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Friday, January 15, 2010

On Patenting Punctuation

Posted by on Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM

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Daring Fireball linked to this Telegraph story about the Sarc Mark. The mark, at left, is supposed to signify sarcasm in e-mails, word documents, and so on.

Lack of inflection is obviously a big problem, now that more people than ever before communicate on a regular basis using the written word. Emoticons are the answer that has widely been accepted, but something a little more formal would be useful. I actually think that a sarcasm punctuation mark would be a useful thing, but I don't know if I'd be willing to pay two bucks for it. Maybe we should just repurpose the carat, instead? (I can hear you now: "^Yeah, sure, that's a great idea, genius.^")

 

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1
Paul, you are a frigging genius. No carat included because I'm not being sarcastic.
Posted by ScreenName on January 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM
Baconcat 2
^Reading this was a great use of my time.^
Posted by Baconcat on January 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM
3
I figured that the result of this little sales stunt would just be that we would choose a free symbol instead.

Of course, instead of using stupid emoticons, you could just write well enough that your tone is understood. But that would be asking too much.
Posted by TValley on January 15, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Fnarf 4
The person who came up with this should be beaten to death with a length of lead pipe.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on January 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM
5
Trademarked punctuation is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.
Posted by carrma on January 15, 2010 at 3:15 PM
6
Paul, this is such a great idea. I'm serious. Get a Stranger campaign behind it, ala Santorum and make it a nation-wide phenom. I will use this in the future and explain to people what it means till it catches on.
Posted by such a good idea (not being sarcastic) on January 15, 2010 at 3:34 PM
7
The sarcasm punctuation mark already exists, it is the tilde (~).

e.g. "Yeah, that's a great idea~"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde

My first experience with it is Koreans(?) using it as shorthand for "la~", whatever the hell that means, in a sarcastic manner back on Battle.Net in the 90s.
Posted by ser on January 15, 2010 at 3:48 PM
8
If people can't understand your intent when reading your words, you should work on writing better. Sarcasm is only funny if it doesn't announce itself in this way.
Posted by Demoticon on January 15, 2010 at 3:55 PM
rallyinfinite 9
now that web-fonts are getting into vogue, I think we should, instead of a mark or anything, just have ComicSans MS be the official sarcasm font. It would at least cut down on underuse
Posted by rallyinfinite on January 15, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Zebes 10
Four two bucks I will berate you over IMs until you stop being too thick and/or too naive to not keep your sarcasm detectors perpetually operating while on the internets.
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on January 15, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Zebes 11
Four two bucks? That should be for two bucks, my mistake.

Although I will accept forty-two bucks as well.
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on January 15, 2010 at 4:39 PM
12
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <- that's gold!
Posted by Drew2u on January 15, 2010 at 4:39 PM
13
This is a trademark, not a patent.
Posted by Reg on January 15, 2010 at 4:42 PM
Dexter 14
The power of sarcasm is lost when you point it out.
Posted by Dexter on January 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM
meowmeowkitty 15
Paul, you are so damn smart.
Posted by meowmeowkitty on January 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM
rob! 16
The punctuation mark of which you speak is the caret.
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on January 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
17
@4 that's an interesting reaction, I just wish there were a way for me to know if you're being sarcastic or not.
Posted by nightlifejitters on January 15, 2010 at 6:15 PM
josh 18
the ^best^ part of the sarcmark is its tagline: "tell them how you really feel"
Posted by josh http://www.sciencevsromance.net on January 15, 2010 at 6:41 PM
19
"Oh interesting," he vividly exclaimed!

"Now we can have writing that doesn't show -- it can tell! "

"This is a huge advance," he said, thoughtfully.
Posted by "Shut up," I explained.... on January 15, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Greg 20
If you have to pay money to use it, nobody will use it. They'll use the free equivalent, or nothing. This isn't a fucking cure for cancer.
Posted by Greg on January 15, 2010 at 10:51 PM
21
I HAVE A BETTER IDEA: JUST USE CAPS AND EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!
Posted by madcap on January 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM
Christampa 22
There is no inherent limitation to sarcasm in writing. Any failed attempt to write something sarcastic, or to understand written sarcasm is the fault of the individual, not the medium.
Posted by Christampa on January 16, 2010 at 12:29 AM
23
I don't think I've ever seen an "inventor" try to pass off a product as its own trademark. I suppose it's fitting that the thing looks as if it's trying to disappear up its own asshole.

Still, I think some sort of universally accepted "sarcasm mark" would be a wonderful addition to the language. Coders could then easily create a simple browser plug-in that would automatically filtering out 95% of all lame attempts at humor.
Posted by Furcifer on January 16, 2010 at 1:50 AM
24
I like it! You don't see the caret used for anything, ever, so let's use it more often. I can already see lots of comments that involve both a caret and a stick.
Thank you, I'll be here all week.
Posted by YTAH http://ytah.wordpress.com/ on January 17, 2010 at 12:47 AM
Rhoda Skidmark 25
The irony mark (؟) has been around for over 100 years with no widespread adoption. Doesn't that suggest that there's no real need?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_mark
Posted by Rhoda Skidmark on January 17, 2010 at 11:40 PM

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