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Friday, January 8, 2010

Dept. of Corrections: Soda Tax

Posted by on Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Yesterday, I reported that lawmakers heading to Olympia were considering applying the sales tax to soda pop, which, they said, was currently exempt from sales tax as a food item. It turns out that the sales tax already applies to soda. Today State Senator Joe McDermott (D-34) says he was “wrong” and State Senator Jeanne Kohl-Wells (D-36) says she “misled” me. (I didn't check the Washington Administrative Code when I wrote the post because I thought the two lawmakers, who have served 26 years in the legislature between them, knew the specifics of the proposal.)

But both say there is still discussion of adding a tax to soda—just not by applying standard sales tax. McDermott and Kohl-Welles today say that lawmakers are discussing taxing the bulk wholesale syrup used for fountain drinks. Currently the syrup is taxed, but businesses receive a business and occupation tax credit for it. “If we repeal the B&O tax credit for syrup tax paid, we would get about $8 million a year,” says state senate spokeswoman Anne Burkland. She notes that would increase to $15 million a year if the state raised the syrup tax from $1 to $2—which is still a drop in the bucket toward filling the state’s $2.6 billion budget hole.

However, Kohl-Welles says lawmakers “can increase the sales tax, too.” If the state set the tax sales tax at five cents per 12 ounce unit, the state would generate about $100 million a year, according to Burkland.

That’s a step in the right direction, but we should take it further—tax a quarter on a 12 ounce can. By Burkland's math, that would be a half billion dollars to help offset the medical costs of obesity and diabetes that soda contributes to, and actually makes a dent in the state’s budget.

 

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Are diet sodas exempt then? They neither contribute to diabetes or obesity. Jussayin...
Posted by SaltyGawd on January 8, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Will in Seattle 2
You know, if we taxed MJ buds a similar amount, we could run this state in the black instead of the red ....
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 8, 2010 at 12:24 PM
3
Sin taxes. Lovely. Nickel and dime small businesses and low-income consumers.

If we need the money, just do a flippin' income tax and be done with it. It can be very easy to administer:

-- What was your AGI for the, based on the federal form you already fill out?
-- Subtract x-dollars
-- Multiply it by y-percent
-- That's your state income tax

Why don't we do that? Oh, yeah, cuz even in librul ole Worshington, people with money benefit from our regressive tax system.
Posted by Punditwatch on January 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM
danindowntown 4
Yeah, more regressive taxes from our "center-left" State Legislature. Too bad neither of the politicians, has the moxy to start a real discussion about tax reform in this state. Soda pop taxes, cigarette taxes, liquor taxes, teddy bear taxes, coffee taxes, or any other targeted "sin tax" will not lift the state out of its budget crisis.

A measured, rational discussion about shifting our tax policy to a balance of sales and progressive income tax needs to happen. If we had a system like that we would still have a budget crisis but perhaps it wouldn't be as severe.

Here is another thought. TAX BOEING! They slap our state in the face all the time. Let's slap back.
Posted by danindowntown on January 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Hernandez 5
Yeah, at this rate we will eventually run out of things to sin-tax into oblivion because no one's got the stones to overhaul our state's tax system.
Posted by Hernandez http://hernandezlist.blogspot.com on January 8, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Joe Szilagyi 6
An income tax would be impossible until the referendum/iniative system was discarded. Eyman and company would fight it tooth and nail annually.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://www.joeszilagyi.com on January 8, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Geni 7
What Punditwatch said. This nickel-and-dime shit has to end. It's always been political suicide in this state to even think about an income tax, but that is just so much bullshit. Tie it to a prohibition on raising the sales tax above 4%, enshrine both in the state constitution, and quit fucking around with sin taxes and similar nonsense.
Posted by Geni on January 8, 2010 at 12:47 PM
TheMisanthrope 8
We should tax bicycles for the gas they cause motorists to waste and their future medical bills caused by injuries when they get hit running red lights.
Posted by TheMisanthrope on January 8, 2010 at 12:49 PM
Aaron 9
Screw diet soda, what about plain old carbonated water with some essential oils, like the can of Talking Rain lemon-lime I'm working on right now? Is that taxable as soda?

I guess I'd be okay with that as long as it also hits any prepared canned green tea drinkers in the wallet as well.
Posted by Aaron on January 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM
Fnarf 10
So this is the guy who y'all were going to crucify Larry Phillips for blocking on the County Council the other day? Even though he didn't? And Kohl-Welles, Jesus, woman.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on January 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Will in Seattle 11
(puts little finger up to his mouth)

One hundred million.

Bwaa haa haa

(looks aside)

was that enough?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 8, 2010 at 1:19 PM
gloomy gus 12
A commenter to yesterday's original post looked up the law on the books and was kind enough to quote it. Maybe that's how "Pop" McDermott and Kohl-Wells found out about it.
Posted by gloomy gus on January 8, 2010 at 1:44 PM
13
Hell, since by Holden's math the Laffer curve is a myth, why not just impose a tax of $1.25/can and close the state's whole budget gap?

Progressivism used to be a movement by and for the lower classes. Now that progressivism has become a movement that, while ostensibly for the lower classes, is in fact by upper-middle-class liberal arts majors, we get proposals like this.

"Oh," says the latte-sipping liberal, "soda is so unhealthy. It probably has a big carbon footprint, too. We should tax it and use it to fund services for the poor, like smaller comparitive literature classes at universities. And while we are at it, we should tax those nasty NASCAR races and use the money to subsizie Yoga studios."
Posted by David Wright on January 8, 2010 at 1:49 PM
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Will in Seattle 15
@13 - it's not just the Laffer curve that's a myth, it's the entire Chicago school of economics and all the people who deny that there are both Goods and Bads.

Read Adam Smith's second book on Capitalism if you're slow or stupid enough to have believed any of the carp that Ayn Rand published.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM
16
Lawn Makers? I've noticed so many typos on the slog lately it's embarrassing! This is Seattle! Stop it you're embarrassing us all! I can't believe you get away with this crap in this economy. Teacher gives you an F.
Posted by teachergivesyouanf on January 8, 2010 at 2:56 PM
17
Does that $100 million projection take into account the fact that, as the price rises, people consume less? If not, that's hilariously inept; we're talking Econ 101 here.

@1,

No, they're not exempt. It seems like bottled water and carbonated water are though. At least the seltzer water I bought last week seemed to be tax free.
Posted by keshmeshi on January 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM
18
Keshmeshi @ 17: The effect you describe is the Laffer curve. In the context of predicting the effects of changes to tax policy, it is also called dynamic scoring.

And yes, it is Econ 101. But as Will @15 comment shows, there are still plenty of people who view it as some evil right-wing conspiracy. The U.S. government did not start using dynamic scoring to evaluate proposed legislation until just a few years ago, and even then it was instituted over howls of protest from Democrats, who didn't like a change that made taxes look less revenue-generating and tax-cuts look less revenue-loosing, than the previous naive analysis that assumed people don't respond to incentives.
Posted by David Wright on January 8, 2010 at 4:45 PM
19
POP
Posted by funkathrusta on January 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM
20
can we also stop subsidizing the corn industry while we're at it?
Posted by if fiscal conservatism is at issue... on January 8, 2010 at 9:10 PM
litlnemo 21
Wow. I figured Dominic just misunderstood what the senators were proposing, but they actually didn't seem to know themselves that pop was already taxed? You would think they would actually look up the relevant law before publicly proposing to alter it.

@12 That would be me. No hat tip, Dominic? Aw.
Posted by litlnemo http://slumberland.org/ on January 9, 2010 at 4:06 PM

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