Friday, November 6, 2009
Election God Is Smiling on Referendum 71
Posted by Dominic Holden on Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM
- Baconcat
But Valerie Hartwell, co-Pastor of the Rivers of Glory Christian Church, said in an email to the Olympian, "Seeing the manifold Hand of God on our behalf time and time again, we cannot help but remain strong in faith that our Lord will see us through again." However, Baconcat sent the photo to the right and says, "He supports R-71." Indeed, He sure does.
Washington Poll also released details an R-71 poll conducted in late October. The presentation looks at how religious views, exposure to gay friends, and biases affected voter opinions about R-71.
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The thunder, lightning and hail was God telling the No on 71 folks that she wanted them to move on and stop trying to thwart her will.
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Almost right, "Pastor" Hartwell of Rivers of Glory "Christian" "Church." What you meant to say is that God will see through you.
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In order for their prayers to work, God would have to actually go back in time and change the way people voted. It is amazing how irrational these people are.
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I love the new charts posted on the UW poll for R71, especially religion! If you attend church every single Sunday, only 20% voted Yes on R71, however if you never attend church at all (hooray) then you voted 75% Yes on R71 -- awesome!
http://www.washingtonpoll.org/results/re…
http://www.washingtonpoll.org/results/re…
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The ballots have been cast already. There's nothing to pray for unless they want their god to change cast ballots or meddle with the counting process, but that would be extremely unamerican and undemocratic, so they certainly aren't praying for that are they?
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Christians who proclaim loudly about how much they pray are just trying to convince everyone how much holier they are.
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Got Gay? Ok, here's another interesting nugget in the UW poll charts. If you claim to have no gay friends you clearly voted to reject R71. However, if you said you have gay friends, you voted in favor of R71. If you said you had more than 10 gay friends you voted over 80% Yes.
Our mission? To "friend" you! Let's get out there and start making friends with all those god-loving people east of the cascades!
Our mission? To "friend" you! Let's get out there and start making friends with all those god-loving people east of the cascades!
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YAY 71!
I'm out of work right now and seriously considering looking in to Washington jobs just for this reason, even though Seattle is a thousand miles away.
I'm out of work right now and seriously considering looking in to Washington jobs just for this reason, even though Seattle is a thousand miles away.
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I never know what to say to people. One could argue that their God loves Maine and hates Washington. One could say that their God despised my contributions to No on Q 1, but honored my contributions to Yes on R 71. Can one say they know the absolute truth? I don't think so, it's all subjective.
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By praying for R-71 to be rejected, Sticknet is in effect telling god to cheat. The votes are already in. There is a true tally of votes that is not yet known. The only thing god could do at this point is to change the ballots if he/she doesn't like the outcome.
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That slide deck is interesting. What is up with the 30% of people with gay friends who were voting no on 71? With friends like those...
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Well, technically the bigots could be praying that there's a huge pile of uncounted "no" votes just lying around in county elections offices, which may actually be true in all those sparsely-populated rural redneck counties. But, in order to "win" they would also need for an even larger pile of "no" votes to show up in King and the 9 other counties where R-71 is currently being approved.
So, if R-71 still passes despite their fervent prayers, my question to the anti-71 fundies is: "Does that mean your God doesn't in fact exist? Or does it mean (S)He hates your hypocritical, lying, bigoted guts? Or does it just mean your paltry concerns are too small for the Supreme Fucking Deity of The Universe to give a rat's patootie about?"
So, if R-71 still passes despite their fervent prayers, my question to the anti-71 fundies is: "Does that mean your God doesn't in fact exist? Or does it mean (S)He hates your hypocritical, lying, bigoted guts? Or does it just mean your paltry concerns are too small for the Supreme Fucking Deity of The Universe to give a rat's patootie about?"
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Please, keep praying. In fact that make that your main activity. None of that devils initiatives, referendi, or lobbying. Just sit in your churches and pray pray pray!
It'll work eventually if you have faith!
It'll work eventually if you have faith!
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I'm still gobsmacked that R 71 was approved, which is a pleasant surprise. I've never been happier to have been wrong about an election prediction in my life.
All praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Praise His Holy Noodles!
All praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Praise His Holy Noodles!
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Looks like that rainbow ends right at the KIRO building, so perhaps Susan Huchison is in for a miracle as well.
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At some point Clallam switched from "no" to "yes". Is it too late to hope for a swing of 500 votes in Mason, or 150 in Pacific?
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@18 - You can hide behind your "facts" all you want, the Signs are clear to me. My eyes are open!!
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it is so hysterical when hipsters think they are being provocative when the refer to god as she
it is so hysterical when hipsters think they are being provocative when the refer to god as she
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Well, looks like Pacific's only got 20 left to count, so no dice. Mason's got almost 2,500, so it's theoretically possible they could turn green. The big outstanding counties are Pierce and Snohomish (50,000+ each), which will presumably cancel each other out.
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God moves in mysterious ways. Unless He moves in ways that satisfy my hopes and validate my prejudices, in which case He moves in perfectly transparent and understandable ways!
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@23 its funny how hipster is becoming a catch-all statement, I also heard hipsters like baked goods and fuck with bear costumes....didn't you?
seriously dude(ette?), you're saying that all hipsters are femenists? what planet are you from?
seriously dude(ette?), you're saying that all hipsters are femenists? what planet are you from?
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I was honored to Moderate the Referendum 71 Television program. Larry Strickley did not attend- however Bob Struble did along with , Joseph Backholm, Roger Winters, Stuart Wilber and others.
You can clearly see even on this program the heat coming out of their ears.
Actually at one time, I had to tell everyone on set more less- to stop it, as they were attacking across the table.
Nonetheless, I believe that the program helped voters, with their choice by watching the program.
Watch them, let me know what you think.
Phone 206-736-9688
It is good food for thought now-, as we can celebrate across the state.
HORRAY! the People did speak, it just was not what protect marriage washington wanted to hear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTy_5rKNU… part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-_huOFUO… part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHcDu5iUO… part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjZUV0dUT… part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx4qV30Jz… part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uvsm0eCA… part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KncbRsUgm… part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwfPH9SyV… part 8
You can clearly see even on this program the heat coming out of their ears.
Actually at one time, I had to tell everyone on set more less- to stop it, as they were attacking across the table.
Nonetheless, I believe that the program helped voters, with their choice by watching the program.
Watch them, let me know what you think.
Phone 206-736-9688
It is good food for thought now-, as we can celebrate across the state.
HORRAY! the People did speak, it just was not what protect marriage washington wanted to hear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTy_5rKNU… part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-_huOFUO… part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHcDu5iUO… part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjZUV0dUT… part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx4qV30Jz… part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uvsm0eCA… part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KncbRsUgm… part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwfPH9SyV… part 8
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I like LovesChoad he/she seems so much more positive than the other poster with a similar name/icon. When I first clicked on the comments I was fully expecting that post to bring the hate, but it didn't.
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#27 FTW.
You know, the logic is just circular on this whole thing.
They're opposing domestic partnerships because God wants them to, but when it appears that they may lose, they're begging God to hork up a miracle so that they can win, because winning would result in Washington State following God's will. So why would they need to ask God to do this, anyway, when it was God who told them to run the referendum in the first place?
Do they even listen to themselves?
You know, the logic is just circular on this whole thing.
They're opposing domestic partnerships because God wants them to, but when it appears that they may lose, they're begging God to hork up a miracle so that they can win, because winning would result in Washington State following God's will. So why would they need to ask God to do this, anyway, when it was God who told them to run the referendum in the first place?
Do they even listen to themselves?
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Maybe instead of praying for R-71 to be rejected, they should pray that R-71 doesn't destroy marriage and society in its entirety. Then, when everything works out fine, they can feel like they accomplished something.
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Thanks @31.
Don't expect me to be really quiet, especially when there's choads out there to mock and counter with logic.
Don't expect me to be really quiet, especially when there's choads out there to mock and counter with logic.
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