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Monday, February 22, 2010

"You are never going to do away with the worlds oldest profession. Washington should do like Nevada. Legalize it, tax it, and require prostitutes to be licensed and have periodic health checks."

Posted by on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Most people who comment on daily newspaper websites are are pretty darn conservative. Bear that in mind when you read the comments thread on this Seattle Times "Blotter" blog post about a prostitution bust in Mill Creek. A bunch of cops sat in a hotel room all day last Friday ordering up and busting escorts off Craigslist. Here's a representative sampling of the reactions of Seattle Times readers to news:

Was everybody who was busted of legal age? Then why are we wasting time, money and effort on this? Legalize it, tax it and get the police to work on VIOLENT CRIME! I could give a rat's @$$ if two adults are servicing each other.... or if one of them is being paid for it. Prohibition does not work.

Have they found the guys that broke into my house yet?

The Gov whats to raise our taxes but our public servants continue to waste millions of dollars on things like this!!!! The police are suppose to serve and protect....who were they protecting or serving??????

There were 63 unsolved homicides in Snohomish County as of October of last year. That's one unsolved homicide per 10,851 citizens. King County's 550 unsolved homicides equates to one unsolved homicide per 3,410 citizens.

Beats doing actual police work, I feel so much safer now.

Daily papers report on prostitution stings the same way they report on marijuana-grow-op busts: with the stupid fucking credulous hackery cranked all the way up. They never ask if all these expensive police stings and the arrests and prosecutions of escorts and johns actually accomplishes anything—they never question the efficacy of the what the authorities are doing with our money—and they never speak to anyone on the other side of the issue. The Blotter's write up of the busts in Mill Creek is just a quick and dirty and brief blog post, I realize, not an investigative report. But how many times have daily papers embedded reporters with vice squads and written long, glowing reports about all the damn fine police work that goes into busting a couple of dozen prostitutes and johns? Stories like, oh, this one?

When it comes to sex and drugs and vice squads and thrilling undercover stings, daily papers can be relied on to glorify police work without questioning its usefulness. And always without seeking the opinion of anyone willing to point out what a costly waste of time all of this is or—God forbid—without speaking to to anyone willing to advocate for the rights of sex workers. And certainly no one is ever allowed to make the case for legalizing prostitution. The police get a pat on the back and the paper insists that it's only reflecting "the values of the community," blah blah blah, because the "community" is assumed to be unanimously anti-sex, anti-lap-dance, anti-strip-club, anti-sex-worker, anti-johns, etc., etc., and mindlessly pro-law-enforcement. Their own commenters prove them wrong: their own readers recognize that prostitution—when it involves two consenting adults in private—is a victimless crime and that going after hookers and johns who aren't hanging out on street corners depressing anyone's property values is waste of scarce police resources.

But some people think prostitution stings—like those magical grow-op busts—really do make a difference:

Raids began last weekend and continued through the week.... The crackdown by Seattle and King County police and federal agents has put a huge hit on suspected organized prostitution. This was an effective operation. Those charged remain to be convicted, but a Seattle police official estimated the raids shut down 85 percent of Seattle escort services fronting for prostitution. Organized prostitution is tough to control. This cooperative effort serves notice that it may be equally tough to operate.

That's from a Seattle Times editorial published after a big prostitution sting in 1992. Needless to say, organized and disorganized prostitution continued to flourish in the Seattle area in the years and months between 1992's "shut down" of organized prostitution and last Friday's Craigslist busts in Mill Creek.

 

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Gitai 1
The mention of not catching a burglar should really sting. Seattle has a higher rate of property crime than the national average. In this city, cops are not there to find people who have burgled you. They're there so you can file a proper report to give to your insurance company. They will make no efforts at all to find the thief. You're better off just heading to the pawn shops to track down your stolen property yourself after everything is done. It's only if they're embarrassed by a rash of burglaries in one area that they might dedicate some resources to finding the punk teens getting their kicks from robbing the neighbors.
Posted by Gitai on February 22, 2010 at 4:01 PM
Will in Seattle 2
I didn't know we were doing away with hunting.

That's the world's oldest profession.

Well, that and gathering.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 22, 2010 at 4:11 PM
3
They used to say it was to clean up neighborhoods. But on-line prostitution doesn't bother any neighbors. It's really about full employment for cops.
Posted by Stop Telling Adults No on February 22, 2010 at 4:11 PM
persimmon 4
I don't see a count for how many pimps were sent to jail for this bust.
Posted by persimmon on February 22, 2010 at 4:12 PM
Enigma 5
Wow, that quote from '92 made me laugh quite heartily.
Really, 85% shut down of prostitution? Makes me wonder how very much sex for pay was going down before this crack-down if we're only having 15% sex for pay of the '92 numbers going on nowadays.
Posted by Enigma http://approvereferendum71.org/ on February 22, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Urgutha Forka 6
Selling is legal.
Fucking is legal.
Why isn't selling fucking legal?

Why is it illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away for free?

-George Carlin
Posted by Urgutha Forka on February 22, 2010 at 4:14 PM
burien top team 7
Preach Rev. Savage! Preach!
Posted by burien top team http://moodmovesmarkets.blogspot.com on February 22, 2010 at 4:22 PM
8
Why is it illegal to pay someone to have sex with you but legal to pay someone to have sex with you while filming it? All the pros out there just need to keep a digital camera handy. "Hey...we were just on our way to shoot Aurora's Biggest Amateur Butts 27!"
Posted by crystal meathead on February 22, 2010 at 4:27 PM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 9
But, but, but . . . Jeebus says you'll go to Hell if you do it!
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on February 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Sargon Bighorn 10
It's illegal because women are victims of powerful physical men. It's illegal because GOD says it's illegal. It's illegal because of "The Homosexual agenda." And it's illegal because women just need to be empowered. So stop with this foolishness of making what is the second oldest profession (selling people outright being the first) legal.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on February 22, 2010 at 4:42 PM
Will in Seattle 11
@10 - then why does He go on about how many "courtesans" and "handmaidens" we're supposed to sleep with, if he doesn't want us to do it?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 22, 2010 at 4:56 PM
12
I'm in favor of taxing it. Start brothels by the US-Canada border line, the Idaho-Wa border, and the WA-Oregon Border and it'll be good for the state economy as well as the other small businesses in those towns.
Posted by apres_moi on February 22, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Vampireseal 13
Well, maybe I'm mistaken here, but I thought part of the reason for some of the prostitution busts was due to slavery issues in Washington state.

I'm all for legal prostitution for willing women and men of age, but the ugly reality is that an unfortunate sizable number of them are sex slaves. If the busts here are for taking down slave rings, I'm all for it, but only if any actual real effort is made to get these women separated from their pimps and put back on their feet so they can do work they actually want to do, making and keeping their own cash. Legalize prostitution, ban slavery.
Posted by Vampireseal on February 22, 2010 at 7:44 PM
14
@Vampireseal They arrest the underage girls and call it a win, ignoring the pimps and johns of these under 18 victims. Yay?
Posted by Spike1382 on February 22, 2010 at 8:14 PM
TVDinner 15
13 & 14, you both just took the words out of my mouth.

Which actually sounds kinda dirty.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on February 22, 2010 at 8:52 PM
seandr 16
If it were put to the ballot, prostitution would be legal in King County.
Posted by seandr on February 22, 2010 at 10:37 PM
17
It's really about full employment for cops.

That, and occupational safety. When have you ever heard of a prostitute shooting back?
Posted by Furcifer on February 23, 2010 at 12:30 AM
Southern Gentleman 18
The comment about homicides especially stings because I remember a few years ago where I live the police started focusing intensely on people having sex in public places--not specifically on prostitution, just public lewdness--and the homicide rate went up. There was probably no connection, but I think it's fair to ask--as several of us did--why the police were so focused on one crime and not another.

Of course this is the same police force that, for a while, was busting strippers for engaging in sex acts by using guys they'd arrested as undercover informants. So the guys would get paid by the cops to have sex with strippers and get their sentences for the other crimes reduced. Real smart thinking on the part of the cops.
Posted by Southern Gentleman http://just-write.contentquake.com on February 23, 2010 at 5:27 AM
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@1
@18

I'm confused.
Which stings more, the homicides or burlars?
Posted by I have my Bactin ready..... on February 23, 2010 at 10:07 AM
20
WTF Washington?!

Legalize it already-

don't you realize we're

SKIPPING TO GOMMORAH?

besides, it seems a moot point- most Seattle women are so ugly they'd have to pas someone to fuck them...
Posted by ...and only if they wore two bags over their head on February 23, 2010 at 10:10 AM
21
20 rewind

- most Seattle women are so ugly they'd have to paY someone to fuck them...
Posted by nothing sucks the Zing out of your clever quip like a typo on February 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM
22
I think the idea of legalizing prostitution, taxing it, and requiring health checks and licenses is a good idea. So long as everything is consensual and no one's getting hurt (ex: no STD's or unwanted pregnancy), then there shouldn't be a problem. Obviously, making prostitution illegal doesn't do anything to stop it, so why not find a way to make it beneficial to the country's economy?
Posted by Anna from Orlando on February 23, 2010 at 3:15 PM
23
There is a simple solution that will work federally for stopping the police in their puritanical crusade: Make porn!

Making porn is legal and paying to make porn is also legal. Sex workers can simply carry a video camera and agree to sex for pay if they're allowed to film it. The John or Jane involved will be required to fill out 2257 paperwork unless they agree to destroy the tape after the sex for an additional fee. The total cost of this should only cover the markup of the additional materials (tape, 2257 paperwork, etc) unless the client is really into keeping the tape. If the client wants the tape, they're obviously going to have to pay more.

In this specific case, the cops have no right to shut down this kind of operation. It's absolutely legal for two adults to make a sex film together without any regulation. It's legal to destroy the tape after sex if that's what the two consenting adults want as the outcome of their filming.

You can do this entirely in the open. It's a slam dunk court case that will cost cops their job if they target sex workers.
Posted by anonymous (Use Tor!) on February 23, 2010 at 10:51 PM
venomlash 24
@21: Nothing sucks the Zing out of your clever quip like a total and complete absence of cleverness or wit, actually.
And people might be more likely to listen to you if you could spell "Gomorrah" correctly. My advice to you would be to stop digging.

@23: It's a nice little scheme. The trouble is, that would likely cause local governments to make new laws against porn, and then we'd probably see a rise in the rate of spontaneous combustion among male teenagers.
Posted by venomlash on February 24, 2010 at 7:04 PM

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