Tuesday, November 24, 2009
International Ever Been to Papua New Guinea?
Posted by Grant Brissey on Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:23 PM
I haven't, but this photo alone makes me want to look into it.
- Jonathan Yamauchi
- Rabaul, Papua New Guinea (Click to Enlarge)
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No, but I've got three LPs from a rock band from there.
They were nice guys and had a really good electric sound.
They were nice guys and had a really good electric sound.
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Its pretty expensive country to be a tourist in. Youll most likely have to stay in Moresby for a couple of days waiting for a flight, and Pt. Moresby seriously blows. Bring lots of books.
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@3 is right, Papua New Guinea is crazy expensive to get to. You probably have to fly from Australia, for starters, and you can't just wander off into the rain forest on your own. You need to join an organized and very expensive tour group. The terrain is impossibly rough, and many of the tribal groups are permanently at war with each other, and extremely hostile to outsiders. You need local expertise to avoid getting killed.
On the plus side, it's either the first or second most ecologically diverse countries on the earth (with Madagascar). There are places where if you know what you're doing and keep your eyes open you are absolutely guaranteed to discover new species.
On the plus side, it's either the first or second most ecologically diverse countries on the earth (with Madagascar). There are places where if you know what you're doing and keep your eyes open you are absolutely guaranteed to discover new species.
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Just for fun I punched it into a cheap ticket place and came up with about $3,500 round-trip per person just to get to Port Moresby, which is widely agreed to be the most horrible place on earth. According to The Economist's livability rankings, Vancouver is #1, while Port Moresby is last, below Algiers, Dhaka, Karachi, Lagos, Phnom Penh, Abidjan, Harare, and Douala.
So you'll want to do a tour. Pngtours.com offers a nice village tour of 12 days that costs $4,762 per person based on double occupancy; if there's only one of you you will pay $5,668 instead, plus additional air charters of $820, plus various personal extras like beverages (SP Lager!) and laundry.
Call it $10,000. Trip of a lifetime, I'll bet!
So you'll want to do a tour. Pngtours.com offers a nice village tour of 12 days that costs $4,762 per person based on double occupancy; if there's only one of you you will pay $5,668 instead, plus additional air charters of $820, plus various personal extras like beverages (SP Lager!) and laundry.
Call it $10,000. Trip of a lifetime, I'll bet!
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@6 - just fly to Vietnam and take the boat - it's cheaper.
The other way is wait for a special on a Kiwi flight.
The other way is wait for a special on a Kiwi flight.
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@7, a more spectacular than usual Will in Seattle fail.
Vietnam is 3500 miles from Port Moresby, making a boat trip, should any be offered, which they aren't, unfeasible.
And there are no flights from New Zealand to PNG. Brisbane, Cairns, Fiji, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Sydney, and Tokyo yes; Auckland no.
Vietnam is 3500 miles from Port Moresby, making a boat trip, should any be offered, which they aren't, unfeasible.
And there are no flights from New Zealand to PNG. Brisbane, Cairns, Fiji, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Sydney, and Tokyo yes; Auckland no.
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Nobody said it was direct.
I thought you wanted cheap.
And, for decades, musicians from Papua New Guineau have travelled to New Zealand to get their music published.
A lot of flights are charters, a lot of boat trips are aboard cargo ships.
Not everywhere works the way we do.
One of the cheapest ways to travel to Vietnam is to fly to South Korea, actually. Counter-intuitive to the Western eye, perhaps, but I'll take the word of my Vietnamese colleagues and their wives over yours any day of the wiki week.
I thought you wanted cheap.
And, for decades, musicians from Papua New Guineau have travelled to New Zealand to get their music published.
A lot of flights are charters, a lot of boat trips are aboard cargo ships.
Not everywhere works the way we do.
One of the cheapest ways to travel to Vietnam is to fly to South Korea, actually. Counter-intuitive to the Western eye, perhaps, but I'll take the word of my Vietnamese colleagues and their wives over yours any day of the wiki week.
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You're just wrong, Will.
There is no cheaper way to to get to PNG than via Australia. This has always been true.
I imagine PNG musicians normally get their music published in Australia, which has close cultural ties to the country (it was an Australian colony until 1975), and a significant publishing industry, not New Zealand, which is 2,000 miles further away.
A cargo ship from Vietnam to PNG is an absolutely ridiculous suggestion. It's 3500 MILES -- further than New York to Southampton. And this imaginary boat -- where exactly are you going to catch it, Will? Are there cargo ships running to PNG on a regular basis from there? Mmm, no. PNG cargo boats come from...wait for it....Australia.
Your original wording was "just fly to Vietnam and take the boat" as if it was the easiest thing in the world. In fact, of course, it's the HARDEST thing in the world, and virtually no one has ever done it. Because it would be STUPID.
The fact is, you MADE THIS UP. You have NO IDEA. But it's important to you for some bizarre reason -- probably because you know deep down in your heart that you're a fuck knuckle with nothing to offer on your own -- that people will like you if you seem like you know something. But you don't know anything, which is why the stuff you make up is so absurdly false and easily disproven.
The cheapest way to fly to Vietnam is to fly to Vietnam, not Seoul. I've got more Vietnamese colleagues than you do, and it's nothing to do with a "Western eye", it's to do with simple facts.
There is no cheaper way to to get to PNG than via Australia. This has always been true.
I imagine PNG musicians normally get their music published in Australia, which has close cultural ties to the country (it was an Australian colony until 1975), and a significant publishing industry, not New Zealand, which is 2,000 miles further away.
A cargo ship from Vietnam to PNG is an absolutely ridiculous suggestion. It's 3500 MILES -- further than New York to Southampton. And this imaginary boat -- where exactly are you going to catch it, Will? Are there cargo ships running to PNG on a regular basis from there? Mmm, no. PNG cargo boats come from...wait for it....Australia.
Your original wording was "just fly to Vietnam and take the boat" as if it was the easiest thing in the world. In fact, of course, it's the HARDEST thing in the world, and virtually no one has ever done it. Because it would be STUPID.
The fact is, you MADE THIS UP. You have NO IDEA. But it's important to you for some bizarre reason -- probably because you know deep down in your heart that you're a fuck knuckle with nothing to offer on your own -- that people will like you if you seem like you know something. But you don't know anything, which is why the stuff you make up is so absurdly false and easily disproven.
The cheapest way to fly to Vietnam is to fly to Vietnam, not Seoul. I've got more Vietnamese colleagues than you do, and it's nothing to do with a "Western eye", it's to do with simple facts.
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My mom lived at the base of an 'active' volcano in PNG when she was a kid. My grandfather was stationed there for a couple of years (army stuff).
The volcano rumbled a lot, but I don't think it was expected to erupt anytime. Mind you, who knows how decent any predictions were in those days.
The better story from that period in time, in my opinion, was the one of how the family's dog went missing one day. They found out their native PN-Guinean neighbors (apparently real nice folks) had eaten it. Best part: the dog's name was Lucky.
The volcano rumbled a lot, but I don't think it was expected to erupt anytime. Mind you, who knows how decent any predictions were in those days.
The better story from that period in time, in my opinion, was the one of how the family's dog went missing one day. They found out their native PN-Guinean neighbors (apparently real nice folks) had eaten it. Best part: the dog's name was Lucky.
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