facebook). If a talk by Kiki Smith makes female artists keep working rather than giving up, then I'm all for a talk by Kiki Smith.

Smith, Lilith
  • Smith, Lilith
But there were also female artists in the audience who couldn't help but feel a little deflated. Because for all her bristling against the establishment (the overtly political and totally badass artists Nancy Spero and Leon Golub are her heroes, she said), Smith is not the best poster child for feminist struggle; the art world was her birthright.

Smith has made what she wanted to make. That included a lot of stuff thought to be "feminine": animals and girls and "spirits" on delicate papers, sewn into blankets, made out of glass or girly-crafty beads. (What a response to her father's Die.) Her materials have political implications.

"In the 70s, as feminists we said, 'I am not nature, I am not spirit, I am not unintellectual,' but we realized that not only was it in our best interests but in the best interests of the planet to align ourselves with nature and spirit, and we embraced that flip," she said. "That's the great thing about art. You can keep exploring different aspects of consciousness, and they don't have to hold for the entire rest of your life."

That seemed the wisest thing Smith left the artists in the audience with—the sense that your ideas are not weaker for being subject to change. What's lurking on the edges of what you're comfortable with, that won't go away but that doesn't seem to fit in?

All in all it was quite a night at the theater. And the show hasn't even opened yet.

 

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gettingtoknowyoubetter 1
Wow. Great writing, Jen.

I wasn't there last night, but from everyone's descriptions, I'm fairly certain I would have been inspired, confused and angry, and trying desperately to cling to the part of me that was inspired because that would have seemed like the way I was supposed to feel.

Art stars are strange creatures; yet they are still flawed and human.

Seeing Patti Smith at Benaroya last month, I was prepared for her to not live up to my expectations (which had amassed over 15 years). I was so incredibly relieved and moved to find that she far surpassed them. It was the rare experience of reality being better than the fantasy.

Posted by gettingtoknowyoubetter http://gettingtoknowyoubetter.wordpress.com/ on March 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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Why wouldn't one want to feel inspired? I was one of the people who was...and having mixed feelings going into it like, will it be worth it? Will I be disappointed? Because of her birthright is she credible enough? Is it fair (whatever that means)?

Could she have made a space away from her father if she wasn't good? Do we ever get to a place where we aren't impacted by our parents? Some artists talk about it and it might show up in their work, others don't. I think she stands on her own, and still feeling like a novice art historian...and I'll admit here, years ago I knew of Kiki's work before I knew of Tony's...(she writes sheepishly)

I was immensely struck by her discussion on making, using her hands and working. Of course she doesn't make each and every piece and her "collaborators" are often folks that she is telling what to make, and she admitted that. Perhaps it's because I used to be a print maker, that I found it refreshing to hear about the process, the integrity of the line, and other formal qualities of making.

Artist's talks can be such a hit or miss, this was a hit for me. I wasn't bored, sometimes visually it was difficult, the slides hard to see, but that was part of the entertainment at a certain point, and she shared good stories and bits of art maker wisdom that were wonderful to hear.

Great article Jen, so perceptive on many levels, and such keen writing, genuinely critical and discerning. And obviously "you have something to say," and say it well, plus I love the discourse that we then get to have following it!
Posted by eshafkind on March 6, 2010 at 11:35 AM
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retraction: in the last sentence I used a wrong word choice, what I meant instead of, "obviously" is really, "fortunately"...

is there a way to edit our comments?
Posted by eshafkind on March 6, 2010 at 1:11 PM
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this text is rather annoyingly colored by your own unstated resentments
Posted by rembrandt 3000 on March 20, 2010 at 8:48 AM
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strangei, +1
Waiting a great peach from an artist is not necessarry. They are not showmen.
Posted by JaneWright on November 23, 2010 at 2:54 PM
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Kiki may not be the best presenter, but I think her work speaks for her. I would like to see her branch out to portray other social inequities such as the government refinance mortgage bank bailout, the so-called "national" health plan and the continued wars abroad.
Posted by lacyredd on December 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM
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great works! kiki you have a gift in relaying your true self in all of your arts!
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