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Tuesday, December 29, 2009

12/25 Was an Inside Job

Posted by on Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:30 PM

It used to take a few years for conspiracy theories to take hold. Now it barely takes a week:

First we have the very obvious problems with the mainstream narrative. How is it that Ted Kennedy can’t get on an airplane but a Nigerian national can get an multiple entry visa to the United States? What are we to make of reports that a well-dressed man helped Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab board the plane without a passport? Finally, what of the fact that Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab’s father reported that he was becoming more interested in Islamic terrorist groups, and that he had been placed on a federal watch list for such people?

Further, the idea that “the system failed” seems to be a weak argument for why this terror plot “just happened.”

The government would have gotten away with that New World Order plot, too, if it wasn't for that meddling hottie Dutchman.

 

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Arsenic7 1
It's odd that a lot of these conspiracy theories seem to rest on the idea that the government is some sort of perfect engine, therefore, when it fails to protect us it must have been intentional.
Posted by Arsenic7 on December 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM
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Dan, I hope the Dutchman comes and out says he's gay. So that Faux news can go crazy realizing that a gay European saved the day in the US on a Christian holiday.
Posted by apres_moi on December 29, 2009 at 2:46 PM
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The Netherlands is under water for Chrissake -- and yet we do nothing about it!?!

Posted by Holden Caulfield's Dog on December 29, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Will in Seattle 4
Never forget that GWB and Cheney approved the visa originally and ignored the Nigerian dad's warnings.

Which explains why conspiracy theories are more convoluted than you think ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on December 29, 2009 at 3:18 PM
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The neocons must not have paid the Dutch guy enough. When will they learn that if you're going to orchestrate a terrorist attack, you can't pinch pennies.
Posted by Roma on December 29, 2009 at 3:21 PM
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In 2008, the ACLU estimated the US 'No Fly List' to have grown to over 1,000,000 names -- heck, even Cat Stevens and the late Senator Ted Kennedy were on it -- and it continues to expand. But, suspected terrorist Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab, who was curiously able to obtain military-grade high explosives --80 grams of PETN (Gee, where'd he get that?) -- managed to escape airport security and detonate his underwear bomb!

In April 2009, American authorities reportedly refused an Air France flight from Paris to Mexico entry into US airspace because a left-wing journalist writing a book on the CIA was on board. Hernando Calvo Ospina, who works for Le Monde Diplomatique and has written on revolutionary movements in Cuba and Colombia, figured on the US authorities' 'no-fly list.' Air France said the April 18 flight was forced to divert to the French Caribbean island of Martinique before continuing its journey (telegraph.co.uk).

Got it? Write a book critical of the CIA -- you cannot fly. Carry explosives (allegedly from Yemen) on board when the US is trolling for an excuse to invade and occupy Yemen for its oil -- yes you can! The US needs false flags to provide cover for illegal invasions and occupations. The 9/11 terrorist attacks (aka inside job, six ways to Sunday) worked well for the US government; the security-industrial complex made billions and US corporaterrorists were able to negotiate the wholesale theft of Iraq's oil.

According to CNN, the terror suspect's father tried to warn authorities. CNN reported: The father of a man suspected in a botched terror attack aboard a Northwest Airlines flight contacted the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria recently with concerns his son was planning something, a senior U.S. administration official said Saturday. The father -- identified by a family source as Umaru Abdul Mutallab -- contacted the U.S. Embassy "a few weeks ago" saying his son, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, had "become radicalized," the senior administration official, who is familiar with the case, told CNN.

And yet, Abdulmutallab was not obliged to undergo any additional airport screening layers, prior to boarding for the last leg of his journey to Detroit.

Also, lest we forget: Three key provisions of the Patriot Act are scheduled to expire 31 December 2009. Hmm. I wonder if post-Abdulmutallab they will get renewed?

The goal is Yemeni oil. Hence the reason for the destabilization and the purported need for the US to stop al-Qaeda (literally, 'the database'). The Yemeni national security chief has declared that the country is receiving assistance from the US in the crackdown on what he called 'al-Qaeda operatives' in southern Yemen (Press TV). Translation: US corporaterrorists want Yemen's oil and they want it NOW.
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Posted by No. Fuck YOU, Paul on December 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Fnarf 7
Bing, bong. @6, please prepare the cabin for arrival.

You know what else is a fuckin' conspiracy? Those "Push To Walk" buttons at the corner. I could swear I heard Dick Cheney's voice come out it this morning saying "Pat him down, Kenneth. Things fall apart. Christmas was an inside job. Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Cuckoo." Whaddya make of THAT, kimo sabe?
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on December 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM
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@6- Get professional help, you suffer from paranoid delusions.
Posted by dwight moody on December 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM
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Apparently some folks just have a hard time getting their mind around how easy it is to pull off something like this.
PETN is extensively used (as prima cord) in the demolition and mining business. Anyone with a very basic knowledge of chemistry could figure out an approriate oxidizer. Someone with a bit more knowledge might have figured out one that oxidized it fast enough to cause it to explode rather than burn.
Lots of folks from Islamic backgrounds have US re-entry visas (i.e. standard visas). That's simply a consquence of being a world commercial and financial center.
Our intelligence relies heavily on random intercepts of arabic conversations that we have a very poor capability to process. Finding arabic speakers in various dialects who are willing to work in intelligence and able to get a security clearance to do it has been a problem since 9-11.
With regard to this sort of plot, any conspiracy theory simply falls to Okham's Razor.
Posted by kinaidos on December 29, 2009 at 3:44 PM
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@6, thanks, that was enlightening.
To the others, who gives a fuck if the whole picture he draws isn't convincing enough for you? I don't give a damn that you're not interested in looking deeper into these things. Your inaction and lack of curiosity isn't newsworthy. Nor is it admirable or impressive. You're the type that praise someone's 'investigative journalism' when the world accepts it, and condemns someone's 'conspiracy theory rantings' when it's not accepted.

In other words, you're passive, inert, and easily led. From what I gather, the guy was nuts. He wasn't a patsy, wasn't working for 'al qaeda,' and didn't have any conspiracy of any sort around him.

That said, you all, including Paul 'got raped by my truther uncle' Constant just wind up looking too-cool-for-school about everything. That's fine. Keep your noses in the comic books... It's the equivalent of making fun of anyone who wants to know more than you do... and frankly, if I could suspend disbelief long enough to buy into half of this shit, I'd rather be a truther than whatever the hell you guys are... apathetic, maybe... whatever it is... it stinks.
Posted by forego on December 29, 2009 at 4:08 PM
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You have to admit, the 12/25 event was well-timed... The Patriot Act is up for renewal on 12/31 and a fresh brew of terror poured in the mass media mug most certainly discourages any congressional dissenters from speaking out against it.
Posted by hjermsted on December 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM
pissy mcslogbot 12
@10: "In other words, you're passive, inert, and easily led."

and in other words, you're delusional, boring, and grasping for staws
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on December 29, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Beetlecat 13
@11 except for the obvious point that nothing in the patriot act prevented the recent attempt.
Posted by Beetlecat on December 29, 2009 at 5:52 PM
nixontapes 14
@1
The theories don't have to rest on the idea of the government working as a perfect engine. Why couldn't a corrupt official with access to a few million or less be able to hatch an inside job sort of plot? The number of people that had to keep their mouths shut would be a few dozen, not everyone in the government.
Posted by nixontapes on December 29, 2009 at 6:35 PM
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@12, no rebuttal, no point, no nothing. Write something useful to defend yourself or you're basically just proving my point.

If you re-read #6, you'll see he was listing pretty simple facts obtainable by anyone with an internet connection. Until the end, he doesn't leap to any conclusions.

Sure, the conclusions at the end require a leap of logic. It may not be THE answer, but since all we have are hypotheses, there's nothing that makes his argument less valid than your complete lack of an argument, or argument from authority! (...Aside from the Occam's razor argument above. But even Occam's razor requires a leap of faith, and it's misapplied all the time).

So anyway, @12, you're the boring one. And I'd rather be grasping at straws than standing there with my thumb in my ass. You forget that it's the people who actually give a fuck that make this world better. And starting with a hypothesis (as opposed to Paul's immediate acceptance of whatever the news tells him) is how any interesting story breaks. Just because this one's simple doesn't mean they all are.

And Paul, again, you make a dumb post, then disappear. Are you still under the impression that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction? Or has the official story been worn down by 'conspiracy theorists' enough that you can retroactively claim their hard work as your own 'free thought?'

It's weird being on the right side of this argument and watching otherwise intelligent people willingly take such a closed minded, almost republican-like, stance on this.

Isn't it better to just say, 'interesting, but not likely.'? Or is it just because these people actually give a damn? Is that what bothers you? So fucking completely devoid of curiosity that you can't stand to see people exercising their own? I'd pity you, but you sound like dicks.
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Posted by LayBoy on December 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Curmudgeon 16
It's quite the coincidence that Nigeria and Yemen are two of the word's most important marginal producers of petroleum. With OPEC at max, Nigerian production has a big effect on global prices.
Posted by Curmudgeon on December 29, 2009 at 9:56 PM
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The No-Fly list is completely worthless. Up until a few years ago my name was on the list. My name is about as common as John Smith. The odd thing was that I only had police come to check me out at the check-in desk (was not allowed to check-in online) at the JetBlue desk at SeaTac. No other airline or airport. They would look at me and say "nevermind". Eventually, one of the airport police told me they were looking for a 50-year-old black man wanted for tax evasion and child support payments. WTF?

Early on in the No-Fly-List implementation, other agencies thought "Gee... this is a really good way to find non-terrorists as well. Can you add these 1 million names to your database as well as 3 million other names that are similar to their real names? KThxBye!" So the list became statistically useless as it produced too many false positives to be useful. Way to go govt! You get a D- in high school math.

I'm sure the "systemic failure" last week was the result of a flag being raised but was ignored by those in charge of monitoring terrorists because they assumed it was just another false-positive. Too expensive to hold an international flight every time it gets raised, so they probably only do it 5% of the time.

That's my $0.02.
Posted by tacosaladday on December 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM

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