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News & ArtsThursday, December 3, 2009
Crime The One Relative Who Did Not Give Maurice Clemmons a Place to "Rest and Hide"
Posted by Charles Mudede on Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:29 AM
What Maurice Clemmon's Aunt was doing on the day of the murders:
(Seattle Times) Chrisceda Clemmons and Shantz had spent the day in Lynnwood, where their band, Bakra Bata, had played at the opening of a transit station. Shantz had glanced at The New York Times online that morning and saw something about four officers in Tacoma, but forgot about it.This is Bakra Bata, and during the siege on Chrisceda's house the band's "...musical instruments [were] tossed all around." I can't help but see in this tossing of the instruments something like a meeting point for two very different events. The core purpose of one event: the generation of as much pleasure as possible; the other, the generation of as much pain and suffering as possible.
A closing note: the root of the murders may not the 44th governor of Arkansas but, instead, the 40th president of the United States. Reagan's dismantling of public mental health services must not be left out of the picture of causes and concerns.
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Looks like their search was... *takes off sunglasses* ...flute-less.
YEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
YEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Not sure if this would work with our tear gas but...
http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no7/cs_gas…
..recomments a "solution made up from water and sodium metabisulphate (sold as Campden tablets used in home brewing)" to neutralize the stuff, so that might work as a first step toward cleaning it up.
http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no7/cs_gas…
..recomments a "solution made up from water and sodium metabisulphate (sold as Campden tablets used in home brewing)" to neutralize the stuff, so that might work as a first step toward cleaning it up.
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Notice this Times story doesn't quote police. From what I understand, the family might have fled the house - but not before they left Clemmons a bag of clothes and keys in the ignitions of their cars. Don't feel too sorry for them. Fuckers.
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For the cleanup:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12…
100g of this per every 2 liters of water, or more easily 200g or so for a gallon jug of water
(This is a mix of sodium bisulfite and sodium metabisulfite, both cited in various hazmat guides as effective in decontaminating various tear gasses.)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12…
100g of this per every 2 liters of water, or more easily 200g or so for a gallon jug of water
(This is a mix of sodium bisulfite and sodium metabisulfite, both cited in various hazmat guides as effective in decontaminating various tear gasses.)
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"and during the police the siege on Chrisceda's"
does this make sense to anyone here?
wait....you write books & newspapers 'n shit? Really?
does this make sense to anyone here?
wait....you write books & newspapers 'n shit? Really?
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@7 If Witt or Kappel don't come out and correct these stories today, I am 100% confident that the public will learn what these family members did as other cases are brought to trial.
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@10 yeah, I also having a feeling with the Google WAVE popularity potential (specifically its implementation of real-time chatting) our proofreading of online communications are going the way of the buffalo.....oh well, I guess I should embrace its immediacy & other random perks.
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this writer seems strangely anti-police and pro-Maurice Clemmons... she keeps repeating how the aunt betrayed her nephew, how the police didn't seemed indifferent about their help, and how the family home was utterly destroyed (and won't be fixed for god knows how long).
What I ultimately got out of this article was the message that you shouldn't snitch to the police, lest they'll wreck your house because you did.
What I ultimately got out of this article was the message that you shouldn't snitch to the police, lest they'll wreck your house because you did.
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"'I have factual information about his whereabouts.' The officer, who was on the phone, told him to take a seat. Fifteen minutes later, Shantz told his story"
WTF?
WTF?
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Good Morning Charles,
The "root of the murders" doesn't lie with the Reagan administration at all. That's foolish. The root cause of the Lakewood massacre lies exclusively with Maurice Clemmons himself. By an extraordianry series of events (some just flat out lucky), Mr. Clemmons eluded a system plus law enforcemment. He was found mentally fit by at least one hospital. He apparently owned 5 homes (although that is being looked into) and a business. He was married and had children. On the face of it, his circumstances didn't show mental incompetence.
Look, there are murderers that know exactly what they do and are mentally competent and there are murderers that don't and are declared insane. It is an extremely difficult task to determine which even in the mental health care profession under the best of circumstances. Clemmons' history was crimminal. No, it appears he didn't deserve the 100+ years sentence imposed for the crimes of his teen years. Huckabee evidently agreed and granted clemency. Clearly, hindsight indicates that that was a bad decision. But no one could have predicted the horror of Lakewood (or Officer Brenton's murder by Montfort as well).
What is far more baffling and shocking to me are the apparently sane friends and relatives (one, Clemmons' aunt had common human decency and reported him to police) who aided and abbetted Clemmons after the shooting. They are complicit in the Lakewood massacre. No presidential adminstration is to blame for Clemmons' behavior and the outrageous actions of those who assisted him. Clemmons alone is the culprit.
The "root of the murders" doesn't lie with the Reagan administration at all. That's foolish. The root cause of the Lakewood massacre lies exclusively with Maurice Clemmons himself. By an extraordianry series of events (some just flat out lucky), Mr. Clemmons eluded a system plus law enforcemment. He was found mentally fit by at least one hospital. He apparently owned 5 homes (although that is being looked into) and a business. He was married and had children. On the face of it, his circumstances didn't show mental incompetence.
Look, there are murderers that know exactly what they do and are mentally competent and there are murderers that don't and are declared insane. It is an extremely difficult task to determine which even in the mental health care profession under the best of circumstances. Clemmons' history was crimminal. No, it appears he didn't deserve the 100+ years sentence imposed for the crimes of his teen years. Huckabee evidently agreed and granted clemency. Clearly, hindsight indicates that that was a bad decision. But no one could have predicted the horror of Lakewood (or Officer Brenton's murder by Montfort as well).
What is far more baffling and shocking to me are the apparently sane friends and relatives (one, Clemmons' aunt had common human decency and reported him to police) who aided and abbetted Clemmons after the shooting. They are complicit in the Lakewood massacre. No presidential adminstration is to blame for Clemmons' behavior and the outrageous actions of those who assisted him. Clemmons alone is the culprit.
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Don't put it all on Reagan. After the Supreme Court's Donaldson decision in the mid-1970's, Dixy Lee Ray wasted little time in emptying out the state's mental institutions.
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Reagan is a god to conservatives. Even though he:
1. Raised taxes
2. Cut-and-run from terrorists in Lebanon
3. Gave amnesty to illegal immigrants
1. Raised taxes
2. Cut-and-run from terrorists in Lebanon
3. Gave amnesty to illegal immigrants
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@16 correct on two points, I do have a brain injury, so I can be called a "retard". Two, my bad, he might be white, but you completely missed the point. 15 MINUTES + "just missed" him at the Leschi house = "Retard". So:
Fifteen minutes later I decided to listen to you, _________.
Fifteen minutes later I decided to listen to you, _________.
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@19--but look at all the good he did for the conservative cause: 1> Broke the unions! Now our corporate overlords can hire and fire who they want when they want! The whole country is Texas! 2> Won the Cold War! Now we're safe from nuclear annihilation! 3> The War on Drugs! Put all those pesky African American males in privately run for-profit jails where they belong instead of raising families! 4> And let's not forget the de-institutionalization of the mentally ill!
No wonder he's a god to the i-got-mine-you-go-get-yours movement, in spite of his regrettable liberal tendencies.
No wonder he's a god to the i-got-mine-you-go-get-yours movement, in spite of his regrettable liberal tendencies.
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Bakra Bata is a good band. The police should come help clean up their mess, otherwise, they look like animals.
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One of the crackho's who helped Clemmons while he was on the run (and the daughter of the guy who allegedly drove the gettaway car) has a GREAT myspace page. A must read.
Esp the photos:
http://www.myspace.com/msdestiny206
her motto: "No regreats just lessons learned" f-ing crack ho
Esp the photos:
http://www.myspace.com/msdestiny206
her motto: "No regreats just lessons learned" f-ing crack ho
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