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Thursday, January 28, 2010

International Mr. Leather vs. Leather Carpetbaggers

Posted by on Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM

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LA's Mike Gerle was International Mr. Leather in 2007—and, yeah, his last name is pronounced "girly," what of it?—and he's had it with the creeping goody-two-shoeing of the gay BDSM scene and "leather" guys who are more interested in winning titles and hosting fundraisers than they are in BDSM/leather/fetish sex. His message: if you're not interested in gay BDSM sex, what the hell are you doing in the gay BDSM scene? Gay kinksters will want to read it.

My leather world [is] being overrun by non-kinky people manipulating the powerful energy of the leather tribe into a vehicle for their own self-promotion. This has got to stop. If for no other reason, it is driving the kinky men I want to hook up with out of the few spaces we have left. This is cock-blocking on an enormous scale.... We congregate to meet and associate with people who play like we do. It’s pure and simple. That’s the point. Punkt aus! Unfortunately, this basic reason for gathering has been lost on a great many people—especially in the titleholder community.

You, with the microphone, please shut up so that I can do the dance Leathermen once did in these spaces. It can only happen when the environment is right, and your screeching is making it impossible. If you’ve forgotten, the dance is usually done very quietly while the music penetrates everything around us. It resonates in the gear two Leathermen wear. It starts when the gaze from under his Muir Cap catches your eyes from across the room, and that bolt of sexual energy blasts into you, through your chest, into your gut and down into your nuts. That’s the dance we’re here for, right? Your vision of children without toys has just obliterated the chance of that happening. Thank you, so much.

How did you end up here, anyway? And how can we get you to put down the microphone or at least sex it up and start doing the dance actual kinky guys do? Or how can we get you to leave?

My two cents: the combination of the Internet and the demise of the anti-leather/fetish bigotry that used to be so prevalent in the gay community—yes, in the gay community—have probably done more harm to the gay leather scene than all the Toys for Tots drives hosted in all the leather bars over the last 20 years. (Once upon a time, kids, gay guys who weren't into leather (or drag) didn't consort with, much less date, gay guys who were.) Today young and kinky guys don't have to sneak into leather bars and pray that their friends don't see them; they can post personal ads at sites like Recon and Gearfetish. (And they do, in droves.) And thanks to the general de-stigmatization of kinks generally, and thanks to concepts like, ahem, GGG, kinky gay guys don't have to date other kinky gay guys exclusively anymore. They're just as likely to seek out vanilla guys they find attractive and attempt to corrupt 'em.

Still, Toys for Tots drives and platitude-spouting leather-title-contest contestants are contributing to the general lameness of the gay leather scene across the country. In the best of all possible kinky worlds, gay BDSMers would be able to "hunt," as Mike puts it, in happening leather bars and online. But today most gay bars are so lame and/or snoozy that a kinky gay guy—whatever his age—doesn't have much incentive to make a second visit. Mike has thrown down the gauntlet and is probably catching hell for it. Meanwhile, in Minneapolis, one kinky gay kid disappointed in the leather scene is doing something about it.

 

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Dougsf 1
I can't speak to what is and isn't proper in the Leather community, but it sounds like he's witnessing a shift that every prolific subculture eventually succumbs too—they've adopted your fashion, but not your lifestyle. I'd give more examples of scenes I've seen go through something similar, but I'm afraid I'd use the term "paradigm shift", and no one wants that.
Posted by Dougsf on January 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM
elenchos 2
The sad part is that if he rides that Moto Guzzi to a biker rally the only action he'll find is lawyers and CPAs and other Rich Urban Bikers raising money for, you guessed it, Toys for Tots.
Posted by elenchos on January 28, 2010 at 1:46 PM
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It's not just the Internet (although that's a big part).

Kink was always a subset of the leather community. A lot of guys were drawn to it in the old days merely because it made a fetish of masculinity, unlike most of the rest of gay culture.

It attracted the people who liked the sex with the rough edges and the competitive edge. (Side note: one of my hottest memories was in a sleazy bar in Nashville that no longer exists...this hot muscle bear and I latched on to each other's nips and twisted until one of us said uncle while staring into each others eyes all the while. The connection was electric. I won.)

Yes, some people got into more serious kink, the fisting and the bondage and the real pain. But to my mind, the real point was the worship and celebration of masculinity.

What's up with the leather scene today? Well why don't we start with the fact that it's based on an aesthetic that dates from the fucking 1950s! Motorcycle chaps and leather vests and Harleys and the rest just screams of baby boomer nostalgia for James Dean and Marlon Brando. Sorry boomers, but your day is over. That guy on the highway riding a Harley is probably middle-aged accountant, not a hot biker or leather daddy.

Who are our masculine icons today? Well, there's been a general decline of them throughout the society. Uniforms are still sexy, but now that it's easier and easier to come out while you're a police officer (and hopefully soon in the military), why go for the ersatz fetish if you can find (or even better become) the real thing?

What's up with the bar scene? Mainstreaming of gay culture basically has taken all the edge out of being gay (and hence a lot of what was fun about being a fringe community).

Now we're all about being responsible citizens (hence the Toys for Tots drives) that deserve the marriage and the dog and the kids and the white picket fence. That's incompatible with the leather scene and the hot bars of yesteryear.

Our community is growing up and going mainstream. That's why the bars are lame and the fetishes are going back to the fringes. If the '70s and '80s were the equivalent of our college years, when we ran wild and partied all the time, the gay community as a whole is sailing into middle age, with the perks of membership in the community but also responsibilities.

Do I miss the way the old days were? Do I wish they'd come back? Sometimes, yeah. But I view this as exactly the process we're looking for when we demand marriage rights and responsibilities and our place in society. I don't get that kind of random, incredibly hot scene like I got in the bar in Nashville any more (much as I'd love it). But on the other hand, I get my partner's picture proudly displayed on my desk at work.
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Posted by Corydon on January 28, 2010 at 1:50 PM
meggers 4
Is the purpose of a fundraiser to raise as much money as possible, or provide an exclusive venue in which members of the hosting subgroup can meet up? Broadening the inclusion standards of a group helps the less-hardcore members feel welcome to participate in an event designed to support a worthy cause, and I would think the figureheads of such an event would best appeal to the larger group. Aren't there plenty of other venues/events for the "real" Leathermen hook up and play?

Totally an outsider here, but interested and trying to understand.
Posted by meggers on January 28, 2010 at 1:57 PM
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Incidentally, one other reason the bars are lame? Police enforcing the vice laws. Bars used to be a place to show off the kink and get people interested in the rougher side of life. Now flashing your ass in public will just as likely get the bar shut down. So it's harder for people to break into the leather community because the leather community's been pushed out of the public venues.

I read Fox's post about the Eagle. It's basically the best you can hope for if you're into the leather thing these days. " It was an incredible time for everyone just to be able to talk and have drinks and relax in our gear." Vomit. That's exactly the kind of "leather drag" that Gerle's talking about.
Posted by Corydon on January 28, 2010 at 1:58 PM
bucket 6
Funny that this is the flavor of the week. I TOTALLY agree that the leather/kink bars are a thing of the past, but it was only a couple weeks ago here on SLOG that the hipsters were telling the fags that "Your Eagle is now ours, get the fuck over it." What else is funny is that after reading that bullshit, I took a few handsome, hairy, masculine men down to the Eagle last Friday night and we took off our shirts and danced with abandon, while the twinks and the hipsters cowered in the corner. All it takes is an attitude, and you can make any bar your leather bar or kink bar. Shit, all I need is a urinal. By the way, everyone seems to be kinky online, but they need to put that shit out in the streets where we all can enjoy it.
Posted by bucket on January 28, 2010 at 2:01 PM
Baconcat 7
He's an IML title holder and he's talking about how things aren't authentic? Sounds like the same kinda yutz who thinks leathermen are birthed fully-formed in their forties from some primordial leatherdaddy and spends his time in the corner of a bar with his friends, turning up his nose at the youngs freaks that end up turning into the future kinks.

And if your game is thrown off by some guy with a microphone, then I'm wondering how good your game really is. He sees a distraction, I see an opportunity.
Posted by Baconcat on January 28, 2010 at 2:25 PM
Enigma 8
I think his last paragraph is his most prescient.
The young kinky community I know in Seattle doesn't have the experience of the AIDS crisis that he says changed the flavor of the leather world so much. I think that frees us up to have the kind of fun and edge pushing community he wants to bring back. Maybe the older players need to look to the kids to get some of that back into their lives. And of course keep the lessons of safety and common sense active in the scene that they had to learn the hard way.
Posted by Enigma http://approvereferendum71.org/ on January 28, 2010 at 2:29 PM
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It seems analogous to all the suburban Fubu wearing white boys going on about how gangsta and crunk they are.
Posted by Reg on January 28, 2010 at 2:37 PM
Geni 10
You see it in the straight BDSM community, too, people who are just basically into the Stand and Model thing. They like the way they look in their gear.
Posted by Geni on January 28, 2010 at 3:04 PM
Drew in Palm Springs 11
When anything transgressive becomes a "lifestyle" that you can buy online with a credit card, you can pretty much kiss the transgressive aspect good-bye.
Posted by Drew in Palm Springs http://singletails.blogspot.com on January 28, 2010 at 3:07 PM
Jubilation T. Cornball 12
Hey, if you wanna dress up like a snausage and walk around town, fine. Just don't bore me with your politics and cultural drama.
Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball on January 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM
The Amazing Jim 13
@2 - word.

As far as the rest of it is concerned, this is the price of admittance into the world of acceptance. Homogenization is the curse of those that get accepted.
Posted by The Amazing Jim http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=100000076496291&ref=profile on January 28, 2010 at 3:48 PM
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The leather "community" is just another form of drag and instead of bugle beads and sequins it's leather floggers and codpieces.
Posted by Weekilter on January 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM
linda with a y 15
I'm all for fun and games but there is a time and place for everything. This guy sounds like another person of privilege with an "IT'S ALL ABOUT ME" attitude.

Please, someone show him what to do with that microphone he's complaining about.
Posted by linda with a y on January 28, 2010 at 5:24 PM
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Why I cannot stand most 'leather men': They are whinny ass pussies. Sorry dudes, I want a man, not a sissy wearing a leather jacket to look 'butch.'
Posted by Gary SFBCN on January 28, 2010 at 9:13 PM
OutInBumF 17
Only a leather drag queen (like Gerle) would be whining this epitaph.
Leather has always been nothing more than the opposite of the drag queen. Drag queens parody the feminine and leather drag parodies the masculine. It's all 'let's play dress-up', bottom line.
Some of the most nelly guys in the universe dress up in leather and pretend to be butch, with all their scowlly faces. The SF leather scene is the worst- dress up every Sunday afternoon to go drink and exchange recipes. At least, that's what this NW queer found during his junkets to SF. Completely disappointing, with few real men ever. I'm talking the 80's and early '90's, so long before queer was mainstream.
Finding a 'real' leather man was never easy. Mr Gerle is young enough to be my son; what could he possibly know about the 'good old days'? Really.
Posted by OutInBumF on January 28, 2010 at 11:36 PM
Mayhem 18
These lads have their shit together: http://www.slm-oslo.no/ You just have to make it to skandahoovia...
Posted by Mayhem on January 29, 2010 at 5:40 AM
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First - Mike is a nice guy, so leave him alone. He's simply longing for something he is finding harder and harder to get.

Having said this, everyone needs to relax. All scenes are fading, mostly due to laws and the internet. Another good example of this is smoking in public places, versus smoking bars and smoking at home.

Things have changed. Just as predicted America lost its industrial base.

Either we all work to change them back, or accept them and move on.

I, for one, believe it's good that queers of all different tastes and backgrounds mingle and share commonality.
Posted by sirenathias216 on August 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM
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You know, Dan, you (hit it right on the head with this comment-

"And thanks to the general de-stigmatization of kinks generally...kinky gay guys don't have to date other kinky gay guys exclusively anymore. They're just as likely to seek out vanilla guys they find attractive and attempt to corrupt 'em."

Our whole society has been sanitized and de-sensitized, as well. The whole reason for seeking someone similar is for that attraction to someone who wants the same thing...a leatherman or leatherwoman for that matter, will seek out those who share their same ideals, their sex, and their kinks...

I find your comment offensive, that leathermen can now 'seek out vanilla boys and attempt to corrupt them'...as if they need your permission...

As a leatherdyke, I want the company of other leatherdykes. I have vanilla and kinky friends. I don't have to try to convert either set of friends just to feel that I belong.

Today's leather is not what is was 30 yrs ago...We certainly had to conceal who and what we are except to our closest friends...We understood the meaning of community. Men and women were able to join together, and get along...especially when you lived in a small college town with only one gay bar...

If you don't know something, ask...but be careful, you might not like what you hear...

Posted by Rudy1 on November 22, 2010 at 8:21 PM
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You know, Dan, you (hit it right on the head with this comment-

"And thanks to the general de-stigmatization of kinks generally...kinky gay guys don't have to date other kinky gay guys exclusively anymore. They're just as likely to seek out vanilla guys they find attractive and attempt to corrupt 'em."

Our whole society has been sanitized and de-sensitized, as well. The whole reason for seeking someone similar is for that attraction to someone who wants the same thing...a leatherman or leatherwoman for that matter, will seek out those who share their same ideals, their sex, and their kinks...

I find your comment offensive, that leathermen can now 'seek out vanilla boys and attempt to corrupt them'...as if they need your permission...

As a leatherdyke, I want the company of other leatherdykes. I have vanilla and kinky friends. I don't have to try to convert either set of friends just to feel that I belong.

Today's leather is not what is was 30 yrs ago...We certainly had to conceal who and what we are except to our closest friends...We understood the meaning of community. Men and women were able to join together, and get along...especially when you lived in a small college town with only one gay bar...

If you don't know something, ask...but be careful, you might not like what you hear...

Posted by Rascal on November 22, 2010 at 8:22 PM

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