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Tuesday, November 3, 2009

The Numbers Still Have Ref. 71 Passing....

Posted by The Stranger Election Control Board on Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM

...but here's an alarming image:

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Joe Szilagyi 1
Thank God civil rights win by virtue of population density... so far.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://www.joeszilagyi.com on November 3, 2009 at 9:24 PM
TheRain 2
I don't think that the 50 outstanding votes in Garfield County will tilt this thing.
Posted by TheRain on November 3, 2009 at 9:25 PM
3
Looks like Gregoire's victory in 2004 and we know how close that was. Only saving grace: We're winning Snohomish County. As Snohomish goes, so goes the rest of the state.
Posted by velvetsmog on November 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM
PedestrianMe 4
The green has neighborhoods and the yellow has strip malls.
Posted by PedestrianMe http://carfreeusa.blogspot.com on November 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM
kim in portland 5
Oh, Clark County. Why?!
Posted by kim in portland on November 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM
6
You're surprised that Eastern and Southern Washington is full of bigots?
Posted by Biff Bifferson on November 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Asparagus! 7
@6

Cosigned.
Posted by Asparagus! on November 3, 2009 at 9:28 PM
8
Thank God for (most of) Western Washington. C'mon Pierce County, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Posted by Nic in Greenlake on November 3, 2009 at 9:29 PM
9
This is pretty much how the state is always divided. There were huge posters for Dino Rossi last year in Spokane that said "Don't let Seattle steal this election!" That's how most of Eastern Washington feels.
Posted by aquaeous on November 3, 2009 at 9:29 PM
PedestrianMe 10
The green can neatly be annexed by Canada and the yellow wouldn't notice due to their lack of (non-biblical) geographical knowledge.
Posted by PedestrianMe http://carfreeusa.blogspot.com on November 3, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Cracker Jack 11
@10: I'm sure they don't consider the residents of the green counties as "real Americans" anyway...
Posted by Cracker Jack on November 3, 2009 at 9:31 PM
laterite 12
Oh, Whitman County, why you gotta let me down like that?
Posted by laterite on November 3, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Joe Szilagyi 13
@10 Except all their governments would dry up and die without our money, and that's a scientific fact.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://www.joeszilagyi.com on November 3, 2009 at 9:31 PM
14
Please post % of vote in. Otherwise the numbers are not that helpful. Thanks and I hope we all win.
Posted by LarryLove on November 3, 2009 at 9:33 PM
bugwitch 15
It is not a fair and accurate assesment to look at the map in this way. Yes, it gives you a superficial perspective, but it is only superficial. By stepping up the Approve-71 campaign on the eastern part of the state, places which normally would have seen relatively low turnout by progressives has seen higher numbers.

I live in Kittitas county which isn't doing too well on the Equality and Common Sense issues on our ballot this year. HOWEVER, The additional 4,000 votes in this county to APPROVE R-71 is only going to help our cause.

If you add up all of those people who voted for approval who otherwise would have abstained, you will see that all of that yellow, isn't so red after all.
Posted by bugwitch on November 3, 2009 at 9:34 PM
john t 16
So that creepy vibe I get whenever I across the river into Clark County isn't just my imagination.
Posted by john t on November 3, 2009 at 9:38 PM
sidereal 17
Don't worry. Lentils still don't have the right to vote.
Posted by sidereal on November 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM
OutInBumF 18
Got that right @ 15!
I'm in Grant county, solidly 65-70% conservative all the way, every election, without fail. If R-71 gets even 35% Approval, it will be a big switch for this kind of issue.
My Faux News die-hard dad promised me he was going to vote to approve R-71, "because it's the fair and right thing to do for you/partner and others like you". Total shock.
Disappointing about Maine, tho. Nate Silver had that one going our way earlier today. What happened?
Posted by OutInBumF on November 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Pepper St. Tort Reform 19
I'm fucking ashamed of Eastern Washington - and I live here. I'm young, extremely progressive, and I vote - and I also happen to love living in a quiet, wide-open, beautiful place. This map makes me sick to my stomach. Thank god for Western Washington. Seriously - thanks, yall.
Posted by Pepper St. Tort Reform on November 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM
20
Yeah, this map contains almost no information. A useful map would show the gradients from green to yellow. if that were the case, most the state would probably be yellow green.
Posted by Kevin Erickson on November 3, 2009 at 10:10 PM
21
Clark County is choking full of mormons.
Posted by Spike Spiegel on November 3, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Steven Bradford 22
If you go to the Washington state website this map is from, you'll get a lot more useful information, by rolling the old mouse over the counties.

http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/Results…

http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/Results…
Posted by Steven Bradford http://www.seanet.com/~bradford/ on November 3, 2009 at 10:19 PM
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@20 - you know you can go here (http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/Results…) and view % results by county, right? It's not as good as a yellowish-greenish map, but it's something.

Posted by this guy I know in Spokane on November 3, 2009 at 10:19 PM
OutInBumF 24
Ditto @19
My optimism was dashed re: Grant County on R-71. 29.07% Yes! Too many Mormons and born-agains. Were it not for the quiet and sunshine, I'd be back in Seattle in a heart-beat.
Thank you King County for voting for things that my bumfuck county will never approve. They'll all be bitching for the next week at those sinfilled, depraved Seattle voters, approving sin in the name of fairness.
Posted by OutInBumF on November 3, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Toasterhedgehog 25
San Juan is approving 71 at a higher rate than King County. I know where I'm taking my big gay 3 day weekend vacations.
Posted by Toasterhedgehog on November 3, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Max Solomon 26
way to go clallam, you enlightened hicks!
Posted by Max Solomon on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Max Solomon 27
way to go clallam, you enlightened hicks!
Posted by Max Solomon on November 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Max Solomon 28
way to double post you stupid hick!
Posted by Max Solomon on November 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM
29
In 1996, when Washington had its republican primary or caucuses or whatever... Dole won Washington, but BUCHANAN won Spokane County. Just so you know.
Posted by this guy I know in Spokane on November 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM
bugwitch 30
@29
And knowing is half the battle...
Posted by bugwitch on November 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM
31
This map serves no purpose. Most of the counties are running are running close to a 50-50 split. Those "eerie feelings" you feel when crossing into a "yellow" county is your own prejuidicial bias. hopefully it passes, but this map is misleading and inaccurate without total count.
Posted by John B2 on November 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM
32
Nothing brings me more pleasure than the fact that the whole of rural Washington is politically held hostage, basically by the liberal Puget Sound area's massive population advantage. OK, there's one thing that brings me more pleasure: knowing how much they hate it but can't do diddly squat about it. Yay!
Posted by JenV on November 4, 2009 at 12:03 AM
33
I was just dieing to know: if all of the estimated votes left to count came out the same as the votes already counted, what would be the result?

After a bunch of typing numbers into a spreadsheet, resounding good news. Since King county is so big and so bad at counting votes quickly, the margin in favor goes from 22 thou to _46_ thou.

Yeah, it will vary as ballots come dribbling in, but I feel good. Beats watching the night get worse bit by bit in Maine.
Posted by spudbeach on November 4, 2009 at 12:38 AM
Will in Seattle 34
Pierce County for the dickwad award.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on November 4, 2009 at 12:43 AM
35
why can't we let idaho have the yellow? they'd probably like it.
Posted by Judith on November 4, 2009 at 2:01 AM
36
My only question is, why is post 10 before 9?
Posted by sall on November 4, 2009 at 7:51 AM
37
Rolling over counties on the original web page IS revealing. the margin in Pierce county is actually quite narrow, and the really frightening part of the state is the southeast. Garfield county anyone?
Posted by onion on November 4, 2009 at 7:59 AM
38
#21 - Can we set mormon traps and then release them into a better habitat for them?
(Utah)
Same goes for the Ken Hutcherson crowd. Ken can burn in hell for that Limbaugh ass licking piece he wrote recently.
Posted by BBCaddict on November 4, 2009 at 8:33 AM
39
They need to let the cows vote in Garfield and Asotin counties - really.

Good quote - "Oh, all the places that do not matter" - well said dear friend.

Our GLBT friendly King County must fuck with their heads completely. I do drink their wine and eat their lentils and wheat and peas.

Victory. Wow. Wow.

Posted by Clyde Ronson on November 4, 2009 at 8:39 AM
40
bummer for good Christian values
Posted by that1chick on November 4, 2009 at 8:56 AM
br@d 41
Wow, pretty disappointed in Spokane County, but REALLY disappointed in Pierce County. My mom called me at work from Tacoma about a week ago saying she was confused and did she want to approve or reject 71? She's a smart lady. Wonder if the ballot confusion worked for or against us.
Posted by br@d on November 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM
42
Maybe it's time to launch a buycott in E WA! Our community should only support those businesses that openly support GLBT issues! MONEY TALKS!!!!!!
Posted by MichaelM on November 4, 2009 at 9:27 AM
43
I am a supporter of CIVIL UNIONS. Take the church out of state policy. Go to your own church and have a union, or just go to the courthouse. Jesus works in mysterious ways. He is my gardner from Mexico. He works shirtless in the summer. I love Jesus.
Posted by Jason Williams on November 4, 2009 at 9:43 AM
44
Seattle and King County is THE population center. Although I grew up in Snohomish, I'm in King County and IMHO, in terms of where the population is most dense, so goes the rest of the state. King County is in fact the bellweather here.
Posted by CSM on November 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM
45
Remember Maine: Full Federal Equality Now!
By SHERRY WOLF

IN STARK contrast to the surge of pro-LGBT activism, and legislative and legal progress in recent months, Maine voters overturned equal marriage rights on Election Day by a margin of 53 percent to 47 percent.

Voter turnout of nearly 50 percent, local efforts by 8,000 volunteers—many of them straight—and a national blitz of phone banking to try to sway Mainers to uphold equal marriage was not sufficient to retain same-sex marriage in that state. Maine’s Question 1—similar to California’s Proposition 8 that reversed same-sex marriage rights in that state exactly a year ago—once again placed civil rights on the ballot, this time in an off-year election.

In Washington state, a new law that greatly expands the rights of LGBT couples—though doesn’t grant marriage itself—was approved by voters, but by an unexpectedly narrow margin of 51 percent to 49 percent.

The failure of the same-sex marriage forces in Maine’s No on 1 campaign to retain marriage equality passed earlier this year by the legislature highlights four central problems: 1) Civil rights activists are weakest outside of urban areas where the financial and institutional resources of the right can dominate rural politics; 2) President Obama and the Democrats have failed to deliver on their promise of “fierce advocacy” of LGBT civil rights; 3) LGBT rights must be enacted into law by the federal government; and 4) Civil rights should not be reduced to election fodder to be manipulated by well-financed bigots.

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NATIONWIDE, LGBT activists scrambled in a monumental effort to try to stop right-wingers in Maine from succeeding in what was often termed a “mini-Prop 8” effort that relied on money from the Catholic Church and blitzed the media with lies about how gay marriage would be taught in the schools and imposed on religious institutions.

Local groups will assess the No on 1 organizing efforts in coming weeks, but suffice it to say that despite what appears to have been an energetic and collaborative campaign, equal marriage has lost in every state it has been put to a popular vote—31 in all. Despite the fact that the No on 1 campaign, Protect Maine Equality, raised $4 million and the anti-same-sex marriage forces raised only $2.5 million, the strategy of statewide ballot initiatives plays to activists’ weaknesses, especially in non-urban areas.

In addition to the purposely confusing language used by the right in these initiatives—voting “yes” denied equality, voting “no” would have retained it—larger population centers create opportunities for activists to reach people in groups, as in Portland, Maine, where the vote was an overwhelming 73 percent against Question 1. At University of Maine’s Orono campus, 81 percent of students voted against taking away equal marriage rights, also showing the generation gap that persists on this question.

Similarly, in Washington state, it was urban King County that voted overwhelmingly for the “everything but marriage” referendum, while the less populated eastern part of the state voted against it.

Just three weeks after the massively successful LGBT National Equality March that drew more than 200,000 people demanding full federal equality now, conservatives are punching back. Right-wing bigots like Pat Robertson have attacked recently enacted federal hate crimes legislation, saying, “The noose has tightened around the necks of Christians to keep them from speaking out on certain moral issues.”

In the face of this hostility and legal challenges, the Democrats have been passive at best and hostile at worst. The White House and Congress have failed to deliver so far on promises to reverse decades of legal discrimination in federal and state laws.

When Attorney General Eric Holder was asked about Maine’s Question 1, he said that he and President Obama “are of the view it is for states to make these decisions.” Holder later said to one blogger, “I don’t really know enough about the referendum over there to comment.” As National Equality March organizer Cleve Jones said on MSNBC of President Obama’s silence on Question 1, “This is a far cry from the fierce advocacy he promised us in his campaign.”

Even more outrageous, not only did the Democratic National Committee (DNC) refuse to help finance the No on 1 campaign, but it expressed crass indifference to LGBT rights when the DNC’s organization “Organizing for America” (formerly known as “Obama for America”) e-mailed Maine voters the day before the election about getting involved…in the gubernatorial contest in New Jersey (which lost)!

The failure of the Democrats to hold onto huge gains made in the 2008 election in New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial races—and the flaccid response from Obama’s base in this off-year election—reveals that the inability of the Democrats in power to deliver on their promises is alienating progressives.

“President Obama and his team were zero help in this critical battle, and in the last week might actually have hurt us,” said David Mixner, long-time Democratic Party activist and initiator of the call for the National Equality March.

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MAINE’S REVERSAL on marriage equality proves once again the bankruptcy of the state-by-state, issue-by-issue strategy upheld by many establishment LGBT forces. This approach concedes that civil rights must remain on the precarious turf of the states, in a country where one Constitution is supposed to guarantee equal protection under the law.

Activists can no longer accept that LGBT civil rights can be attained outside the federal government. Even if Maine voters had rejected Question 1, most marriage rights like Social Security are only gained through the federal government and married LGBT people in Maine, as in the equal marriage states, would have remained second-class citizens under the law.

The right’s strategy of placing LGBT civil rights on state ballots for a vote places the battle for human equality on an unstable and hostile terrain. Why should anyone have to battle in each locality for equal treatment in a country where the Fourteenth Amendment—passed after the Civil War!—guarantees equal protection to all U.S. citizens? Why should LGBT people have to repeatedly reassert that we are equal human beings in every state and municipality 45 years after the Civil Rights Act prohibited discrimination?

Civil rights cannot wait for the approval of reactionaries. According to that logic, Blacks, too, should have waited for public opinion to catch up with their demands. But in 1968, one year after the Supreme Court struck down bans on interracial marriage as unconstitutional, Gallup polls showed that only 20 percent of Americans approved of marriages between Blacks and whites.

The failure of Maine’s No on 1 campaign highlights why the National Equality March demand for full equality in all matters of civil law in all 50 states must continue to be the rallying cry of grassroots activists across the country.

This is the Week of Initiative called by Equality Across America, the national network attempting to gather these groupings to map out a national strategy to continue this fight. In cities and towns across the country this week, activists will be marching and protesting this defeat in Maine—and celebrating victories in Washington state and Kalamazoo, Michigan, where pro-LGBT referenda passed.

Remember Maine. Get out and organize for full federal equality now!

SHERRY WOLF is the author of Sexuality and Socialism: History, Politics and Theory of LGBT Liberation (Haymarket Books, 2009) and was on the steering committee of the National Equality March.
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Posted by Zepol on November 4, 2009 at 4:41 PM
46
Totally embarrassed by Pierce County right now. College students not voting? Lots of conservative military folks? At least 47% of us tried...
Posted by Fraggle on November 4, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Steven Bradford 47
If you had told someone in 1994 that 47% of voters in Pierce county would in 15 years vote in favor of a full marriage rights domestic partnerships law, they would have asked you for the name of your dealer, because you obviously had access to some very good hallucinogens.
Posted by Steven Bradford http://www.seanet.com/~bradford/ on November 4, 2009 at 6:41 PM
48
Praying that equality wins over bigotry!
Posted by Jodi on November 5, 2009 at 6:22 AM

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