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News & ArtsWednesday, December 30, 2009
Homo / Hetero 2010 Marriage Protection Signature Drive
Posted by Dan Savage on Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:40 AM
It's too late to save Karl Rove's marriage—or Doug Manchester's marriage—but the folks who are trying to ban straight divorce in California are hard at work.
Traditional marriage is for life. Which means Karl and Doug shouldn't have been allowed to get out of their marriages alive, right?
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See, this biting satire is funny to someone who isn't already an asshat. Asshats aren't going to see the humor, or the error of their ways, or whatnot. Asshats aren't going to say "Gee, my denying other's rights is as bad as if someone tried to deny mine," or "The ability to bring about these Propositions is unfair, even when the topic is something I believe in."
Asshats will always game the system in their favor, cry foul if it's gamed against them, and ignore anything close to logic, reason, or compassion. There will never be a way to reach them.
Asshats will always game the system in their favor, cry foul if it's gamed against them, and ignore anything close to logic, reason, or compassion. There will never be a way to reach them.
2
It's amazing such fine actors weren't already booked on other projects. I especially like the sensible gal with the tragic hair at the very end.
3
I don't know why this is a faux petition drive. It was my idea months ago to do this for real. It makes perfect since. If you go to the Bible and see what Jesus says about divorce, then why would these self-righteous Christians allow state-sponsored divorce? I think we should start the petition for real right away.
6
I've said it before here, and I guess I'm gonna say it again, but having been married - and divorced - it is completely beyond me why anybody in their right mind would ever want to get married. I guess when you're "in love," that whole right mind thing sorta goes out the window, but I know I won't be doing it again.
7
I appreciate the point you are making Dan but traditional marriage often has provisions for divorce. The old testament has a provision for divorce if there is adultery although some interpret this as only during the period of engagement before the wedding, however once a person was engaged they were "married" already in Jewish culture around the time the bible was written.
In Islam there is much more said about divorce. Such as there is a 4 month period after separation when god will accept the marriage back but after that it must be made permanent.
So as Dan has said before. Heterosexuals have already redefined marriage several times and we would mostly all agree it has been for good. What is wrong with one more tweak to the system?
In Islam there is much more said about divorce. Such as there is a 4 month period after separation when god will accept the marriage back but after that it must be made permanent.
So as Dan has said before. Heterosexuals have already redefined marriage several times and we would mostly all agree it has been for good. What is wrong with one more tweak to the system?
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Agree with @3 - They should do this for real. Making it over-the-top ironic comedy schtick just makes people who already support it laugh and people who don't support it ignore it. If it's real, they can't ignore it.
9
We'll call your bluff, Dan.
We'll gladly outlaw divorce
and in return
the Gays STFU about homosexual marriage.
We'll gladly outlaw divorce
and in return
the Gays STFU about homosexual marriage.
10
Remember, it's not how many concubines you have, according to the Bible, it's how many wives and handmaidens.
11
Folks, this is an actual ballot initiative campaign. Of course it was undertaken to poke the pro-Prop. 8 people in the eye, but the petitions are being circulated.
12
Please join their Facebook fanpage:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/2010-Calif…
...And suggest it to your friends.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/2010-Calif…
...And suggest it to your friends.
13
An empty wager @9, because you know straights will NEVER allow a "no-divorce marriage law" to go into effect.
Nice try though, and thanks for playing; we'll send you the home version of the game.
Nice try though, and thanks for playing; we'll send you the home version of the game.
14
Dan, fyi, the American Psychological Association is funneling their members dollars in Doug Manchester's pocket right now. Go to bioethicsforum.org/ and click on the first post ("Attention Shoppers").
16
I could not agree more with some people here. This initiative IS real however it is tough to get something on the ballot in California unless you have lots of money.
It's very hard to argue against a humorous message. Notice that leaders in the religious right are just trying to ignore this issue but it continues to pick up steam. It's harder to confront this kind of humor head on.
It's very hard to argue against a humorous message. Notice that leaders in the religious right are just trying to ignore this issue but it continues to pick up steam. It's harder to confront this kind of humor head on.
17
What we NEED is for a senator to propose IN Congress a bill in which divorces in other states do not NEED to be recognized by other states.
25
Doug Manchester appears to be trying to AVOID a divorce, by getting a legal separation. It's the wife who's suing for divorce.
Not that that makes much difference in my book...it's still hypocritical.
Not that that makes much difference in my book...it's still hypocritical.
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@24:
My game is blackjack, preferably single or double-deck only, $10 minimum, no limit.
8 times out of 10 I walk away on the upside.
My game is blackjack, preferably single or double-deck only, $10 minimum, no limit.
8 times out of 10 I walk away on the upside.
28
You know, Allegedly (@22)* you like to dismiss this all as whining, but that doesn't make these gripes illegitimate.
At least we don't have an entire cable network devoted to whining on our behalf. Do we, Allegedly? How many do you have?
We're all grey iron here, Allegedly. Don't even try to imagine you're stainless. I think the term whining ups your crackpot index.
* Oh lookie! See, for the convenience of others, I'm numerically indexing your comments. All better now, Allegedly?
At least we don't have an entire cable network devoted to whining on our behalf. Do we, Allegedly? How many do you have?
We're all grey iron here, Allegedly. Don't even try to imagine you're stainless. I think the term whining ups your crackpot index.
* Oh lookie! See, for the convenience of others, I'm numerically indexing your comments. All better now, Allegedly?
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28
grey iron?
I don't think so:
I'm titanium,
you're poo-
everything you say
bounces off of me
and sticks to you
grey iron?
I don't think so:
I'm titanium,
you're poo-
everything you say
bounces off of me
and sticks to you
33
@27:
How ARE things down there at the bottom of the barrel? Keep scraping, I'm sure you'll come up with something real good...
How ARE things down there at the bottom of the barrel? Keep scraping, I'm sure you'll come up with something real good...
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