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The End Tweets—Twats?—In Favor of Racial Religious Profiling
Posted by Dan Savage on Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM
The End chimes in on the attempted Christmas Day terrorist attack:
Not all Muslims are terrorists—but nearly all terrorists are Muslims. Time to accept profiling America.
Discuss.
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@1 is correct.
But "start"? Seriously, have a Muslim name at the airport. "Random" checks will get a lot more frequent.
But "start"? Seriously, have a Muslim name at the airport. "Random" checks will get a lot more frequent.
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From a security persepective it's a very bad idea. The less flexible the security system is, the more predictable it is, and consequently less secure. Given finite resources, profiling would commit a large proportion of available resources towards one obvious strategy. That would make the security system more predictable and less secure.
Besides profiling of a sort already occurrs via the various watch-lists. The problem is that we don't have resources to police that very well, and again if we were to go whole-hogg policing watch lists, security would again become more predictable and less secure.
Besides profiling of a sort already occurrs via the various watch-lists. The problem is that we don't have resources to police that very well, and again if we were to go whole-hogg policing watch lists, security would again become more predictable and less secure.
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Agreement with 1, 2, and 3. I'd also add: People will clutch at whatever straw they can to justify bigotry, which is inherently unjustifiable and irrational. Plus, The End hasn't been a good music station in ten years. Were they ever a good news-commentary station? Why are they bothering to babble about this?
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Racial profiling is lame and will not work. Another thing that is getting lame is crossing out words in a headline or sentence. How about a new years resolution for the new decade to leave the crossed out word bit back in the 00s where it belongs.
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Can we just ban 20-something men from travel? That is as accurate as harassing Muslims, so golly, why don't the dicks in charge suggest that?
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Firstly, you can't profile on religion unless you want to start making all the Muslims wear a crescent moon pinned to their clothing or something. None of our standard ID documents include religion anywhere, and anyone, of any nationality or racial background, can be a Muslim.
Profiling on national background isn't a bad idea and, in fact, we already do it--travelers from certain countries such as Syria and Yemen automatically face the highest level of security screening. But racial profiling is a bad security measure because it introduces loopholes. If the terrorists know that Arab-looking people are likely to be subject to additional screening but that white-looking people get a pass, they'll just use their non-Arab recruits to evade the security measures. Remember that shoe-bomber Richard Reid was British. Germaine Lindsay, one of the 7/7 London bombers, was Afro-Caribbean. Concentrating on Arab-looking people makes it more likely that the non-Arab terrorists will get a pass.
Also, of course, the vast majority of Arab travelers are innocent, and we will be subjecting them to discrimination. We regard periods when we did this in the past (e.g. the anti-Japanese measures of World War II) as among the most shameful in our country's history, so we should rightly be wary of going down that road again.
The best form of profiling is *behavioral* profiling -- training security personnel to be alert for people who are acting suspiciously, and giving them the authority and latitude to follow up on their perceptions. See http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/20… for more on the difference between behavioral profiling and racial profiling.
Profiling on national background isn't a bad idea and, in fact, we already do it--travelers from certain countries such as Syria and Yemen automatically face the highest level of security screening. But racial profiling is a bad security measure because it introduces loopholes. If the terrorists know that Arab-looking people are likely to be subject to additional screening but that white-looking people get a pass, they'll just use their non-Arab recruits to evade the security measures. Remember that shoe-bomber Richard Reid was British. Germaine Lindsay, one of the 7/7 London bombers, was Afro-Caribbean. Concentrating on Arab-looking people makes it more likely that the non-Arab terrorists will get a pass.
Also, of course, the vast majority of Arab travelers are innocent, and we will be subjecting them to discrimination. We regard periods when we did this in the past (e.g. the anti-Japanese measures of World War II) as among the most shameful in our country's history, so we should rightly be wary of going down that road again.
The best form of profiling is *behavioral* profiling -- training security personnel to be alert for people who are acting suspiciously, and giving them the authority and latitude to follow up on their perceptions. See http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/20… for more on the difference between behavioral profiling and racial profiling.
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@6 July, 1968. I've flown El Al several times. They're a lot more thorough than racial profiling.
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All Irish should be profiled; to be safe, all Catholics. They were the original modern terrorists. So let's be really safe, and make it all Christians should be cavity searched. When boarding a bus. Or walking on the street.
Makes as much sense as anything else in this argument.
Makes as much sense as anything else in this argument.
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Most domestic terrorist attacks weren't committed by Muslims -- anti-abortion terrorists, Christian anti-semites, neo-Nazis, eco-terrorists, random mass shootings, anti-government, anti-gay, and racist terrorist attacks make up the vast majority. Muslims only commit most terrorist attacks if you are only thinking of "Islamic terrorism" -- duh.
Most Muslims are Asian, but almost all Muslim terrorists are white. Almost all Christian terrorists and eco-terrorists are white, too. The Nigerian and the beltway snipers were exceptions. Nearly 100% of all domestic terrorists are white men (along with a handful of black men), even though white men make up only about 30% of the US population. About half of that 30% are children or the elderly, leaving about 15% of the population committing nearly 100% of terrorist attacks.
If you're going to use logic to profile against someone, profile against 16-55 year old white men. If you don't, it's clearly not about logic, it's about something else...
Most Muslims are Asian, but almost all Muslim terrorists are white. Almost all Christian terrorists and eco-terrorists are white, too. The Nigerian and the beltway snipers were exceptions. Nearly 100% of all domestic terrorists are white men (along with a handful of black men), even though white men make up only about 30% of the US population. About half of that 30% are children or the elderly, leaving about 15% of the population committing nearly 100% of terrorist attacks.
If you're going to use logic to profile against someone, profile against 16-55 year old white men. If you don't, it's clearly not about logic, it's about something else...
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You can't rightly compare profiling Arab-appearing passengers with the Japanese we interned during WWII. None of the Japanese we interned were actively participating in terrorist activities. Arab-appearing people have been doing so. Make a better analogy.
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Israeli's Ambassador to the UN was quoted as saying what The End is referencing. They racially profile as well as behaviorally profile. It's worked for them. Why is this country so goddam uptight about it? Guess it's easy for armchair fliers to be PC.
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First of all, the idea you can profile "Muslims" is just stupid because it's a religion not an ethnicity. What this bozo DJ probably meant was we need to start profiling Arabs, but this guy who tried to blow up a plane wasn't Arab. He was African, and looked pretty much like any Black American would.
So does that mean we profile all brown people? Except that the most populous Muslim nation in the world is Indonesia, and don't forget the Uyghurs, the oppressed Chinese minority. And there are white people in the world who are Muslims, too, lest we forget John Walker Lindh and...you know...Bosnians.
So does that mean we profile all brown people? Except that the most populous Muslim nation in the world is Indonesia, and don't forget the Uyghurs, the oppressed Chinese minority. And there are white people in the world who are Muslims, too, lest we forget John Walker Lindh and...you know...Bosnians.
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You are just going to have to take everything into account. We have the computers to do it. We can centrally process names, age, nationality, religion, past travels and any other flags. We are also going to have to accept intrusive searches. Or don't fly commercial.
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@16 - Because they don't have to deal with an ethnically diverse population. In Israel if you're white, you're probably Jewish, and if you're not, you're probably Muslim. End of questions for them. It doesn't work like that here...
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Americans are obsessed with Islamist terrorists but completely and bizarrely ignore greater threats on these shores--most of whom are "Christian" white men:
Timothy McVeigh
Spokane Eight/Phinneas Priests
Ted Kaczynski
Eric Rudolph
Willie Ray Lampley
David Tate
etc. ad nauseam
Timothy McVeigh
Spokane Eight/Phinneas Priests
Ted Kaczynski
Eric Rudolph
Willie Ray Lampley
David Tate
etc. ad nauseam
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#16: Yep... Israel sure solved that terrorism problem by enacting racial profiling. No terrorism or racial/religious violence in Israel. Well, if you ignore the ridiculously massive amounts of terrorism and racial/religious violence.
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What, are you all high?
We're not supposed to discuss whether racial profiling is a good idea. We're supposed to discuss why FUCKING 107.7 THE END feels obliged to have an opinion on racial profiling in airport security screens. What the fuck? Can The Mountain also give me a recommendation on the next parks levy?
We're not supposed to discuss whether racial profiling is a good idea. We're supposed to discuss why FUCKING 107.7 THE END feels obliged to have an opinion on racial profiling in airport security screens. What the fuck? Can The Mountain also give me a recommendation on the next parks levy?
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@13 - while I understand your point, I am uneasy with using the term "terrorist" for so many different criminal activities. This gives the bonehead government an excuse to set aside a certain type of criminal for special treatment that invariably takes away civil rights from the vast majority of citizens. The Oxymoronic "Patriot Act" is a case in point, and profiling is just another example of using a sledgehammer when a well placed ball peen is all that is needed. I like the idea of behavioral clues, but see some similar problems.
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#25: This is the FBI's definition of terrorism... it makes sense. I listed "random mass murders" as shorthand to mean things like the recent shooting of a church because of its liberal teachings, or the Unabomber. I didn't mean things like Columbine or crazy people randomly shooting up a mall.
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A terrorist incident is a violent act or an act dangerous to human life, in violation of the criminal laws of the United States, or of any state, to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
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A terrorist incident is a violent act or an act dangerous to human life, in violation of the criminal laws of the United States, or of any state, to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
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Well, I wish we would move to the El Al training methodology. It works really well and is indeed profiling. it profiles the actual people who would be likely to try to blow up a plane and keeps them off planes.
Way better than taking off your shoes, and I can only assume taking off your pants nexts and sending them thru the xray. which I plan on doing when I fly the beginning of Jan. Just to be rediculous.
Way better than taking off your shoes, and I can only assume taking off your pants nexts and sending them thru the xray. which I plan on doing when I fly the beginning of Jan. Just to be rediculous.
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Profiling Muslims? Can you tell by looking? Religion has always been and will always be the greatest threat to peace on the planet. Everyone knows this, but most will not admit it.
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Notice the placement of "nearly" in that statement? Change it to "Not all Muslims are terrorists—[and not] all terrorists are Muslims. Time to accept profiling America."
The fallacy of the last sentence becomes far more apparent.
Not all Muslims are terrorists—but nearly all terrorists are Muslims. Time to accept profiling America.
Notice the placement of "nearly" in that statement? Change it to "Not all Muslims are terrorists—[and not] all terrorists are Muslims. Time to accept profiling America."
The fallacy of the last sentence becomes far more apparent.
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@20,
I take it you've never actually been to Israel. Plenty of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East do not look "white."
I take it you've never actually been to Israel. Plenty of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East do not look "white."
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Don't profile them, just make Muslims shit with the doors open. While they squat with their feet on the toilet, we can listen to them curse out the west for inventing sit down toilets, modern hygiene, and flush toilets that don't flush into your drinking water.
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Preventing homos from having sex would stop the spread of AIDS. How serious is the homosexual community about really fighting AIDS?
Preventing homos from having sex would stop the spread of AIDS. How serious is the homosexual community about really fighting AIDS?
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#37: Toooootally. Christian Sub-Saharan Africa and Muslim Southern Asia have ridiculous AIDS epidemics because there's soooo much gay male sex, right?
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In Israel if you're white, you're probably Jewish, and if you're not, you're probably Muslim.
This isn't even remotely true. Many Israeli Jews and Arabs are from the exact same racial background, and many Jews are one of the many different shades of black, especially from places like Yemen.
When you profile by religion, the terrorists will show up in rabbi costumes, like they do in Israel.
The End needs to fire this idiot immediately.
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Thank you, 35. I am very much in favor of the naked requirement, with 36's particular restriction.
I am so please that someone else recognises that the past tense of tweet is twat.
I am so please that someone else recognises that the past tense of tweet is twat.
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#41: Or the anthrax mailer -- "WE HAVE THIS ANTRAX. DEATH TO AMERICA."
He turned out to be a Catholic white guy from suburban Ohio.
He turned out to be a Catholic white guy from suburban Ohio.
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Ironically the only person named on their "Contacts" page is an advertising guy named Houman Aliabadi, which suggests he might possibly be Muslim, or of Muslim heritage at least. I wonder how he feels about being "profiled" by his cow-orkers?
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September 7, 2004
A leading Saudi journalist has caused a stir by launching a scathing attack on Muslim clerics who justify the killing of innocent civilians in the name of jihad, or holy war.
In an editorial on the hostage crisis in Beslan, Abdelrahman al-Rashid, the managing director of the satellite channel al-Arabiya, wrote: "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
He laid the blame for Islamist violence around the world on radical Muslim clerics, whom he accused of hijacking what is essentially a peace-loving and tolerant faith.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3…
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Regarding the predictable mention of Timothy McVeigh, implying he was a "Christian terrorist" counterpart to Islamic terrorists...
In accounts about McVeigh, he was never described as killing out of religious motives. Nor did McVeigh claim to have bombed the federal building out of religious motives. Nor was there any evidence that, at the time of the bombing, he even considered himself a Christian.
Most Muslims are peaceful but there is a rabidly virulent (and violent) streak in Islam that is FAR stronger than any similar streak in Christianity.
As for the suggestion of profiling, here's a good article in the Boston Globe on what El Al does: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editori…
A leading Saudi journalist has caused a stir by launching a scathing attack on Muslim clerics who justify the killing of innocent civilians in the name of jihad, or holy war.
In an editorial on the hostage crisis in Beslan, Abdelrahman al-Rashid, the managing director of the satellite channel al-Arabiya, wrote: "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
He laid the blame for Islamist violence around the world on radical Muslim clerics, whom he accused of hijacking what is essentially a peace-loving and tolerant faith.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3…
_______________________________________________________
Regarding the predictable mention of Timothy McVeigh, implying he was a "Christian terrorist" counterpart to Islamic terrorists...
In accounts about McVeigh, he was never described as killing out of religious motives. Nor did McVeigh claim to have bombed the federal building out of religious motives. Nor was there any evidence that, at the time of the bombing, he even considered himself a Christian.
Most Muslims are peaceful but there is a rabidly virulent (and violent) streak in Islam that is FAR stronger than any similar streak in Christianity.
As for the suggestion of profiling, here's a good article in the Boston Globe on what El Al does: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editori…
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Yes, because it was racial profiling that stopped Anne Mary Murphy for carrying the bomb for her boyfriend Nezar Hindawi.
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Not all alternative rock listeners are school shooters, but nearly all school shooters listen to alternative rock.
All Seattle schools should immediately send all 107.7 The End listeners to the principals office daily for questioning, screening, and checks for unusual behavior.
The St. Benedict Catholic School has done this and they haven had a school shooting in 30 years!
All Seattle schools should immediately send all 107.7 The End listeners to the principals office daily for questioning, screening, and checks for unusual behavior.
The St. Benedict Catholic School has done this and they haven had a school shooting in 30 years!
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Aside from the obvious bigotry, this makes no kind of sense. First of all, the premise of the statement is false. Then you have the fact that even if the premise was true (which it isn't), profiling is ineffective and just creates opportunities for terrorists. Once it becomes clear which groups aren't people of interest, there's a gaping hole in our security defenses.
Bigoted, stupid, and dangerous.
Bigoted, stupid, and dangerous.
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"most of whom are "Christian" white men"
Some CWM may want to deny you the right to marry; these Islamic nuts would feed gays into a meat grinder with your cocks severed for later display.
See the difference?
Some CWM may want to deny you the right to marry; these Islamic nuts would feed gays into a meat grinder with your cocks severed for later display.
See the difference?
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@38
59% of all new AIDS cases in America are homosexual men. (who are only 1.7% of the population)
A vast majority of the other 41% have a homosexual once or twice removed from the proximate route of infection (in other words, a woman contracts it from her partner through heterosexual activity, He contracted it through homosexual behavior before passing it on to her)
Unless unprotected promiscuous anal sex is a new religion your snarky moniker is inaccurate.
59% of all new AIDS cases in America are homosexual men. (who are only 1.7% of the population)
A vast majority of the other 41% have a homosexual once or twice removed from the proximate route of infection (in other words, a woman contracts it from her partner through heterosexual activity, He contracted it through homosexual behavior before passing it on to her)
Unless unprotected promiscuous anal sex is a new religion your snarky moniker is inaccurate.
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I would suggest a threefold security strategy:
- Foreign policy consisting of minding our own gawddamned business ("Think Swedish!").
- Accepting some of the inherent risk of hurtling through the air in an aluminum tube full of potentially crazy strangers, rather than making pointless and cowardly modifications to the security circus each time something almost happens.
- Development of kick-ass technology that eliminates inconvenience. Sniffers surrounding airport walkways that screen for chemicals, full-body x-ray that doesn't require people to stop moving. No more checkpoints. Invisible, effortless, and unsatisfying to people who want to control us.
Instead, we'll just be as white as possible and keep our hands visible for the last hour of our flights. Great plan.
- Foreign policy consisting of minding our own gawddamned business ("Think Swedish!").
- Accepting some of the inherent risk of hurtling through the air in an aluminum tube full of potentially crazy strangers, rather than making pointless and cowardly modifications to the security circus each time something almost happens.
- Development of kick-ass technology that eliminates inconvenience. Sniffers surrounding airport walkways that screen for chemicals, full-body x-ray that doesn't require people to stop moving. No more checkpoints. Invisible, effortless, and unsatisfying to people who want to control us.
Instead, we'll just be as white as possible and keep our hands visible for the last hour of our flights. Great plan.
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Don't feed the Entercom troll. It's obviously someone test-driving 'alternative' discussions to see what type of market pull they will have with a hot issue.
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@49 You are stupid or a liar. Women and children exist in Africa, and they account for more than zero AIDS cases. And fuck you.
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They exist.
And get AIDS.
And not far up the trail of infection there is a homosexual who gave AIDS to the person that gave it to them.
They exist.
And get AIDS.
And not far up the trail of infection there is a homosexual who gave AIDS to the person that gave it to them.
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48/Lovely Linda: "Some CWM may want to deny you the right to marry; these Islamic nuts would feed gays into a meat grinder with your cocks severed for later display. See the difference?"
Many people, unfortunately, don't. They insist on an equivalence between Christian fundamentalists and Islamic fundamentalists.
Remember the photograph "Piss Christ" by Andres Serrano? It prompted a huge outcry among Christians and I'm sure that Serrano received some death threats. But he wasn't murdered and, to my knowledge, there was no attempt on his life. Had Serrano been living in a Muslim country and done "Piss Muhammed" he would be a dead man.
Many people, unfortunately, don't. They insist on an equivalence between Christian fundamentalists and Islamic fundamentalists.
Remember the photograph "Piss Christ" by Andres Serrano? It prompted a huge outcry among Christians and I'm sure that Serrano received some death threats. But he wasn't murdered and, to my knowledge, there was no attempt on his life. Had Serrano been living in a Muslim country and done "Piss Muhammed" he would be a dead man.
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#55: In Swaziland, a whopping 56% of women age 25-29 have HIV/AIDS. Male homosexual sex is punishable by two years in jail there. But - whoops! - condom use is taboo there and the Catholic/Protestant churches there encourage every woman to have at least five children. But it totally must be the gaysex!
In Jamaica, 1.5% of the population has HIV/AIDS (about 8x as much as the United States). In Jamaica, a gay couple will be publicly beaten and often killed. Young women have 2.9x the prevalence of HIV/AIDS as young men. The Christian majority country encourages abstinence to fight HIV. But it totally must be the gaysex!
In Jamaica, 1.5% of the population has HIV/AIDS (about 8x as much as the United States). In Jamaica, a gay couple will be publicly beaten and often killed. Young women have 2.9x the prevalence of HIV/AIDS as young men. The Christian majority country encourages abstinence to fight HIV. But it totally must be the gaysex!
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@55: Because once a gay gives your "straight" ass AIDS, you're no longer responsible for your sexual behavior. Gay people are to blame when a man gives a woman AIDS! AWESOME LOGIC
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I used to listen to 107.7 back in 1991.
It was great to listen to hardcore alternative with almost no commercials (and a deejay who sounded like he started work after clubbing until 3am) while driving across the 520 bridge to Microsoft at 7:30am in the morning in the misty rain.
Back then there were no cars, and only a few buildings, in Redmond.
I used to listen to 107.7 back in 1991.
It was great to listen to hardcore alternative with almost no commercials (and a deejay who sounded like he started work after clubbing until 3am) while driving across the 520 bridge to Microsoft at 7:30am in the morning in the misty rain.
Back then there were no cars, and only a few buildings, in Redmond.
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Let's assume for a moment that this is true--although it's not; turn the tables: would we even be considering this if most of terrorists in America were Jewish? What about Christian? Most serial killers are white males between 20 and 40 years of age--yet we never seem to consider profiling that demographic.
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#60: To be fair, we wouldn't hesitate to profile for a second if most terrorists were Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, Inuit, Haitian, Sikh, Cherokee, Ecuadorian, Filipino, Zoroastrian, or Ugandan Zionist.
I wonder why that is?
I wonder why that is?
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When a man contracts AIDS through homosexual acts then passes it on to his unsuspecting wife through heterosexual sex who is responsible?
The wife?
Certainly not the hallowed Gay!
And when his now pregnant wife inadvertently passes the virus to her baby at delivery who is at fault?
Well the baby, of course...
not his downlow father!
And when a homosexual man contracts AIDS and then shares needles with other IV drug users and infects them who should we blame?
The damn junkies, naturally.
They should have known....
AWESOMER LOGIC!!
When a man contracts AIDS through homosexual acts then passes it on to his unsuspecting wife through heterosexual sex who is responsible?
The wife?
Certainly not the hallowed Gay!
And when his now pregnant wife inadvertently passes the virus to her baby at delivery who is at fault?
Well the baby, of course...
not his downlow father!
And when a homosexual man contracts AIDS and then shares needles with other IV drug users and infects them who should we blame?
The damn junkies, naturally.
They should have known....
AWESOMER LOGIC!!
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"Had Serrano been living in a Muslim country and done "Piss Muhammed" he would be a dead man. "
Executed by the State most likely....
Executed by the State most likely....
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62:
Sooooo... you're saying it's the wife's fault for having heterosexual sex and then passing it on to her baby and her junky friends and her boyfriend and her boyfriend's gay lovers? WTF, why do you hate heterosex so much?
Sooooo... you're saying it's the wife's fault for having heterosexual sex and then passing it on to her baby and her junky friends and her boyfriend and her boyfriend's gay lovers? WTF, why do you hate heterosex so much?
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I'll do you one better, because it has absolutely nothing to do with what religion you are, but religion itself is the problem. They are all sold this idea of an afterlife if only they prove themselves, they've been brainwashed to think they need to aspire to something and it just so happened that some of them believe in the dream a little too much.
Now, if we're going to start profiling Muslims, well, it won't effect me and it probably won't help. If you really want to profile a group to insure this doesn't happen again we're going to have to start kicking people off planes because of their believe in ANY god. Now, I'd not really care, being 'devoid' of faith and all, Christians are just as brainwashed as Muslims and will kill in the name of their go if they so choose. I'm not going to feel safe flying with anyone but of only my own religion, and my own skin color, and my own sex, and my own bad eye sight.
I doubt this is a real idea floating around in any brain that's currently functioning. To give up religion to the state as an avenue to which it can lock you up for, that just means the terrorists win. Only 2 things have kept us safer after 9/11, reinforced cockpit doors and the fact that passengers are more aware of these kinds of things. Religious screening is not likely to help this....
Now, if we're going to start profiling Muslims, well, it won't effect me and it probably won't help. If you really want to profile a group to insure this doesn't happen again we're going to have to start kicking people off planes because of their believe in ANY god. Now, I'd not really care, being 'devoid' of faith and all, Christians are just as brainwashed as Muslims and will kill in the name of their go if they so choose. I'm not going to feel safe flying with anyone but of only my own religion, and my own skin color, and my own sex, and my own bad eye sight.
I doubt this is a real idea floating around in any brain that's currently functioning. To give up religion to the state as an avenue to which it can lock you up for, that just means the terrorists win. Only 2 things have kept us safer after 9/11, reinforced cockpit doors and the fact that passengers are more aware of these kinds of things. Religious screening is not likely to help this....
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actually narrow minded douchebags are pretty much responsible for 100 % of all terrorists acts so I think we should start profiling more people from "the end" along side the rest of the lot of fanatics.
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Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:(per freerepublic.com)
* One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3)
* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7)
* Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16)
* Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27)
* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27)
* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13)
* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)
* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20)
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, “Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities” (10)
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, “30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals” (10)
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, “Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person” (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10)
* Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8)
* 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report “queer bashing” involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18)
* About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).
Homosexuals prey on children.
* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)
* There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: “The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality” (22)
* Because homosexuals can’t reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting “TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT” in their homosexual parades. A group called the “Lesbian Avengers” prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print “WE RECRUIT” on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren’t as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.
The homosexual agenda.
* The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: “The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights.....To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games....At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing...then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won” (25)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: “We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right — as heterosexual Americans already have — to see government and society affirm our lives” (27)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: “The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (1)
* Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, “We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness” (17).
The true number of homosexuals.
* The Kinsey study of 1948, which homosexuals often cite to say that 10% of the population is homosexual, actually says that only 4% of the population is EXCLUSIVELY homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Kinsey also did perverse studies involving young boys and pedophiles. Information on Kinsey
* Current research shows that the true percentage of homosexuals is in the 1-2% range (15,23,26,28). Consider how small this number is when compared to most of the numbers above.
Homosexuals aren’t discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class?
* The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24)
* 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren’t smart enough to listen to God. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools” (Romans 1:22)
* 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where’s the job discrimination?
Sexual Orientation
• A phrase that has come up recently in this earth is “sexual orientation.” This is a phrase made up by homosexuals to try to make themselves look less filthy than they really are. The purpose of the phrase is to take the spotlight from what these perverts do, and put it on the notion that they are just poor, mistreated people, who simply are attracted to members of the same sex - as if they aren’t engaging in activity forbidden by God Almighty. “Sexual orientation,” as used today, has nothing to do with sexual activity (yeah, right), but only refers to who or what a particular person is attracted to. If you think that people of other “sexual orientations” are just fine, let’s see what other “sexual orientations” you would necessarily have to accept as wholesome and pure. If you’re not going to discriminate based on “sexual orientation”, then you must not discriminate against any of the following. Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism. If you discriminate against any of these, you’re a hypocrite. These “sexual orientations” are generally known as “paraphilias”, and are mental disorders - just like homosexuality used to be (29).
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REFERENCES
(1) Advocate, 1985
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299
(5) “Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. “Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men.” New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE
(8) Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275
(10) Kaifetz, J. “Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,” Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992
(11) Kus, R. “Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America.” Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. “Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens.” J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. “AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco.” Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96
(17) Newsweek, February 1993
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37
(20) Rueda, E. “The Homosexual Network.” Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, “Can We Talk.” (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990
(25) “The Overhauling of Straight America.” Guide Magazine. November, 1987
(26) United States Census Bureau (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989
(28) University of Chicago’s Nation Research Corp
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.
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* One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3)
* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7)
* Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16)
* Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27)
* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27)
* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13)
* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)
* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20)
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, “Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities” (10)
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, “30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals” (10)
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, “Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person” (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10)
* Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8)
* 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report “queer bashing” involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18)
* About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).
Homosexuals prey on children.
* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)
* There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: “The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality” (22)
* Because homosexuals can’t reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting “TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT” in their homosexual parades. A group called the “Lesbian Avengers” prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print “WE RECRUIT” on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren’t as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.
The homosexual agenda.
* The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: “The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights.....To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games....At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing...then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won” (25)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: “We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right — as heterosexual Americans already have — to see government and society affirm our lives” (27)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: “The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (1)
* Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, “We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness” (17).
The true number of homosexuals.
* The Kinsey study of 1948, which homosexuals often cite to say that 10% of the population is homosexual, actually says that only 4% of the population is EXCLUSIVELY homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Kinsey also did perverse studies involving young boys and pedophiles. Information on Kinsey
* Current research shows that the true percentage of homosexuals is in the 1-2% range (15,23,26,28). Consider how small this number is when compared to most of the numbers above.
Homosexuals aren’t discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class?
* The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24)
* 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren’t smart enough to listen to God. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools” (Romans 1:22)
* 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where’s the job discrimination?
Sexual Orientation
• A phrase that has come up recently in this earth is “sexual orientation.” This is a phrase made up by homosexuals to try to make themselves look less filthy than they really are. The purpose of the phrase is to take the spotlight from what these perverts do, and put it on the notion that they are just poor, mistreated people, who simply are attracted to members of the same sex - as if they aren’t engaging in activity forbidden by God Almighty. “Sexual orientation,” as used today, has nothing to do with sexual activity (yeah, right), but only refers to who or what a particular person is attracted to. If you think that people of other “sexual orientations” are just fine, let’s see what other “sexual orientations” you would necessarily have to accept as wholesome and pure. If you’re not going to discriminate based on “sexual orientation”, then you must not discriminate against any of the following. Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism. If you discriminate against any of these, you’re a hypocrite. These “sexual orientations” are generally known as “paraphilias”, and are mental disorders - just like homosexuality used to be (29).
•
REFERENCES
(1) Advocate, 1985
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299
(5) “Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. “Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men.” New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE
(8) Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275
(10) Kaifetz, J. “Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,” Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992
(11) Kus, R. “Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America.” Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. “Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens.” J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. “AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco.” Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96
(17) Newsweek, February 1993
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37
(20) Rueda, E. “The Homosexual Network.” Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, “Can We Talk.” (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990
(25) “The Overhauling of Straight America.” Guide Magazine. November, 1987
(26) United States Census Bureau (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989
(28) University of Chicago’s Nation Research Corp
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.
© 2000- 2003 International Organization of Heterosexual Rights
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lol @ those making Christian/Muslim equivalency arguments
may as well just close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and scream LA LA LA LA really loud, it's the same thing
may as well just close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and scream LA LA LA LA really loud, it's the same thing
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@56 - Remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Roede…
In fact, Lovely Linda, I do recognize the difference: Some Christian White Males are actively denying gays the right to marry in this country, while some hypothetical Islamic Nuts would "feed gays into a meat grinder with [their] cocks severed for later display," if they had the chance, which they never will in this country.
The Christians are clearly a more pressing issue than the Islamic Nuts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Roede…
In fact, Lovely Linda, I do recognize the difference: Some Christian White Males are actively denying gays the right to marry in this country, while some hypothetical Islamic Nuts would "feed gays into a meat grinder with [their] cocks severed for later display," if they had the chance, which they never will in this country.
The Christians are clearly a more pressing issue than the Islamic Nuts.
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Glad to see that others have already pointed out that Israeli demographics are a bit more complicated than white/everything else. But it also needs to be said that the famous El Al screening process is insanely thorough, regardless of your background (though I'm sure it's worse for those of certain backgrounds). I speak Hebrew, have been to Israel several times, am Jewish and a U.S. citizen, and it's still 20 minutes (or more) of pointed questions every time. We don't have anything close to the financial resources to do that for every flight over here, or if we do, we're not spending it on airport security.
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Let's take a global census of major terrorist attacks in the last 50 years, say, and see what fractions of the total were orchestrated/carried out by Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc., and see which religions have the most major terrorist attacks to their name per capita. I don't have the time or, frankly, the inclination to do so, but if anyone has an hour or five to blow, go right ahead and dredge up the information. My prediction is Christianity will have the most and Buddhists the least, of major world religions.
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@67
If you took a college course in your lifetime, you would know that citing statistics that are not from a scientific or government source (i.e. a .gov, .edu, or an article that references an organization such as the American Psychological Association) makes you look like a gullible uneducated idiot.
Also, that fantastic citation you have from AP comparing homosexuality to pedophilia is inaccurate...homosexuality was removed as a disorder well before the DSM-IV was published, which was when the stipulation about "distress'' in reference to pedophilia was added. This was then removed in the DSM-IV-TR when either "distress" OR "acting upon pedophilia related desires" became the symptoms necesary for diagnosing the pedophilia.
If you took a college course in your lifetime, you would know that citing statistics that are not from a scientific or government source (i.e. a .gov, .edu, or an article that references an organization such as the American Psychological Association) makes you look like a gullible uneducated idiot.
Also, that fantastic citation you have from AP comparing homosexuality to pedophilia is inaccurate...homosexuality was removed as a disorder well before the DSM-IV was published, which was when the stipulation about "distress'' in reference to pedophilia was added. This was then removed in the DSM-IV-TR when either "distress" OR "acting upon pedophilia related desires" became the symptoms necesary for diagnosing the pedophilia.
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@67 again
specifically,
I have no fucking idea where you got your information from, but since young men and women (boys and girls) of the age that can be considered "molestation victims" are equally likely of being victims of molestation, and the vast majority of molestations are committed by men, your logic that the majority of molestations are committed by homosexuals is flawed.
specifically,
I have no fucking idea where you got your information from, but since young men and women (boys and girls) of the age that can be considered "molestation victims" are equally likely of being victims of molestation, and the vast majority of molestations are committed by men, your logic that the majority of molestations are committed by homosexuals is flawed.
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In other racial profiling news, does Loveschild's kwanzaa avatar mean he/she is black? Argh. This is gonna set gay/black relations back yet another 20 years. I'm just gonna go ahead and appoint, say, Baconcat, Elenchos, and Kim in Portland as black too, just to even things out. Try to post something civil rights-y or make a reference to a black hair product once in a while to stay in character.
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#71/Christampa: "@56 - Remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Roede…"
You moral-equivalency types just love Scott Roeder, don't you? Islamic terrorists murder 3,000 Americans but, to you, Christian terrorists are just as bad because they murder a couple of doctors who do abortions. Islamic terrorists try to blow up planes full of people in December 2001 and again in December 2009 but, to you, Christian terrorists are just as bad because they murder a couple of doctors who do abortions. Islamic terrorists could detonate a nuclear bomb in San Francisco, killing 50,000 (or more people) and you'd bring up Scott Roeder.
"The Christians are clearly a more pressing issue than the Islamic Nuts"
For gays and lesbians in the U.S., yes. Muslims don't have significant enough numbers yet. Plus, Muslims who choose to come to the U.S. may be more moderate-to-liberal than their brethren in the Middle East, Africa, Indonesia and elsewhere. (Just the same, I woudn't be surprised if a greater percentage of Muslims than Christians voted in favor of California's Proposition 8.)
But for gays and lesbians, and straight women, in the world, Islam is much more repressive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Roede…"
You moral-equivalency types just love Scott Roeder, don't you? Islamic terrorists murder 3,000 Americans but, to you, Christian terrorists are just as bad because they murder a couple of doctors who do abortions. Islamic terrorists try to blow up planes full of people in December 2001 and again in December 2009 but, to you, Christian terrorists are just as bad because they murder a couple of doctors who do abortions. Islamic terrorists could detonate a nuclear bomb in San Francisco, killing 50,000 (or more people) and you'd bring up Scott Roeder.
"The Christians are clearly a more pressing issue than the Islamic Nuts"
For gays and lesbians in the U.S., yes. Muslims don't have significant enough numbers yet. Plus, Muslims who choose to come to the U.S. may be more moderate-to-liberal than their brethren in the Middle East, Africa, Indonesia and elsewhere. (Just the same, I woudn't be surprised if a greater percentage of Muslims than Christians voted in favor of California's Proposition 8.)
But for gays and lesbians, and straight women, in the world, Islam is much more repressive.
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This has probably already been pointed out, but the US has been hit by FAR more domestic terrorist attacks (number of attacks, though the death toll in the 2001 WTC airplane strikes outweighs the total for domestic attacks alone) in the last ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, etc. years than foreign ones. Abortion clinic bombings and doctor assassinations, presidential assassinations and attempts, school bombings/shootings, anti-gay attacks, radical right and radical left bombings, etc. are all violent attacks against civilians that use fear to attempt to change behavior/policy. Of course, "terrorism" is an ill-defined, politically-loaded word. Governments have a tendency to label any anti-state violence terrorism, activist groups label anti-them violence terrorism, Noam Chomsky labels all US military action terrorism, etc.
But all that is beside the point, because I take the position that IT IS PREFERABLE TO HAVE A FEW PLANES OUT OF EVERY MILLION CRASHED/BLOWN-UP/HIJACKED IF IT MEANS LIVING IN A FREE AND OPEN SOCIETY. As much as we may not like it, "terrorist" acts are an inevitable consequence of having a free society in a world with such vast differences in quality-of-life between the global north and south, rich and poor, light- and dark-skinned, and in a world where at least 80% of people think there's an omniscient force guiding their actions and looking out for them personally. We COULD be like Israel and institute an actual police state, complete with constant martial law and a suspension of habeas corpus (and we've certainly been moving that way), but would that really be a preferable way to live? Do you want it to become common practice for TSA officials to fire rifles into laptops they suspect might be bombs? Should having the (in my mind justifiable opinion) that our country's society and governance took a sharp wrong turn about thirty years ago subject one to additional hours of screening when traveling, because one "hates America" (apparently hating corporate favoritism, political corruption, state-enactment of religious doctrine, institutionalized religion, antiquated drug laws, erosion of civil liberties, and classist/heterosexist/racist policies counts as "hating America")? What exactly is the point of securing the lives of our citizenry if in doing so we deny people the right to live those lives in a free manner? And why is it that the "small government" "Republicans" are the ones constantly trying to expand government invasions of privacy and relaxation of constitutional protections for our rights and liberties? It's a strange world when self-described Libertarians are advocating torture, abortion bans, gay-marriage bans, and expansion of our governments powers concerning monitoring and detaining people without the need to show just cause.
Life carries an extreme risk of death; the only way to guarantee you won't die is to already be dead. Securing life at the cost of the ability to live as we please is not worth it, is never worth it. If you're that scared, stay in your damn house, never drive (especially on the highway), don't use any recreational drugs (legal or not), stock-up on the smoke and CO detectors, hire a private security firm to watch your house, never have sex, have no friends nor family (far more likely to attack/kill/rape you than a stranger), and live like a crazy fucking hermit. Or don't, and stop trying to subject all of us in the real world to policy based on knee-jerk terrified reactions to terrorism ('cause, gee, that's exactly what the aim is...).
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But all that is beside the point, because I take the position that IT IS PREFERABLE TO HAVE A FEW PLANES OUT OF EVERY MILLION CRASHED/BLOWN-UP/HIJACKED IF IT MEANS LIVING IN A FREE AND OPEN SOCIETY. As much as we may not like it, "terrorist" acts are an inevitable consequence of having a free society in a world with such vast differences in quality-of-life between the global north and south, rich and poor, light- and dark-skinned, and in a world where at least 80% of people think there's an omniscient force guiding their actions and looking out for them personally. We COULD be like Israel and institute an actual police state, complete with constant martial law and a suspension of habeas corpus (and we've certainly been moving that way), but would that really be a preferable way to live? Do you want it to become common practice for TSA officials to fire rifles into laptops they suspect might be bombs? Should having the (in my mind justifiable opinion) that our country's society and governance took a sharp wrong turn about thirty years ago subject one to additional hours of screening when traveling, because one "hates America" (apparently hating corporate favoritism, political corruption, state-enactment of religious doctrine, institutionalized religion, antiquated drug laws, erosion of civil liberties, and classist/heterosexist/racist policies counts as "hating America")? What exactly is the point of securing the lives of our citizenry if in doing so we deny people the right to live those lives in a free manner? And why is it that the "small government" "Republicans" are the ones constantly trying to expand government invasions of privacy and relaxation of constitutional protections for our rights and liberties? It's a strange world when self-described Libertarians are advocating torture, abortion bans, gay-marriage bans, and expansion of our governments powers concerning monitoring and detaining people without the need to show just cause.
Life carries an extreme risk of death; the only way to guarantee you won't die is to already be dead. Securing life at the cost of the ability to live as we please is not worth it, is never worth it. If you're that scared, stay in your damn house, never drive (especially on the highway), don't use any recreational drugs (legal or not), stock-up on the smoke and CO detectors, hire a private security firm to watch your house, never have sex, have no friends nor family (far more likely to attack/kill/rape you than a stranger), and live like a crazy fucking hermit. Or don't, and stop trying to subject all of us in the real world to policy based on knee-jerk terrified reactions to terrorism ('cause, gee, that's exactly what the aim is...).
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Last night our twitter account was hacked. Some ignorant ass thought it would be funny to send racial charged tweets from our account. There is NO way anyone from this station would have posted anything along these lines.
1) THERE IS NO ONE HERE! Everyone is out this week for the holiday's. We are running a "Best of Decade" special all week long.
2) We aren't that kind of radio station. Why would a mainstream rock radio station, who focuses on SOLELY on music and pop culture, send out anything along these lines EVER? Especially in SEATTLE! It wouldn't happen. It doesn't make any sense.
We are a media outlet (like The Stranger, The Times etc), which makes us a target for these sort of things from these sorts of people. Unfortunately, this time it was our turn.
We have deleted all of these posts and are taking security measures so this doesn't happen again.
If anyone disagree's and would like to discuss furthur the possibility that this is a massive cover up of a underlying political movement from a commercial radio station in Seattle to promote racism and racial profiling a couple days after Christmas (because that is likely?)...then feel free to get in touch.
Andrew Harms
APD
KNDD 1077 The End
aharms@entercom.com
1) THERE IS NO ONE HERE! Everyone is out this week for the holiday's. We are running a "Best of Decade" special all week long.
2) We aren't that kind of radio station. Why would a mainstream rock radio station, who focuses on SOLELY on music and pop culture, send out anything along these lines EVER? Especially in SEATTLE! It wouldn't happen. It doesn't make any sense.
We are a media outlet (like The Stranger, The Times etc), which makes us a target for these sort of things from these sorts of people. Unfortunately, this time it was our turn.
We have deleted all of these posts and are taking security measures so this doesn't happen again.
If anyone disagree's and would like to discuss furthur the possibility that this is a massive cover up of a underlying political movement from a commercial radio station in Seattle to promote racism and racial profiling a couple days after Christmas (because that is likely?)...then feel free to get in touch.
Andrew Harms
APD
KNDD 1077 The End
aharms@entercom.com
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RE: El Al- They don't profile, the screen the shit out of everyone. Why? Because in Israel terrorists learned pretty quick that you dress and act like your victims to get close.
RE: Teh-Ghey-sex-making-everybody-get-teh-Hiv-Troll. You can hit this guy will all the facts and logic you like, he'll never admit that heterosexuals account for most of the worlds AIDS cases, that heterosexuals started the plague in Africa (catching it from monkeys they were slaughtering for food) and heterosexuals continue to carry and spread the disease. He's got his bias, and it's much more important to him than reality.
RE: Teh-Ghey-sex-making-everybody-get-teh-Hiv-Troll. You can hit this guy will all the facts and logic you like, he'll never admit that heterosexuals account for most of the worlds AIDS cases, that heterosexuals started the plague in Africa (catching it from monkeys they were slaughtering for food) and heterosexuals continue to carry and spread the disease. He's got his bias, and it's much more important to him than reality.
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"Noam Chomsky labels all US military action terrorism, etc."
Chomsky's a good comedian but George Carlin and Richard Pryor are much funnier.
Chomsky's a good comedian but George Carlin and Richard Pryor are much funnier.
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and yet....
in the United States
homosexual men
(1.7% of the population)
are 59% of ALL
new AIDS cases.
that's your "reality", Dwight.
After 25 years of education.
and "outreach".
Why is that, Dwight?
hit me with some facts and logic-
Are homosexuals really really slow learners?
Are they Stupid?
Do they just not give a Flying Fuck?
Does homosexuality cause AIDS?
What is it, Dwight?
and yet....
in the United States
homosexual men
(1.7% of the population)
are 59% of ALL
new AIDS cases.
that's your "reality", Dwight.
After 25 years of education.
and "outreach".
Why is that, Dwight?
hit me with some facts and logic-
Are homosexuals really really slow learners?
Are they Stupid?
Do they just not give a Flying Fuck?
Does homosexuality cause AIDS?
What is it, Dwight?
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@81
59%
Sadly, Dwight, here in educated enlightened progressive Seattle it is even worse-
(from SeattlePI)
"Despite education and outreach efforts, the number of gay men contracting HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases has been increasing for much of this decade.
"Incidents of sexually transmitted diseases like Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and Syphilis among men who have sex with men (MSM) have risen to levels not previously seen since the early- to mid-1980s, according to a report presented to the King County health board last week.
"In 2005-06, for example, there were more than 1,200 cases of gonorrhea in this group, according to the report - the most cases since 1981-1982. In 2007-2008 there were almost 400 cases of syphilis in the MSM group - and incidents of this disease in the past several years have been the highest the health department has seen in almost 30 years."
59%
Sadly, Dwight, here in educated enlightened progressive Seattle it is even worse-
(from SeattlePI)
"Despite education and outreach efforts, the number of gay men contracting HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases has been increasing for much of this decade.
"Incidents of sexually transmitted diseases like Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and Syphilis among men who have sex with men (MSM) have risen to levels not previously seen since the early- to mid-1980s, according to a report presented to the King County health board last week.
"In 2005-06, for example, there were more than 1,200 cases of gonorrhea in this group, according to the report - the most cases since 1981-1982. In 2007-2008 there were almost 400 cases of syphilis in the MSM group - and incidents of this disease in the past several years have been the highest the health department has seen in almost 30 years."
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@81
It's the Heteros fault, isn't it Dwight....
From SeattlePI
"HIV diagnoses among homosexual men has been increasing about 8 percent a year since 2001 - while the number of HIV cases due to high-risk heterosexual contact and injection drug use has been consistent or DROPPING during that period, according to the Public Health report.
"Wood said the increase in sexually transmitted diseases among men who have sex with men has happened even though the county has outreach programs in place.
"We've got a problem with risk behavior continuing to occur despite all of the efforts that we've put into it ," Wood said."
It's the Heteros fault, isn't it Dwight....
From SeattlePI
"HIV diagnoses among homosexual men has been increasing about 8 percent a year since 2001 - while the number of HIV cases due to high-risk heterosexual contact and injection drug use has been consistent or DROPPING during that period, according to the Public Health report.
"Wood said the increase in sexually transmitted diseases among men who have sex with men has happened even though the county has outreach programs in place.
"We've got a problem with risk behavior continuing to occur despite all of the efforts that we've put into it ," Wood said."
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If you live in the Bible Belt and are familiar with a little organization known as the Klu Klux Klan, you know better than to assume that "all terrorists are Muslims." Some, it appears, are southern baptists.
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@OMG-TEH-GAYS-TEH-HIV troll:
Why three responses? Can't you fit all your cherry picked facts into one post? Do you just feel like a team when you post more than one time?
No one is disputed that the gay male community has an HIV epidemic. That is a fact that no one denies. It's just everything you infer from that is wrong, and that has been pointed out to you a zillion times and you don't care. Which is why your fiery death would improve the world a lot.
Why three responses? Can't you fit all your cherry picked facts into one post? Do you just feel like a team when you post more than one time?
No one is disputed that the gay male community has an HIV epidemic. That is a fact that no one denies. It's just everything you infer from that is wrong, and that has been pointed out to you a zillion times and you don't care. Which is why your fiery death would improve the world a lot.
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@88 First off, the Klan is dead. Has been for a while. It's membership base only exists on paper, and half of those are FBI informants! (and the other half SPLC informants ;))
Secondly, tying it to 'The Bible Belt' is about 120 years out of date. The First Klan, or Southern Klan, or NBFs whatever you want to call it, was the only one based in the South. The Second Klan, while started by two men in Atlanta (after watching The Birth of a Nation) was a national organization with it's largest membership base being located in the Mid West (I believe it was Nebraska that elected the openly Klan governor, but don't quote me on that).
Secondly, tying it to 'The Bible Belt' is about 120 years out of date. The First Klan, or Southern Klan, or NBFs whatever you want to call it, was the only one based in the South. The Second Klan, while started by two men in Atlanta (after watching The Birth of a Nation) was a national organization with it's largest membership base being located in the Mid West (I believe it was Nebraska that elected the openly Klan governor, but don't quote me on that).
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@89
What exactly do we infer, Dwight?
What do YOU infer?
What does Africa have to do with anything?
Please, serve up some facts and logic!
What exactly do we infer, Dwight?
What do YOU infer?
What does Africa have to do with anything?
Please, serve up some facts and logic!
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We(plural, everyone else besides you(singular)) infer that AIDS is a problem for many people, and not just gays. We also infer that you're part of the problem more than any individual gay person, because you're branding AIDS as a disease that only gay people or people who touch gay people get.
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Africa has to do with AIDS. AIDS is what you're discussing. Africa saw the birth of AIDS, and will see it's final death. It is (perhaps!) relevant to the conversation.
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Here's a fact, that also includes logic: AIDS was not a test run. There will be no disease that gay people bring about that is airborne, flesh-eating, antibiotic resistant, and whatever other stupid bullshit you believe. That is not how viruses work, that's not how AIDS works, and that's not how anything ever works.
Another fact: Statistics is Mathematics, not a Science. Mathematics are the one true thing in the Universe. And they are almost always meaningless without the context that Science gives. Context that you ignore. Ignorance that is the foundation of your argument. And your argument, which is that gay people should stop having sex, that we should kill all gay people, that gay people are an abomination, that gay people damage the structure of society, that gay sex should be illegal because it is potentially dangerous, that gay marriage should be illegal because gay sex is dangerous, and all the other stupid bullshit you believe is wrong.
Another fact: Statistics is Mathematics, not a Science. Mathematics are the one true thing in the Universe. And they are almost always meaningless without the context that Science gives. Context that you ignore. Ignorance that is the foundation of your argument. And your argument, which is that gay people should stop having sex, that we should kill all gay people, that gay people are an abomination, that gay people damage the structure of society, that gay sex should be illegal because it is potentially dangerous, that gay marriage should be illegal because gay sex is dangerous, and all the other stupid bullshit you believe is wrong.
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You're an idiot @91, et al, is what I'm trying to say. Because I don't want my conclusion to be vague like you want yours to be. I want you to know that my reason for posting is that you are an idiot. That is the conclusion that my post supports.
Do you want to share your conclusion, since you're so smug that nobody knows it?
Do you want to share your conclusion, since you're so smug that nobody knows it?
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Oh, also, Ron Paul is a fucking idiot and will never do anything good for society besides die alone. Which he will do. Soon.
And Rand Paul will kill himself shortly afterward, because he's a stupid pussy who's nothing without his stupid pussy father and he knows it.
And Rand Paul will kill himself shortly afterward, because he's a stupid pussy who's nothing without his stupid pussy father and he knows it.
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@95
Oh my!
Don't look now....
(from the BBC)
DEADLY NEW FORM OF MRSA EMERGES
"A deadly strain of the superbug MRSA which can lead to a flesh-eating form of pneumonia has emerged.
"Research suggests it may be more prevalent among the gay community - the gay San Francisco district of Castro appears to have been hardest hit.
"The new strain of MRSA - methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus - is resistant to treatment by many front-line antibiotics.
"It causes large boils on the skin, and in severe cases can lead to fatal blood poisoning or necrotising pneumonia, which eats away at the lungs.
"Researchers say the bug has so far been 13 times more prevalent in gay men in San Francisco than in other people.
"In the Castro district - where more gay people live than anywhere else in the US - about one in 588 people are carrying the bug. In the general San Francisco community the figure was around one in 3,800.
"Researcher Dr Binh Diep, from San Francisco General Hospital Medical Centre, said: "These multi-drug resistant infections often affect gay men at body sites in which skin-to-skin contact occurs during sexual activities.
"The first MRSA strain, resistant to the penicillin substitute methicillin, was discovered in 1961. The USA300 strain was first isolated from a patient in 2001 - it is now the dominant form of Staphylococcus infection in the US. The latest variant of USA300 - FPR3757- is resistant to six major kinds of antibiotics.
"Even the new variant is treatable with some antibiotics, most importantly vancomycin. However, doctors fear it is close to acquiring resistance to that drug as well.
"But because the bacteria can be spread by more casual contact, we are also very concerned about a potential spread of this strain into the general population." The study, reported in Annals of Internal Medicine, was based on a review of medical records from outpatient clinics and medical centres in San Francisco and Boston.
"Professor Mark Enright, from Imperial College and St Mary's Hospital, London, Britain's leading authority on MRSA, said: "It's quite surprising that the figures are so high.
"The main reservoir for this infection is gay men, drug users, and those involved in contact sports, like wrestling. Having lots of sexual partners and making skin contact with a large number of different people helps the infection to spread.
"In the US it is already moving into the wider community."
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(thanks, again, Gay Community!!.....)
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Oh my!
Don't look now....
(from the BBC)
DEADLY NEW FORM OF MRSA EMERGES
"A deadly strain of the superbug MRSA which can lead to a flesh-eating form of pneumonia has emerged.
"Research suggests it may be more prevalent among the gay community - the gay San Francisco district of Castro appears to have been hardest hit.
"The new strain of MRSA - methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus - is resistant to treatment by many front-line antibiotics.
"It causes large boils on the skin, and in severe cases can lead to fatal blood poisoning or necrotising pneumonia, which eats away at the lungs.
"Researchers say the bug has so far been 13 times more prevalent in gay men in San Francisco than in other people.
"In the Castro district - where more gay people live than anywhere else in the US - about one in 588 people are carrying the bug. In the general San Francisco community the figure was around one in 3,800.
"Researcher Dr Binh Diep, from San Francisco General Hospital Medical Centre, said: "These multi-drug resistant infections often affect gay men at body sites in which skin-to-skin contact occurs during sexual activities.
"The first MRSA strain, resistant to the penicillin substitute methicillin, was discovered in 1961. The USA300 strain was first isolated from a patient in 2001 - it is now the dominant form of Staphylococcus infection in the US. The latest variant of USA300 - FPR3757- is resistant to six major kinds of antibiotics.
"Even the new variant is treatable with some antibiotics, most importantly vancomycin. However, doctors fear it is close to acquiring resistance to that drug as well.
"But because the bacteria can be spread by more casual contact, we are also very concerned about a potential spread of this strain into the general population." The study, reported in Annals of Internal Medicine, was based on a review of medical records from outpatient clinics and medical centres in San Francisco and Boston.
"Professor Mark Enright, from Imperial College and St Mary's Hospital, London, Britain's leading authority on MRSA, said: "It's quite surprising that the figures are so high.
"The main reservoir for this infection is gay men, drug users, and those involved in contact sports, like wrestling. Having lots of sexual partners and making skin contact with a large number of different people helps the infection to spread.
"In the US it is already moving into the wider community."
.
(thanks, again, Gay Community!!.....)
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Feom SFGate:
S.F. GAY COMMUNITY AN EPICENTER FOR NEW STRAIN OF VIRULENT STAPH
|By Sabin Russell, Chronicle Medical Writer
"A new variety of staph bacteria, highly resistant to antibiotics and possibly transmitted by sexual contact, is spreading among gay men in San Francisco, Boston, New York and Los Angeles, researchers reported Monday.
"The study released online by the journal Annals of Internal Medicine found the highest concentrations of infection by the drug-resistant bug in and around San Francisco's Castro district and among patients who visit health clinics that treat HIV infections in gay men in San Francisco and Boston.
"We probably had it here first, and now it is spreading elsewhere," said Binh An Diep, a researcher at San Francisco General Hospital and lead author of the report. "This is a national problem, and San Francisco is at the epicenter."
"The germ typically causes boils and other skin and soft-tissue infections and, despite its resistance to some drugs, is still treatable by surgical drainage and several classes of antibiotics. What is unusual in this case is the high percentage of infections - up to 40 percent - occurring in the BUTTOCKS and GENITALIA. The infections are found where skin-to-skin contact occurs during sexual activity.
"Until last year, staph infections had never been linked to sexual activity. Early last year, New York City physicians traced three instances of staph infection apparently spread by sexual contact. Their report was published in February in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.
"A month later, doctors from the Albany Medical Center in New York reported in the Journal of Urology three cases of multi-drug-resistant staph in the groins of three patients - one of whom developed a form of rapid-tissue destruction popularly known as "flesh-eating bacteria" disease.
"San Francisco General Hospital physicians have been battling an aggressive strain of MRSA, called USA300, since 2001. The most recent study estimates that this strain alone is infecting about 2,000 city residents a year.
"But the latest problem is being caused by a new variant of USA300 that was first detected in a San Francisco patient in 2003. The study estimated that 200 cases of this highly drug-resistant variant are turning up in San Francisco each year, mostly among gay men.
"We are nowhere near the peak," Diep said. "The peak will occur when it spreads into the general population."
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(thanks again!!!)
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S.F. GAY COMMUNITY AN EPICENTER FOR NEW STRAIN OF VIRULENT STAPH
|By Sabin Russell, Chronicle Medical Writer
"A new variety of staph bacteria, highly resistant to antibiotics and possibly transmitted by sexual contact, is spreading among gay men in San Francisco, Boston, New York and Los Angeles, researchers reported Monday.
"The study released online by the journal Annals of Internal Medicine found the highest concentrations of infection by the drug-resistant bug in and around San Francisco's Castro district and among patients who visit health clinics that treat HIV infections in gay men in San Francisco and Boston.
"We probably had it here first, and now it is spreading elsewhere," said Binh An Diep, a researcher at San Francisco General Hospital and lead author of the report. "This is a national problem, and San Francisco is at the epicenter."
"The germ typically causes boils and other skin and soft-tissue infections and, despite its resistance to some drugs, is still treatable by surgical drainage and several classes of antibiotics. What is unusual in this case is the high percentage of infections - up to 40 percent - occurring in the BUTTOCKS and GENITALIA. The infections are found where skin-to-skin contact occurs during sexual activity.
"Until last year, staph infections had never been linked to sexual activity. Early last year, New York City physicians traced three instances of staph infection apparently spread by sexual contact. Their report was published in February in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.
"A month later, doctors from the Albany Medical Center in New York reported in the Journal of Urology three cases of multi-drug-resistant staph in the groins of three patients - one of whom developed a form of rapid-tissue destruction popularly known as "flesh-eating bacteria" disease.
"San Francisco General Hospital physicians have been battling an aggressive strain of MRSA, called USA300, since 2001. The most recent study estimates that this strain alone is infecting about 2,000 city residents a year.
"But the latest problem is being caused by a new variant of USA300 that was first detected in a San Francisco patient in 2003. The study estimated that 200 cases of this highly drug-resistant variant are turning up in San Francisco each year, mostly among gay men.
"We are nowhere near the peak," Diep said. "The peak will occur when it spreads into the general population."
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(thanks again!!!)
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exerts from article in The Guardian:
It's flesh-eating, drug resistant and highly contagious - USA300 is a deadly strain of MRSA that has been identified in San Francisco.
by Mark Honigsbaum
....According to Dr Binh An Diep, the new variant of USA300 differs from other bacteria, and other USA300 variants, in that it contains a 'plasmid' with a unique ability to 'self-conjugate', or leap from one bacterium to another. 'It's like a virus of a bacteria,' The report speculated that the resistant clone may be associated with high-risk sexual activities, including 'skin-abrading' sex.
....Like another bacteria, Streptococcus, it can also trigger necrotising fasciitis - the 'flesh-eating' disease that can turn fingers, toes and limbs to goo. Then there's the big one, necrotising pneumonia, an excruciating respiratory infection that eats away at lung tissue, killing in a matter of hours.
....What worries Diep and his colleagues is that of all these so-called community-acquired strains, USA300 is shaping up to be the most dangerous of all. The USA300 gene map, published in the Lancet in February 2006, was startling. Normally, multi-drug resistance comes at the cost of evolutionary 'fitness': the bacteria survive but in a weaker, more sickly form. But the new USA300 subtype was not only resistant to six front-line antibiotics, it also appeared to have found a way of cheating the normal rules governing bacteria reproduction. The way it did this was by borrowing a piece of DNA - labelled 'acme' - from Staphylococcus epidermidis, a usually harmless species of staph which is even more ubiquitous on human skin. Diep theorises, and this has yet to be demonstrated, that the acme gene may allow the new USA300 variant to colonise many more body sites than previous variants.
But that is not the end of its tricks. The new variant also carries a 'plasmid' similar to the one which confers resistance to Vancomycin, presently one of the last lines of defence against hard-to-treat staph infections. In other words, it has the potential to become even more drug resistant than it already is.
What worries Diep, and the reason he thinks San Francisco may be at the epicentre of the emergence of this variant, is that in the UCSF study, which compared specimens from San Francisco General with those from patients at nine other city hospitals, researchers found that one in 588 people in Castro carried the new variant compared with one in 3,800 people in the city overall.
What worries Diep more is that infections of the new variant could mirror the rapid spread in the community of the presently more widely disseminated USA300. 'Since we identified the first case of USA300 here in 2000 we've gone from one documented case in San Francisco to 2,150,' says Diep. 'The question for all of us is what can we in the public health community do to prevent the spread of this new type of USA300, which is already highly drug resistant and very difficult to treat,' he says.
....The real problem, Guglielmo says, are so-called Gram negative bacteria, like Klebsiella, Acinetobacter and Pseudomonas, which produce equally nasty infections and for which there are presently few or no drugs left in the locker.
'I remember a time when there were no resistant strains of staph in San Francisco hospitals,' he says. 'Now resistance in the community is as high as 40 per cent. To me, that's incredible.'
More...
It's flesh-eating, drug resistant and highly contagious - USA300 is a deadly strain of MRSA that has been identified in San Francisco.
by Mark Honigsbaum
....According to Dr Binh An Diep, the new variant of USA300 differs from other bacteria, and other USA300 variants, in that it contains a 'plasmid' with a unique ability to 'self-conjugate', or leap from one bacterium to another. 'It's like a virus of a bacteria,' The report speculated that the resistant clone may be associated with high-risk sexual activities, including 'skin-abrading' sex.
....Like another bacteria, Streptococcus, it can also trigger necrotising fasciitis - the 'flesh-eating' disease that can turn fingers, toes and limbs to goo. Then there's the big one, necrotising pneumonia, an excruciating respiratory infection that eats away at lung tissue, killing in a matter of hours.
....What worries Diep and his colleagues is that of all these so-called community-acquired strains, USA300 is shaping up to be the most dangerous of all. The USA300 gene map, published in the Lancet in February 2006, was startling. Normally, multi-drug resistance comes at the cost of evolutionary 'fitness': the bacteria survive but in a weaker, more sickly form. But the new USA300 subtype was not only resistant to six front-line antibiotics, it also appeared to have found a way of cheating the normal rules governing bacteria reproduction. The way it did this was by borrowing a piece of DNA - labelled 'acme' - from Staphylococcus epidermidis, a usually harmless species of staph which is even more ubiquitous on human skin. Diep theorises, and this has yet to be demonstrated, that the acme gene may allow the new USA300 variant to colonise many more body sites than previous variants.
But that is not the end of its tricks. The new variant also carries a 'plasmid' similar to the one which confers resistance to Vancomycin, presently one of the last lines of defence against hard-to-treat staph infections. In other words, it has the potential to become even more drug resistant than it already is.
What worries Diep, and the reason he thinks San Francisco may be at the epicentre of the emergence of this variant, is that in the UCSF study, which compared specimens from San Francisco General with those from patients at nine other city hospitals, researchers found that one in 588 people in Castro carried the new variant compared with one in 3,800 people in the city overall.
What worries Diep more is that infections of the new variant could mirror the rapid spread in the community of the presently more widely disseminated USA300. 'Since we identified the first case of USA300 here in 2000 we've gone from one documented case in San Francisco to 2,150,' says Diep. 'The question for all of us is what can we in the public health community do to prevent the spread of this new type of USA300, which is already highly drug resistant and very difficult to treat,' he says.
....The real problem, Guglielmo says, are so-called Gram negative bacteria, like Klebsiella, Acinetobacter and Pseudomonas, which produce equally nasty infections and for which there are presently few or no drugs left in the locker.
'I remember a time when there were no resistant strains of staph in San Francisco hospitals,' he says. 'Now resistance in the community is as high as 40 per cent. To me, that's incredible.'
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Another fact: Viruses and bacteria are two different things!
Do you believe that this strain(of the ordinary and already quite deadly before AIDS came around staph infection) that seems to be quite prevalent in the gay community is evolution correcting the Homosexual mistake, or God's Judgment on the Homosexual mistake?
Do you believe that this strain(of the ordinary and already quite deadly before AIDS came around staph infection) that seems to be quite prevalent in the gay community is evolution correcting the Homosexual mistake, or God's Judgment on the Homosexual mistake?
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You may not have read the posts- this is an extraordinary and quite more deadly variant of the ordinary and already quite deadly before AIDS came around staph infection.
It is a bacteria that thrives under certain circumstances.
Because it is so lethal it would seem prudent to describe behaviors that favor the bug as unhealthy and unwise.
People who indulge in unhealthy unwise behaviors run a much greater risk of getting sick or dying.
It is a bacteria that thrives under certain circumstances.
Because it is so lethal it would seem prudent to describe behaviors that favor the bug as unhealthy and unwise.
People who indulge in unhealthy unwise behaviors run a much greater risk of getting sick or dying.
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AIDS IS a problem for many people.
But not for all people equally.
The fact that homosexual men are 34X as likely to be a new AIDS case is "context". And fact.
The fact that homosexual men are 13X as likely to get the scary flesh eating bacteria is "context". And fact.
We infer that homosexual men are engaging in behaviors that predispose them to acquire some pretty nasty diseases.
Condoms and 25 years of education and outreach notwithstanding.
We infer that trying to make those behaviors "safe" seems to be a difficult thing to pull off.
We infer that trying to swim upstream against those powerful biological and epidemiological realities seems ill advised and inflicts a very high casualty rate.
We infer that burying stark public health truths under a layer of PC icing to sweeten the taste does the public a great disservice and; when done by people whose training does or should make them know better; is morally indefensible.
AIDS is not "a disease that only gay people or people who touch gay people get"; and we never said it was.
AIDS is a disease that homosexual men disproportionately get.
Science can tell you why and what to do about it.
If you listen.
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AIDS IS a problem for many people.
But not for all people equally.
The fact that homosexual men are 34X as likely to be a new AIDS case is "context". And fact.
The fact that homosexual men are 13X as likely to get the scary flesh eating bacteria is "context". And fact.
We infer that homosexual men are engaging in behaviors that predispose them to acquire some pretty nasty diseases.
Condoms and 25 years of education and outreach notwithstanding.
We infer that trying to make those behaviors "safe" seems to be a difficult thing to pull off.
We infer that trying to swim upstream against those powerful biological and epidemiological realities seems ill advised and inflicts a very high casualty rate.
We infer that burying stark public health truths under a layer of PC icing to sweeten the taste does the public a great disservice and; when done by people whose training does or should make them know better; is morally indefensible.
AIDS is not "a disease that only gay people or people who touch gay people get"; and we never said it was.
AIDS is a disease that homosexual men disproportionately get.
Science can tell you why and what to do about it.
If you listen.
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"AIDS is a disease that homosexual men disproportionately get.
Science can tell you why"
-- Oh this ought to be good.
Please, oh wise oracle of science, "Fact and Inference", tell us why.
Science can tell you why"
-- Oh this ought to be good.
Please, oh wise oracle of science, "Fact and Inference", tell us why.
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It's extraordinary and quite more deadly, but there have been no updates on it in the past two years? If it's very deadly, I would imagine that it might have, you know, spread to other people.
Oh, and wrong on all counts. Except: "People who indulge in unhealthy unwise behaviors run a much greater risk of getting sick or dying." That's always been true. But it never stopped people from drinking, smoking, driving, flying, eating, fucking, going outside, or doing anything fun. And it never will.
Oh, and wrong on all counts. Except: "People who indulge in unhealthy unwise behaviors run a much greater risk of getting sick or dying." That's always been true. But it never stopped people from drinking, smoking, driving, flying, eating, fucking, going outside, or doing anything fun. And it never will.
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The PC police see to it that the link to homosexual behavior is scrubbed out of current reporting.
The Stranger could do an exposé on this "hidden unreported gay plague" if they really cared about science and the gay community-
Clinical Microbiology & Infection. 15 Sup 7:17-25, December 2009.
Witte, W.
Abstract:
: Community-associated methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (CA-MRSA) has become a matter of concern worldwide, in particular in the USA. For the analysis of emergence and spread, clear definitions based on epidemiological origin are needed for discrimination between CA-MRSA, healthcare-associated community MRSA, and healthcare-associated MRSA (HA-MRSA). Although its role in pathogenesis is currently under debate, the capability for Panton-Valentine leukocidin formation is associated with the majority of CA-MRSA isolates from North America and from Europe. Most CA-MRSA isolates are attributed to clonal lineages different from HA-MRSA; there are, however, clonal lineages from which both HA-MRSA and CA-MRSA have been reported (e.g. ST1, ST5, ST8, and ST22); CA-MRSA ST8 (USA300), which is most frequent in the USA, has meanwhile been reported from Europe. CA-MRSA ST80 is widely disseminated in Europe; because of its pronounced oxacillin heteroresistance phenotype, cefoxitin-based assays are advisable for reliable detection. So far, CA-MRSA infections seem to be much less frequent in Europe than in the USA, where patients with "particular predispositions"* and low social status are at especial risk.
* "particular predispositions"- get it? (wink wink)
The Stranger could do an exposé on this "hidden unreported gay plague" if they really cared about science and the gay community-
Clinical Microbiology & Infection. 15 Sup 7:17-25, December 2009.
Witte, W.
Abstract:
: Community-associated methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (CA-MRSA) has become a matter of concern worldwide, in particular in the USA. For the analysis of emergence and spread, clear definitions based on epidemiological origin are needed for discrimination between CA-MRSA, healthcare-associated community MRSA, and healthcare-associated MRSA (HA-MRSA). Although its role in pathogenesis is currently under debate, the capability for Panton-Valentine leukocidin formation is associated with the majority of CA-MRSA isolates from North America and from Europe. Most CA-MRSA isolates are attributed to clonal lineages different from HA-MRSA; there are, however, clonal lineages from which both HA-MRSA and CA-MRSA have been reported (e.g. ST1, ST5, ST8, and ST22); CA-MRSA ST8 (USA300), which is most frequent in the USA, has meanwhile been reported from Europe. CA-MRSA ST80 is widely disseminated in Europe; because of its pronounced oxacillin heteroresistance phenotype, cefoxitin-based assays are advisable for reliable detection. So far, CA-MRSA infections seem to be much less frequent in Europe than in the USA, where patients with "particular predispositions"* and low social status are at especial risk.
* "particular predispositions"- get it? (wink wink)
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Community-associated MRSA finally gets to central New York
Journal of Pediatrics - Volume 156, Issue 1 (January 2010) - Copyright © 2010 Mosby, Inc. - About This Journal
The Editors' Perspective
Community-associated MRSA finally gets to central New York
Sarah S. Long, MD
Article Page 152 ▸
PII S0022-3476(09)01140-8
In this issue of The Journal, Suryadevara et al calculate the pediatric population-based incidence and hospitalization-based prevalence of invasive Staphylococcus aureus infection from 1996 through 2006 at the University Hospital in Syracuse, which serves 14 counties in central New York state. Their data are useful because such denominators are infrequently used in the plethora of case series describing the decade's epidemic of community-associated methicillin-resistant S aureus (MRSA).
The remarkable finding of this study and epidemiologic note is that MRSA has come late and seemingly less pervasively to New York state to date. Years after remarkable case loads mounted across the country – Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Corpus Christi, Chicago, Little Rock, Nashville, Baltimore, Philadelphia – in the latter 19…
Journal of Pediatrics - Volume 156, Issue 1 (January 2010) - Copyright © 2010 Mosby, Inc. - About This Journal
The Editors' Perspective
Community-associated MRSA finally gets to central New York
Sarah S. Long, MD
Article Page 152 ▸
PII S0022-3476(09)01140-8
In this issue of The Journal, Suryadevara et al calculate the pediatric population-based incidence and hospitalization-based prevalence of invasive Staphylococcus aureus infection from 1996 through 2006 at the University Hospital in Syracuse, which serves 14 counties in central New York state. Their data are useful because such denominators are infrequently used in the plethora of case series describing the decade's epidemic of community-associated methicillin-resistant S aureus (MRSA).
The remarkable finding of this study and epidemiologic note is that MRSA has come late and seemingly less pervasively to New York state to date. Years after remarkable case loads mounted across the country – Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Corpus Christi, Chicago, Little Rock, Nashville, Baltimore, Philadelphia – in the latter 19…
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from CDC website:
Emerging Infectious Diseases
Volume 15, Number 10–October 2009
Research
Community-Associated Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus aureus, Iowa, USA
A recent multicenter study by Moran et al. showed that USA300 MRSA is now the most common cause of skin and soft tissue infections (SSTIs) among adults seeking treatment in emergency departments in 11 large metropolitan areas (15). USA300 also causes serious invasive infections such as necrotizing pneumonia, bloodstream infections, and surgical site infections, some of which are acquired in hospitals (18–22). Although most USA300 and USA400 isolates are currently resistant to fewer classes of antimicrobial drugs than are HA-MRSA isolates (13), a recent paper by Han et al. identified a USA300 subtype that is resistant to erythromycin, clindamycin (constitutive), tetracycline, mupirocin, and fluoroquinolones (23).
Diep et al. published a follow-up study of previous observations by Han et al. (23) about multidrug-resistant USA300 isolates (31). These investigators found multidrug-resistant isolates in Boston and in San Francisco and they identified male to male sex, past MRSA infection, and use of clindamycin to be risk factors for multiresistant USA300. A multidrug resistance plasmid (pUSA03) mediated these drug resistances.
CA-MRSA, particularly USA300, is a public health concern for several other reasons. As noted previously, USA300 is rapidly replacing other strains of MRSA in the community (15,31) and has become an important nosocomial pathogen (21). Moreover, the types of infections caused by USA300 and the epidemiology of this strain are changing rapidly (39). Currently, most USA300 and USA400 isolates have fewer co-resistances than do HA-MRSA isolates (13). However, selective pressures can cause genetic drift in favor of more resistances; papers by Han et al. (23) and Diep et al. (31) documented that USA300 can acquire additional drug resistance determinants. If USA300 and USA400 become resistant to oral antimicrobial agents and the proportion of invasive MRSA infections caused by CA-MRSA continues to increase, many more patients will need parenteral vancomycin therapy, which will increase the difficulty and cost of treating these infections. Furthermore, as the incidence of CA-MRSA infections increases, horizontal transmission of these strains could increase in hospitals, making control of MRSA in healthcare settings even more difficult (6,40). Nosocomial bloodstream infections, ventilator-associated pneumonia, and surgical site infections caused by these strains could be devastating given the necrotizing nature of the infections.
More...
Emerging Infectious Diseases
Volume 15, Number 10–October 2009
Research
Community-Associated Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus aureus, Iowa, USA
A recent multicenter study by Moran et al. showed that USA300 MRSA is now the most common cause of skin and soft tissue infections (SSTIs) among adults seeking treatment in emergency departments in 11 large metropolitan areas (15). USA300 also causes serious invasive infections such as necrotizing pneumonia, bloodstream infections, and surgical site infections, some of which are acquired in hospitals (18–22). Although most USA300 and USA400 isolates are currently resistant to fewer classes of antimicrobial drugs than are HA-MRSA isolates (13), a recent paper by Han et al. identified a USA300 subtype that is resistant to erythromycin, clindamycin (constitutive), tetracycline, mupirocin, and fluoroquinolones (23).
Diep et al. published a follow-up study of previous observations by Han et al. (23) about multidrug-resistant USA300 isolates (31). These investigators found multidrug-resistant isolates in Boston and in San Francisco and they identified male to male sex, past MRSA infection, and use of clindamycin to be risk factors for multiresistant USA300. A multidrug resistance plasmid (pUSA03) mediated these drug resistances.
CA-MRSA, particularly USA300, is a public health concern for several other reasons. As noted previously, USA300 is rapidly replacing other strains of MRSA in the community (15,31) and has become an important nosocomial pathogen (21). Moreover, the types of infections caused by USA300 and the epidemiology of this strain are changing rapidly (39). Currently, most USA300 and USA400 isolates have fewer co-resistances than do HA-MRSA isolates (13). However, selective pressures can cause genetic drift in favor of more resistances; papers by Han et al. (23) and Diep et al. (31) documented that USA300 can acquire additional drug resistance determinants. If USA300 and USA400 become resistant to oral antimicrobial agents and the proportion of invasive MRSA infections caused by CA-MRSA continues to increase, many more patients will need parenteral vancomycin therapy, which will increase the difficulty and cost of treating these infections. Furthermore, as the incidence of CA-MRSA infections increases, horizontal transmission of these strains could increase in hospitals, making control of MRSA in healthcare settings even more difficult (6,40). Nosocomial bloodstream infections, ventilator-associated pneumonia, and surgical site infections caused by these strains could be devastating given the necrotizing nature of the infections.
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Infection comes full circle
By Irene Maher, St Petersburg Times Staff Writer
Published Wednesday, December 2, 2009
Years ago, the superbug MRSA was found only in hospitals and other health care facilities, where it preyed on the old and the sick. And still, that's where it is deadliest, responsible for more than 70 percent of all hospital staph infections and killing some 20,000 Americans annually.
MRSA started turning up outside hospitals in the late 1990s in schools, gyms and military barracks, evolving into community-associated MRSA, or CA-MRSA. Now a new study published this month says that strain is bouncing back into hospitals, increasing the infection risk to the most vulnerable people.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that 14 percent of people with MRSA have the community-associated strain. Many are young. A Minnesota study found that the average age of a CA-MRSA patient is 23, compared to 68 for other MRSA patients.
Starting in the late 1990s, most cases of CA-MRSA were linked to places like gyms and schools where people are in close proximity and might share exercise equipment, bathroom and shower facilities, razors, towels, uniforms and other clothing.
Athletes in high-contact sports such as football and wrestling were found to be at particular risk, but so were people who failed to wipe down shared surfaces in gyms like weight benches, bike seats and padded mats for floor exercises. The bacteria can survive on damp towels and surfaces for days or weeks.
More troubling, CA-MRSA seems to have invaded hospitals. A study in the December issue of Emerging Infectious Diseases suggests health care workers, who often move between outpatient clinics and in-patient hospital rooms, may be dragging the bacteria with them and infecting hospitalized patients.
More...
By Irene Maher, St Petersburg Times Staff Writer
Published Wednesday, December 2, 2009
Years ago, the superbug MRSA was found only in hospitals and other health care facilities, where it preyed on the old and the sick. And still, that's where it is deadliest, responsible for more than 70 percent of all hospital staph infections and killing some 20,000 Americans annually.
MRSA started turning up outside hospitals in the late 1990s in schools, gyms and military barracks, evolving into community-associated MRSA, or CA-MRSA. Now a new study published this month says that strain is bouncing back into hospitals, increasing the infection risk to the most vulnerable people.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that 14 percent of people with MRSA have the community-associated strain. Many are young. A Minnesota study found that the average age of a CA-MRSA patient is 23, compared to 68 for other MRSA patients.
Starting in the late 1990s, most cases of CA-MRSA were linked to places like gyms and schools where people are in close proximity and might share exercise equipment, bathroom and shower facilities, razors, towels, uniforms and other clothing.
Athletes in high-contact sports such as football and wrestling were found to be at particular risk, but so were people who failed to wipe down shared surfaces in gyms like weight benches, bike seats and padded mats for floor exercises. The bacteria can survive on damp towels and surfaces for days or weeks.
More troubling, CA-MRSA seems to have invaded hospitals. A study in the December issue of Emerging Infectious Diseases suggests health care workers, who often move between outpatient clinics and in-patient hospital rooms, may be dragging the bacteria with them and infecting hospitalized patients.
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It neither amazes nor astonishes me how little reading comprehension you have. 20,000 Americans killed by regular old Staph infections, and how many killed by the new gay Divine Judgement? 14% of the staph infections are the new CA strain, and no number on exactly how many of them are actually gay. In addition, the average age of infection is 23, so the death rate is going to much lower than the one taking out old people and children. Of course, there's no estimate given on how many gays are dying of the disease yearly in any of the articles you posted.
It doesn't seem to be a big problem to me. You know 1 in 150 people are being born with autism these days, right? That's all straight people's fault. And it's a legitimate problem, unlike this puffed up horseshit you're peddling.
It doesn't seem to be a big problem to me. You know 1 in 150 people are being born with autism these days, right? That's all straight people's fault. And it's a legitimate problem, unlike this puffed up horseshit you're peddling.
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It neither amazes nor astonishes me that the death of 20,000 Americans a year doesn't seem to be a big problem to you.
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Does autism not seem like a big problem to you? I think you breeders are doing something wrong. Maybe god is angry at you for being so stupid, so he cursed your brood to have mental illnesses in record numbers.
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That was silly of me to say. It's obvious you have a mental illness, so naturally anyone you touch is going to catch it too.
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