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Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Flawed Poll Says Seattle Would Reject Seawall

Posted by on Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:45 PM

A poll released this afternoon by SurveyUSA says that only 53 percent of Seattle residents support Mayor Mike McGinn's plan to pay for a seawall rebuild by raising property taxes. The measure would need the favor of 60 percent of voters to pass in May.

But Bill Broadhead, a partner of ConstituentDynamics and a leading strategist for the McGinn campaign, released his own poll that shows 70 percent of voters would raise property taxes to build a seawall. McGinn presented that poll to the city council on Monday.

So why the chasm of discrepancy?

"They surveyed all adults instead of likely voters, and that could have a huge impact on the results," Broadhead says. The SurveyUSA methodology suggests that the first person to answer the phone—whether or not the person votes—is the one who answers the questions for the robo-poll.

Although there are 483,000 people in Seattle over the age of 18, only about 107,000 registered voters in Seattle have a voting record that indicates they are likely to vote in a special election, says Broadhead. "That is the universe Constituent Dynamics drew their sample from," he says. "We frequently see significant differences in electoral attitudes between likely voters versus the public at large."

Today's poll made another error by not mirroring the question as it would appear on the ballot, Broadhead says. SurveyUSA asked, "Do you support or oppose this proposal?" But that's the wrong question because ballots don't ask if voters "support" or "oppose" a measure. ConstiuentDynamics asked, "would you vote yes to approve, or no to reject this excess levy?" which mirrors the question on a ballot.

"We have great respect for SurveyUSA and would be most interested in their polling results if they interviewed likely voters and presented a question that more closely approximated the likely ballot title," Broadhead says.

But SurveyUSA also provided an important piece of information Broadhead didn't: Today's poll explains the total amount a property owner could pay: "That would be about $48 on a $400,000 dollar home." Broadhead's poll simply explained that the tax amounted to "approximately twelve cents per thousand dollars" of assessed value.

Which poll to trust? I'd lean toward Broadhead's results. McGinn said throughout his campaign, when Broadhead was his strategist, that polling showed he could win. Meanwhile, SurveyUSA consistently showed McGinn trailing Joe Mallahan. SurveyUSA was wrong about the mayor's race—and may be wrong about this, too.

Today's poll also reports that Seattle residents think the tunnel should be built—but they say by a 19-point margin that it shouldn't be built if Seattle has to pay for cost overruns.

 

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Fnarf 1
Basing decisions on critical infrastructure like the seawall on a public poll is going to ruin this city.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on January 27, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Betsy Ross 2
I don't answer the phone for polls. Are people unwilling to participate in a poll more likely to vote one way or the other?
Posted by Betsy Ross on January 27, 2010 at 6:04 PM
gloomy gus 3
(Poll) might makes (seawall) right.
Posted by gloomy gus on January 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM
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The only scientifically sound poll for Washington state politics is the Washington Poll, run out of the University of Washington. Whatever they conclude, the opposite is the correct result.
Posted by misha99 on January 27, 2010 at 6:57 PM
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Also - Bill Broadhead of "ConstituentDynamics"? You mean Bill Broadhead, founder of The Mercury Group?

Jeez, how many shady-sounding shadow organizations does this guy run?
Posted by misha99 on January 27, 2010 at 7:16 PM
MrBaker 6
How about asking a poll question about spending an extra million dollars to have a special election in May as opposed to sharing the cost with the Primary Election?

The tax would not happen until 2011.

Leadership by after-the-fact opinion pollion is pretty fucked up, Bill. Way to cover the big man's ass.
Posted by MrBaker http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ on January 27, 2010 at 7:46 PM
theophrastus 7
None of these polls are worth crap. Their sampling error can't be remotely estimated because they've no bloody clue about the systematic error built in due to telephone screening and cell-phones. So go ahead and "lean" toward the polling agency that's paid to give weighting to the mayor's point of view if you like, but you're fooling yourself no less than if your dart board told you to lean toward the other poll.

We've been living in a "Dewey Wins!" polling world for a decade now. Please let's not govern on the basis of polls; as the mayor lamentably seems likely to attempt
Posted by theophrastus on January 27, 2010 at 8:08 PM
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One weird thing about the poll was that McGinn paid for the poll "out of his own pocket." That smells fishy too.

Of course, you would take McGinn's analysis. But if you understood politics no one says "12 cents per..." unless you want an specific answer.... "only 12 cents, thats ok i am for that". but of course thats not how people get that info. that line of 12 cents was to bias the survey
Posted by West Seattle Waiter on January 27, 2010 at 8:28 PM
razorclammer 9
70 percent?! yeah right. I bet all the money in my Chase bank account that a vote will yield a result much closer to 53%.

Forgive my ignorance on this subject but is this idea of separating the seawall project from the tunnel a good/bad idea from a funding perspective? or is the mayor trying to jettison the deeply boring idea? I'm lost, obviously. I'll settle for a few decent links to get me up to date.
Posted by razorclammer on January 27, 2010 at 9:12 PM
giffy 10
That tunnel question is weird too. The last one could be read to more ask do you favor the tunnel if there are cost overruns and Seattle has to pay. Some of those that switch may be objecting to cost overruns and not the burden on Seattle.
Posted by giffy on January 27, 2010 at 9:15 PM
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God, talk about stupid fuckin' credulous hacks. You really need to find someone to cover McGinn who might actually ask a difficult question, look critically at issues and not accept everything he tells you at face value.

Sorry, but you've lost all credibility here.
Posted by bigyaz on January 27, 2010 at 9:24 PM
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Broadhead's criticism of Survey USA is correct if the group only polled anyone who was over 18 instead of registered voters. The results wouldn't tell us much. That said, when we're still 4 months away from only a theoretical ballot measure, any poll based on 'likely voters' is also complete bunk.

It is interesting that the numbers supporting increased taxes for seawall reconstruction are almost identical to those supporting a tunnel. That the numbers crater if the city is forced to pay for all overruns shouldn't surprise anyone.
Posted by serotonein on January 27, 2010 at 10:46 PM
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There's no good reason to have a special election except to supress turnout, which Broadhead seems to be admitting here...
Posted by J.R. on January 28, 2010 at 8:26 AM

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