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Homo / Religion Hate Crimes Down in Los Angeles County With One Exception....
Posted by Dan Savage on Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Remember how anti-Mormon, anti-Christian hate crimes totally skyrocketed in California after Prop 8 because gays and lesbians are so angry and violent and hateful and intolerant? LA Times:
Los Angeles County saw an overall 4% drop in hate crimes last year, while crimes against gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered people increased, prompted in part by last November’s highly charged Proposition 8 initiative, the voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage in California, according to a new report released today.There were 134 sexual-orientation hate crimes reported last year, up from 111 in 2007, and [anti-gay hate crimes] were more likely to be violent than hate crimes motivated by race or religion, according to the annual Hate Crime Report by the Los Angeles County Commission on Human Relations.
Gay people sure are violent—just look at how we're always throwing our faces at the fists of gay bashers and how we make conservative religious people look bad by forcing them to strip us of our civil rights. How do we sleep at night?
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Lying homosexualists, if they hadn't try to steal marriage and destroy society, nobody would have to murder, maim, beat, rob, rape or assault them.
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But what about the victimization the Mormon Church experienced when their beliefs were subjected to public challenges? Don't you realize that it's persecution to expect them to be able to defend the beliefs dictated to their Council of Elders from the Golden Plates in Joseph Smith's Magic Hat?
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But gays are unrighteous. The intimidation of one religious bigot is worth the blood of 1000 hellbound gays. Just ask LC.
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Did hate crimes go up, or did the categories increase and people - and police - report them as such more often?
It depends on how you measure these things.
It depends on how you measure these things.
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"hate crimes targeting African Americans remain by far the largest group of hate crime victims,” Toma said. “They are 61% of racial hate crime victims and yet comprise only 9% of the county population.”
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@11 Right, but they don't care about that here.
It would be interesting, tho, to know more accurately what are they precisely labeling hate crimes against gays and lesbians now. I know that i haven't seen any post here concerning any coming from California, and you better believe that Dan would be going berserk blogging about them endlessly had there been so much goin on. The only one that I've seen here as of recently that could be construed as a possible crime is the one about the kid in Portorico, hardly California tho.
It would be interesting, tho, to know more accurately what are they precisely labeling hate crimes against gays and lesbians now. I know that i haven't seen any post here concerning any coming from California, and you better believe that Dan would be going berserk blogging about them endlessly had there been so much goin on. The only one that I've seen here as of recently that could be construed as a possible crime is the one about the kid in Portorico, hardly California tho.
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Thanks for posting this, Dan. It's really amazing. I have NEVER heard of anyone getting beat up for being christian in this country, but i read about anti-gay beatings and killings every week on sites like Towleroad.
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Loveschild, if you weren't so dang lazy and ignorant, you'd just read thereport for yourself.
Hate crimes based on homophobia increased 21%, from 111 to 134. As in past years, gay men were targeted in the great majority of these crimes (81%) and anti-lesbian crimes made up 15%. The remaining 4% targeted LGBT-oriented organizations as opposed to individuals. Sexual orientation-motivated crimes were violent in 73%
of the cases, a greater proportion than for racial- (68%) or religious- (28%) motivated crimes. Simple assaults constituted 35%, aggravated assaults 25%, vandalisms 23%, and acts of intimidation 11%.
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@10: And who were the victims of religious hate crimes? Christians? Uh--surprise--mostly not.
Consistent with previous years, the
great majority (65%) were anti-Jewish. They were followed by anti-Scientology crimes (13%), anti-other Christian (9%), and anti-Muslim (4%) crimes.
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@15 I read the link Dan provided and I also read yours and it clearly says:
"The majority of these hate crimes were racially-motivated (61%)"
It talks about how hate crimes against individuals self identified as homosexuals have risen "21%" but what it doesn't say in either is what are they identifying as hate crimes against said individuals? They don't cite the cases or at least some examples of factual incidents that arose in the aftermath of Prop 8. There are quite a few that have been well documented against religious institutions by those opposing the work that was done by people of faith. But i have yet to read about one committed against homosexuals that is directly linked to the Passage of prop 8.
"The majority of these hate crimes were racially-motivated (61%)"
It talks about how hate crimes against individuals self identified as homosexuals have risen "21%" but what it doesn't say in either is what are they identifying as hate crimes against said individuals? They don't cite the cases or at least some examples of factual incidents that arose in the aftermath of Prop 8. There are quite a few that have been well documented against religious institutions by those opposing the work that was done by people of faith. But i have yet to read about one committed against homosexuals that is directly linked to the Passage of prop 8.
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@ 17, that's because passage of Prop 8 assuaged your side. Your people (by which I mean bigots, not African Americans) would have gone apeshit if it failed. You don't go beating up gays when you've won an important election victory against them.
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See, this is why it's so hard to take the Christian faith seriously. A real Christian would have been shocked to hear of the violence perpetrated in Jesus' name. But the political Christians using gays as a wedge issue to drive bigots out to vote only care about splitting hairs over statistics and looking for how this impacts their political position on marriage. Who cares who gets hurt or killed in the process?
"God is Love" indeed.
"God is Love" indeed.
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Meanwhile, social cons keep trying to wrap themselves in the mantle of victimhood. Rod Dreher kept the fires burning this month with two separate postings of the same footage of a peaceful, if noisy, demonstration against Christian zealots in the Castro from a year ago.
That's literally the best they can come up with: recycling the exact same year-old Youtube video over and over again as they whine and cry about how oppressed they are.
If people weren't getting beaten in the fucking streets, it would be almost comical. As it is, it's just pathetic how meaningless their so-called faith becomes as soon as a chance to bash gays turns up.
That's literally the best they can come up with: recycling the exact same year-old Youtube video over and over again as they whine and cry about how oppressed they are.
If people weren't getting beaten in the fucking streets, it would be almost comical. As it is, it's just pathetic how meaningless their so-called faith becomes as soon as a chance to bash gays turns up.
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"Meanwhile, social cons keep trying to wrap themselves in the mantle of victimhood."
How dare they steal the gays schtick!!
"Meanwhile, social cons keep trying to wrap themselves in the mantle of victimhood."
How dare they steal the gays schtick!!
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@21: When Christianbashing is as common and nasty as gaybashing, when we have to pass laws to prevent people from discriminating against Christians, when Christians can be kicked out of the armed forces for admitting they're Christians, and when society prevents Christians from having the rights of marriage, you can call it a "schtick".
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Loveschild @17:
READ THE FUCKING REPORT, YOU DUMBSHIT MORON.
Also, what do you suppose the number of minorities in Los Angeles County is? Do you think that number might be larger than the number of gays and lesbians?
God gave you a brain--USE IT.
READ THE FUCKING REPORT, YOU DUMBSHIT MORON.
There was another group of hate crimes prompted by Proposition 8, the constitutional amendment that banned same-sex marriages. The public debate around Prop 8 triggered 9 anti-lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (LGBT) crimes. 5 of these crimes were acts of vandalism in which opponents of Prop 8 had their property targeted by homophobic (and in 1 case, anti-black) graffiti. In addition, there were 4 violent crimes.
Also, what do you suppose the number of minorities in Los Angeles County is? Do you think that number might be larger than the number of gays and lesbians?
God gave you a brain--USE IT.
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