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News & ArtsMonday, January 11, 2010
Homo / Religion Isn't Celibacy a Threat to "Creation" Too?
Posted by Dan Savage on Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Ladies and gentleman, the pope!
Pope Benedict on Tuesday linked the Church's opposition to gay marriage to concern about the environment, suggesting that laws undermining "the differences between the sexes" were threats to creation. The pope made his comments in an address to diplomats in his yearly assessment of world events. The main theme of the address was the environment and the protection of creation.... "Creatures differ from one another and can be protected, or endangered, in different ways, as we know from daily experience. One such attack comes from laws or proposals which, in the name of fighting discrimination, strike at the biological basis of the difference between the sexes," he said. "I am thinking, for example, of certain countries in Europe or North and South America."
A shout of from the holy father to Spain, Portugal, Canada, Mexico, Argentina. And remember kids: if gay marriage is permitted, straight people won't marry or have babies and the WORLD WILL END!!! Trust the Catholic Church... because, hey, it was right about the movement of the planets, right?
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God meant for the penis to go into the vagina each and every time. You gays might as well be stuffing donuts and coffee up your butts.
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The ideal world population is 1.5 to 2 billion people. It's around 6.8 as of now. Gays and Lesbian should be encouraged. Especially the ones who don't want their own biological kids.
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Doesn't marriage allow us to join together two people from typically different backgrounds that ended up -- at least temporarily, if not permanently -- in a situation not so dissimilar as to preclude them from falling in love? In other words, strengthening society through forging bonds throughout various social strata and situations?
And if we continue to do so, we're making it more likely that society mingles and mixes and combines in a way that promotes creation, right?
So why can't we do that with two men or two women?
And if we continue to do so, we're making it more likely that society mingles and mixes and combines in a way that promotes creation, right?
So why can't we do that with two men or two women?
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@3 Some do, I'm sure, but that doesn't make you any less of an asshole.
The Catholic Church has about zero credibility.
The Catholic Church has about zero credibility.
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Here's something you may not know about Ratzinger the Nazi Pope: when he was just Prefect, he played a key role in attacking Seattle's liberal Archbishop, Dutch Hunthausen, who was allowing gay Catholics to use the cathedral. The Huntausen affair was the last gasp of liberal Catholicism (yes, there used to be such a thing) in America. Ratz has been working against gay people for thirty years.
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The Pope is another Paulist, those people who think Paul is right and women only have half (or less) of a soul and that we should ignore the Judeo part of Jesus that says women have full souls.
Have pity on them, for they know not how greatly they offend His Noodliness by ignoring the Pasta Dinner.
Have pity on them, for they know not how greatly they offend His Noodliness by ignoring the Pasta Dinner.
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Shorter Pope Ex-Hitler Jugend:
"If teh gays can marry, there'll be fewer babies born, because fewer closeted gays will feel the need to marry an opposite-sex 'beard', which means fewer potential members of the Church to pay for my extravagant lifestyle, and for my priests to sexually abuse - so naturally, God is against Gay marriage."
"If teh gays can marry, there'll be fewer babies born, because fewer closeted gays will feel the need to marry an opposite-sex 'beard', which means fewer potential members of the Church to pay for my extravagant lifestyle, and for my priests to sexually abuse - so naturally, God is against Gay marriage."
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@7: The P-I-V thing forbids masturbation and opposite gender oral and anal sex as well as birth control. Lapsed Catholics like Savage should just ignore the Catholic Church. It has a consistent worldview that would keep him celibate for life. It's not a cafeteria.
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I think I'm going to rent Elizabeth tonight just so I can watch some hard core Catholics burn at the stake.
And I'll make damn sure I am enjoy a nice medium rare steak while watching it then fuck a couple of guys afterwards.
All of this dedicated to the Pope!!
And I'll make damn sure I am enjoy a nice medium rare steak while watching it then fuck a couple of guys afterwards.
All of this dedicated to the Pope!!
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The church in general and this pope in particular, pay alot of lip service to the world's disenfranchised. Then they rob them and rape their children.
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P.S. Anybody who is stupid enough to believe those perverts are celibate, I have a bridge to sell you.
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This also suggests that flight is a threat to gravity. Once a few people start to defy the imperatives God has decreed in nature, it's only a matter of time before all of God's order is upended. Soon, everyone and everything will be flying through the air, and gravity will be made a mockery.
Also: Heat? Isn't not freezing to death in the winter an affront to the Almighty? And light. God made it light and dark and when you use technology to suspend His darkness, you are destroying creation.
I want to see that Pope naked in a field somewhere, freezing in the dark. And procreating.
Also: Heat? Isn't not freezing to death in the winter an affront to the Almighty? And light. God made it light and dark and when you use technology to suspend His darkness, you are destroying creation.
I want to see that Pope naked in a field somewhere, freezing in the dark. And procreating.
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And all the while he and his cabal queen around the Vatican in their embroidered robes and priceless jewels, living the gayest lifestyle imaginable.
The Nazinger can haz infallibility!
The Nazinger can haz infallibility!
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Trust Papa Ratzi to figure out a way to make the case that the Church's policy of sanctioning rampant overpopulation is somehow environmentally friendly. There is probably no greater culprit in the promotion of starvation, misery and squandering of the Earth's limited resources than the Catholic Church.
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If gays can be out and are accepted by society, there won't be anyone but pedohiles and zoophiliacs left to become priests.
60 years ago, a gay Catholic man could either pretend to be straight and marry a woman, or become a priest or monk and hope to get some brotherly love from his peers.
Is it a coincidence that during the last 40 years the Catholic church had a priest recruiting problem, while at the same time the gays got more rights and became more visible in society?
Gay marriage doesn't threaten straight marriage, but certainly Catholic priestdom (is that a word?)!
60 years ago, a gay Catholic man could either pretend to be straight and marry a woman, or become a priest or monk and hope to get some brotherly love from his peers.
Is it a coincidence that during the last 40 years the Catholic church had a priest recruiting problem, while at the same time the gays got more rights and became more visible in society?
Gay marriage doesn't threaten straight marriage, but certainly Catholic priestdom (is that a word?)!
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The thing that always strikes me as insane in these types of arguments is the idea that by allowing things like tolerance and equality for gays and lesbians we would somehow be creating a world where everyone was only interested in the same sex. What the hell is up with these people? I am a straight chick and no amount of gay marriage is going to make me any less interested in penis, just like all the good old heterosexual marriages that exist haven't eliminated the existence of homosexuals. Are all of these people so depserately closeted that they genuinely can not believe that there is such a thing as straight people except in such cases where they are forced into heterosexual relationships by societal norms?
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@17: The demise of primogeniture was a huge problem for the priesthood, too. When everything was inherited by the first son, it made sense for the second or third son to go into the priesthood, where at least he had shelter, three squares a day and some status.
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Anyone who seriously thinks that legalizing gay marriage would make everyone go crazy for the gay sex and cause the human population to drop is very, very gay on the inside.
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My dear Mr. Dan Savage, two words: Stephen Hough. He is a gay and a Catholic and about the most intelligent man you could have the pleasure to talk to. He is releasing a book at some point about how one may be gay and Catholic. Oh, and his day job is being one of the world's best classical pianists, possibly the best. I advise you to acquaint yourself with him.
http://www.amazon.com/Not-Good-Man-Be-Al…
www.stephenhough.com
http://www.amazon.com/Not-Good-Man-Be-Al…
www.stephenhough.com
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I reckon the Catholic Church lost their right to tell anyone where to stick their hoo-hahs and doohickeys when they started shielding pedophiles from prosecution. (And that's another thing that charming Irishwoman who's in the news forgot.)
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The Pope...
...has never been married.
...has never been a parent to a child.
...has spent most of his career protecting pedophiles and persecuting their victims.
...dares to lecture anyone about human sexuality, marriage and parenting.
Guess it doesn't matter whether he's wearing silk robes or a brown uniform, he's still just raising his arm and preaching hate.
...has never been married.
...has never been a parent to a child.
...has spent most of his career protecting pedophiles and persecuting their victims.
...dares to lecture anyone about human sexuality, marriage and parenting.
Guess it doesn't matter whether he's wearing silk robes or a brown uniform, he's still just raising his arm and preaching hate.
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Oh Boy!
The latest chapter of the "Dan thinks the Catholics screwed him over and he Hates them" saga.
I'll get popcorn.
The latest chapter of the "Dan thinks the Catholics screwed him over and he Hates them" saga.
I'll get popcorn.
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@4 Right on! I basically said the same thing in the comments on "O they will know we are Christians..."
Glad to see there are others who share my viewpoint.
Glad to see there are others who share my viewpoint.
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@1, unfortunately, millions in the developing world do, hence the human rights atrocities in places like Uganda. Travelling to developing nations to proselytise should be a criminal offence. We should be able to charge them, here when they step back off the plane, for crimes against humanity.
@14, "flight is a threat to gravity": pure gold.
@14, "flight is a threat to gravity": pure gold.
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