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News & ArtsTuesday, January 26, 2010
Crime Parents Killed Their Son with Prayers
Posted by Charles Mudede on Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:23 AM
The parents should be punished with real hard time. The other nutters must see that the state, the universal (meaning, human reason), will not put up with their religious nonsense.
OREGON CITY — When their son became ill, Jeffrey and Marci Beagley were confronted by several symptoms that would concern any reasonable parent but gave no indication that death was imminent, a pediatrician said Monday.The physician, Dr. Douglas Diekema, was the first defense witness called in the trial of the Oregon City couple. His testimony in Clackamas County Circuit Court laid the foundation for the argument that the Beagleys acted prudently in making decisions about care for their 16-year-old son, Neil...
....The Beagleys were charged with criminally negligent homicide after Neil died in June 2008 from an untreated urinary blockage. The family belongs to the Followers of Christ, an Oregon City congregation that generally uses faith healing rather than medical treatment.
Then there is Kenya:
(BBC) A new insurance scheme has been launched in northern Kenya which offers herdsmen a chance to protect their livestock against drought.If the country people will not come to the city, then we will have to go to the country people and sort out their country problems.The initiative uses satellite technology to check the pasture available for the herders.
Arid northern Kenya suffered a severe drought last year and hundreds of thousands of animals died.
Until now insuring herds of livestock in rural Africa has been all but impossible.
We must never, never forget LKJ's "Reality Poem":
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Remember Charles, your secularism close to another form of fundamentalism. With that said condolences to the family who had a batshit crazy church poison their mind and coerce them into murdering their child.
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I won't comment on the Oregon kid, because everyone else here I'm sure will.
Instead I'll pick Kenya for $200.
Charles, it's not so much a matter of city people coming to the country as it is maximizing available resources with a new tool and offering financial incentive — via protection — to do so. It's an assurance of trust: knowing that others have a concerned stake in how well the herds do ennobles the herdsmen to move their herds in places they might not otherwise have risked considering before. The sat tools help.
The problem to come from this, however, is the tragedy of the commons, assuming that the pasture spaces are open and not subject to the "I Was a Teenage Son of Enclosures Act".
Instead I'll pick Kenya for $200.
Charles, it's not so much a matter of city people coming to the country as it is maximizing available resources with a new tool and offering financial incentive — via protection — to do so. It's an assurance of trust: knowing that others have a concerned stake in how well the herds do ennobles the herdsmen to move their herds in places they might not otherwise have risked considering before. The sat tools help.
The problem to come from this, however, is the tragedy of the commons, assuming that the pasture spaces are open and not subject to the "I Was a Teenage Son of Enclosures Act".
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Charles, just when I think you are beyond hope, tied in an elaborate macrame bondage harness self constructed of your misreading of history and philosophy, you redeem yourself with your appreciation for LKJ.
And Burial, too, of course...
And Burial, too, of course...
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God damn it Charles, without country people you'd DIE. You're elitism is completely offensive and frankly stupid.
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I understand the urge to react to this profound ignorance with hostility, but unfortunately you're playing right into their hands when you do so. Fundamentalists feed on perceived persecution, after all.
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Whatever. If the kid had been begging for medical treatment while the parents withheld it, I'd agree, but if he bought into the same religious bullshit they did, I don't agree that the parents are culpable. A 16-year-old is old enough to make his own medical decisions, whether overruling his parents by accepting medical care or overruling them by refusing it.
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I agree with 10. The kid was 16, he didn't want treatment he shouldn't be forced into getting treatment or going without.
How is helping people, without intruding upon their 'simple' lives in anyway a bad thing? Especially with food supplies and money at stake in a country that isn't exactly flush. Knowing exactly where they need to go and when is an excellent way to protect resources and create time efficiency. Unless, you know, it is really just a scheme.
Nice LKJ
How is helping people, without intruding upon their 'simple' lives in anyway a bad thing? Especially with food supplies and money at stake in a country that isn't exactly flush. Knowing exactly where they need to go and when is an excellent way to protect resources and create time efficiency. Unless, you know, it is really just a scheme.
Nice LKJ
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@10, 12:
The kid has been brainwashed into believing that what his parents thought was good, was indeed good. "Old enough to make his own medical decisions"? With all the pressure from his family and the rest of the congregation to stick to faith healing?
Please wisen up. This is murder by ignorance.
The kid has been brainwashed into believing that what his parents thought was good, was indeed good. "Old enough to make his own medical decisions"? With all the pressure from his family and the rest of the congregation to stick to faith healing?
Please wisen up. This is murder by ignorance.
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