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Friday, January 29, 2010

SL Letter of the Day: My Lousy Advice

Posted by on Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:37 PM

"If she objects, HH, your mate can blame her for “making” him bisexual—or making him realize it—because he fell on your sword that first time because it was what she wanted."

In your latest column you ended with this advice. Perhaps it was just tiredness or a tight deadline, but that's uncool on so many levels. Firstly you propogate the myth that someone can "make" someone else bisexual, gay or (heaven forbid!) straight. Secondly you advocate someone leaving their partner with a mass of guilt by blaming them for their sexual preferences. Advising this sort of manipulative emotional blackmail just isn't cool. Relationships are complicated enough without adding a mass of guilt to the mix or playing blame games.

Bad columnist, no cookie for you!

Your Puzzled Unofficial Publicist

What can I say? They can't all be gems. I was kinda, sorta teasing as I spun out that elaborate and, to my mind, transparent stratagem. (I thought the suggested manipulation, if attempted, would be transparent to the girlfriend.) But... yeah... my advice to HH—particularly the last few lines—wasn't my best work. I'll forward your advice, and the advice that came in from others, to his email address. And I'll take a few more lumps after the jump.

Long time, first time, blah blah blah.

I'm having some trouble with your advice to Horny Homo, mostly because I am usually impressed by your ability to solve problems with an "honesty is the best policy" approach. I've even sided with you when you've told people to lie in the past (mostly about past indiscretions), because I believe that people (gay, bi, or straight) deserve the freedom to pursue sexual satisfaction as long as they are honest with whatever significant other might be in the picture. And that's where my problem with your advice kicks in. I just can't conceive that the appropriate time for this woman to learn of her boyfriend's bisexuality would be mid-coitus while she's at her most vulnerable. I particularly object to this line of thought: "If she objects, HH, your mate can blame her for “making” him bisexual—or making him realize it—because he fell on your sword that first time because it was what she wanted."

What happened to "GGG", Dan? I don't see this kind of manipulation falling into any of those categories.

Looking for Clarification

I'm usually with you 100% in your advice, Dan, and I give you much thanks for featuring both bi/ bi-curious folks and those into MMF this week. But I can't (ahem) get behind your advice to Horny Homo: the guy in the couple knows full well he's bi and he's being dishonest with his lady. He should just tell her and let her deal with it, without the immediate pressure of her having sex with a third. So many fewer men will admit their bisexuality than women, leading most straight people I know to think that bi men basically don't exist. His suddenly "discovering" his bisexuality may lead her to the all-too-common fear that he will also "discover" that he's really gay; if she knows he's been aware of his sexuality for some time, she'll probably be much more reassured. The whole tone of the letter suggests to me that he may go ahead with his male FWB (or another) behind her back if the threesome scenario doesn't happen, which is good for no one. Where's your usual admonition for the girlfriend to be GGG? Anyway, if she's not ok with it she should be; some of us (raises hand—and it's got nothing to do with sparkle vamps, ew) would love to have her man, there's no reason why he should have to be so cagey.

Kinsey Two

 

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seandr 1
It's a strong man who can admit his mistakes.
Posted by seandr on January 29, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 2
Yup, you're an idiot. How dare you be wrong one time out of a thousand. Because all the rest of us are perfect, dontcha know.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on January 29, 2010 at 3:55 PM
Will in Seattle 3
Of course we are.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM
4
Glad to see you reconsidered, and owned up to it. Though my guess is that if the writer of the letter bothers to read comments, he probably overdosed on contrary advice at about the 99th comment mark lol.
Posted by Lynx on January 29, 2010 at 4:12 PM
5
Glad to see you reconsidered, and owned up to it. Though my guess is that if the writer of the letter bothers to read comments, he probably overdosed on contrary advice at about the 99th comment mark lol.
Posted by Lynx on January 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM
6
Teasing? Transparent? You didn't mean it? So you suggested advice you thought wouldn't work instead of telling that guy that you don't have advice for him? I knew you would backpedal one way or another, but come up with something better please!
Posted by oh, and sorry if this was just your saving face strategy on January 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM
Jaymz 7
Yes, I DO feel better now. I was tempted to chime in about that idiot advice but saw many well phrased responses already and remained silent. Thanks for bending over and taking it on this one. Don't you feel better, too?
Posted by Jaymz on January 29, 2010 at 4:25 PM
singing cynic 8
<3 Dan.
Posted by singing cynic on January 29, 2010 at 4:34 PM
gloomy gus 9
Wonderful post. Your teasing tone did come through to me quite clearly, but I suppose it's best to assume the average person seeking your advice is going to solemnly hang on every word of your reply. They may miss the spirit if you don't spell out every goddam thing.

That you take the trouble to do just that 999 times out of a thousand, all the while entertaining us onlookers, is so amazing - that you acknowledge the occasional fuckup helps us resist the urge to put you up on a pedestal, or worse yet a plinth.
Posted by gloomy gus on January 29, 2010 at 4:57 PM
balderdash 10
Yeah, I'm with @6! How DARE you admit a mistake? That's just BACKPEDALING! Covering your filthy TRACKS! You should have stuck to your guns and continued to be wrong like a MAN would, Dan. Only filthy LIBERALS ever admit their mistakes in the face of new data. REAL AMERICA is never wrong.

Okay, I can't do that any more without getting kind of queasy. Well corrected, and thanks for the update, Dan. I guess this is one that would have worked better on the podcast where your sarcasm could come through a little more clearly.
Posted by balderdash http://introverse.blogspot.com on January 29, 2010 at 5:28 PM
bigg 11
Well, I'LL forgive you... But just this once.
Posted by bigg http://biggblah.blogspot.com/ on January 29, 2010 at 5:37 PM
who cares what I call myself 12
I thought you were joking the first time....
Posted by who cares what I call myself on January 29, 2010 at 5:45 PM
TVDinner 13
I just figured you were stoned.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on January 29, 2010 at 6:47 PM
sirkowski 14
I think it was good advice. These critics are a bit... uh, anal?
Posted by sirkowski http://www.missdynamite.com on January 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Jennifer in Chicago 15
I've been the woman in this exact scenario, only I was sleeping with the gay-boy-curious-about-women way before the questioning guy asked if he could join us. And he did. And it was hands down some of the hottest sex I've ever had in my life. And we all learned something about ourselves and our sexuality. The gay boy learned he liked the occasional sex with a woman (as long as the woman was me, apparently), the questioning guy figured out that it was totally okay that he wasn't straight and that he should go forth and suck dick, and the bisexual girl (me) learned that having sex with two men I genuinely love, who genuinely love each other, is the greatest thing EVER. My only regret is that there wasn't another woman in the bed with us. Maybe next time. :D)
Posted by Jennifer in Chicago http://truthinessandbullshit.blogspot.com on January 30, 2010 at 12:04 AM
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@ 10, backpedaling is fine, dude, as long as it's done in an honest, apologetic manner. Dan's "well I didn't mean it, jeesh, why do people who ask me for advice always think I am serious about the things I suggest to them" is a little, well. Immature, for lack of a better word. Not to mention hard to believe.
Posted by when u backpedal, do it right! on January 30, 2010 at 5:29 AM
17
After giving thousands of straight answers, I can see the temptation break out once in a while. Glad things are OK.
Posted by knitpicker on January 30, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Trinabeana 18
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that advice was fucked up. It just seemed wrong to be telling someone to be so manipulative to their partner. Thanks for setting it straight, I knew that wasn't like you. Your advice is almost always brilliant (like, 99.999% of the time). This is the first time I've felt a little sick to my stomach after reading your advice. All better now, thanks.
Posted by Trinabeana http://www.facebook.com/trinabird on January 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM
lewlew 19
People. Learn to enjoy satire.
Posted by lewlew on January 30, 2010 at 12:53 PM
20
I thought it was funny, that it was intended to be funny seemed obvious. It's a sad commentary on sex education that a entertainment column on sex advice is such an important source of information that the columnist has no room for making jokes.
Posted by Fat on January 31, 2010 at 1:49 AM
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Dan, while you're in the mood to admit mistakes, how about your other one? You've been harshing on Obama like he was the worst thing to happen to homosexuals since Reagan, and now he's pushing even his military cabinet members to come out against Don't Ask Don't Tell. Will we be seeing you praising him as loudly as you were trashing him, when it gets repealed?
Posted by eternally on February 2, 2010 at 4:21 PM

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