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News & ArtsTuesday, November 3, 2009
Election SECB Just Left the Approve 71 Party.
Posted by Stranger Election Control Board on Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:47 PM
We're pleased to say that things are picking up at the Approve R71 Party at Pravda on 10th Ave, and they haven't even seen the shiny blue check mark next to the tally on the state's election results site:
The unfortunate thing about the Approve R71 shindig is that the party's organizers aren't sharing any results with the pro-gay partiers, except for the occasional trip up to the podium to announce positive R71 results. SECB got a quick glimpse of the party's secret private control room: The organizers had a wall full of shiny, giant flat screens with websites from all over the internet showing results to the esteemed few. SECB tried to start a revolt to bring information to the masses, but people were too busy listening to Astrud Gilberto to care about the free dissemination of election results.
We ran into Jamie Pedersen (and his lovely partner) at the party and asked him how his election night was going. He threw us the good old "cautiously optimistic" canard, adding "It's not full equality, but it's a big step forward." So we asked him how he felt about the other races tonight. Pederson responded, "I'm very fond of Sally [Bagshaw], so I'm happy about that." And how about that wacky Tom Carr? Looks like he's getting routed, eh? "I'm not all that surprised," Pedersen said. "If both The Stranger and the Seattle Times are against you, then you're in trouble." He's so dreamy!
The SECB also met Monica Guzman for the very first time (so adorable! so fashionable!) and we met up with Slog commenters Baconcat and Will in Seattle. Baconcat was most helpful in getting us information about the results (the SECB has a T-Mobile phone, and we are currently very undelighted with our service). And how's your evening, Will in Seattle? "There's no parking! I had to park up at 15th and Denny." Well, at least you've got all your political bases covered. (Pic of Will's Coat-of-Many-Liberal-Colors after the jump.)
Now the SECB is dragging our two-block-radius-hack-alerted ass to Purr's all-purpose 43rd Dem party, where an operative informs us that "It's pretty much just another karaoke Tuesday." Sounds good to us!
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Hooray! Yeehaw! Weird how they're not sharing results, though. Single-issue voting is so red state.
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@2 Awww, he had to walk. Left foot. Right foot. And left again. That's hard for drivers to remember when their sense of entitlement clogs the brain.
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The fucking check mark doesn't mean anything, folks. It certainly doesn't mean they've called it. The state doesn't call elections, for one thing; they certify them afterwards. Networks call elections. And it's too early to.
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We left the 43rd Dem party at Purr after we realized no local affiliates are bothering to cut into regular programming with election results. And after my girlfriend drunkenly spilled a drink all over the both of us.
Viva democracy!
Viva democracy!
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http://www.wgme.com/newsroom/top_stories…
Between helping those who hadn't mailed in their ballots and doing some pro-family outreach to Maine (YES ON 1, YES FOR MAINE, YAY!), I had no time to check out Slog, I'm tired, but I gotta say it was a marvelous day and night
Despite of the outcome here (this is not over yet, (still votes need to be counted as it's close), I had the pleasure of urging wonderful people from the Motherland immigrant community to exercise their right as new American citizens, beautiful sisters and brothers that helped so much as well as many others who i had the pleasure to had a conversation about the truth of gay marriage with from Penobscot, we secured the family! Let this be a lesson to those seeing these numbers, we might have struggle in this battle but we can politically repel gay marriage when we make it clear as some of us helped to make it in Maine.
Don't be discouraged because the political fight for marriage in WA is not over, the radical lobby groups with the help of activist courts and rogue legislatures will go for the gold and will attempt to dismantle whatever is left of marriage in this state. So we must be prepared for the fight.
In the mean time lets rejoice in that we won Maine for the family, marriage between one man and one woman . As has been understood by all societies that have survived till this day and age has been protected in New England, it's a clear sign that when it is put before the voters
as opposed to imposed as has been in VT, MA, CT, NH, IO by courts and legislatures lobbied by activist groups, the people will make their voice heard. We must therefore secure those states that have no safeguard against the coming acts that will come by way of the courts.
Just remember, Gay marriage has never won at the ballot box in any state.
When we unite and let the people know, traditional marriage, the family, will always win.
In God's Love.
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Between helping those who hadn't mailed in their ballots and doing some pro-family outreach to Maine (YES ON 1, YES FOR MAINE, YAY!), I had no time to check out Slog, I'm tired, but I gotta say it was a marvelous day and night
Despite of the outcome here (this is not over yet, (still votes need to be counted as it's close), I had the pleasure of urging wonderful people from the Motherland immigrant community to exercise their right as new American citizens, beautiful sisters and brothers that helped so much as well as many others who i had the pleasure to had a conversation about the truth of gay marriage with from Penobscot, we secured the family! Let this be a lesson to those seeing these numbers, we might have struggle in this battle but we can politically repel gay marriage when we make it clear as some of us helped to make it in Maine.
Don't be discouraged because the political fight for marriage in WA is not over, the radical lobby groups with the help of activist courts and rogue legislatures will go for the gold and will attempt to dismantle whatever is left of marriage in this state. So we must be prepared for the fight.
In the mean time lets rejoice in that we won Maine for the family, marriage between one man and one woman . As has been understood by all societies that have survived till this day and age has been protected in New England, it's a clear sign that when it is put before the voters
as opposed to imposed as has been in VT, MA, CT, NH, IO by courts and legislatures lobbied by activist groups, the people will make their voice heard. We must therefore secure those states that have no safeguard against the coming acts that will come by way of the courts.
Just remember, Gay marriage has never won at the ballot box in any state.
When we unite and let the people know, traditional marriage, the family, will always win.
In God's Love.
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Loveschild, by "Motherland immigrant community" I assume you're referring to the neo-Nazi hate-crime gay-bashing Russian gangster community? I'm sure they just LOOOOOVE you. You realize that as soon as you turn your back they're laughing at you and washing their hands. They hate schvartzes almost as much as they hate faggots, you know. Good to see you working with your special people. Fucking moron.
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"Let this be a lesson" to you uppity Faggots.....Thanks for the lesson Loveschild. Sounds like language used during another Civil Rights struggle. One you might have heard of but never took to heart. You and your band of Radical Religious Extremists will one day be known as the backward ones, the hate filled one, the KKK in sheep's clothing.
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OK, so I'm a dork. And being a dork, I took the state's county-by-county tally of remaining votes to be cast here:
http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/VoterTu…
and multiplied them by the current county-by-county percentages here:
http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/Results…
and came up with this spreadsheet, which predicts about 24,000 net votes for Approve to come in:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=t…
Caveats: (1) the already counted vote in a particular county could be skewed and (2) two counties have - for the remaining count, and I don't know what that means.
http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/VoterTu…
and multiplied them by the current county-by-county percentages here:
http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/Results…
and came up with this spreadsheet, which predicts about 24,000 net votes for Approve to come in:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=t…
Caveats: (1) the already counted vote in a particular county could be skewed and (2) two counties have - for the remaining count, and I don't know what that means.
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Will is parked two blocks from my house!
I'm grabbing my soap bar, toilet paper and shaving cream and I'm heading out...I'm guessing his license plate is WinS or some such nonsense.
I'm grabbing my soap bar, toilet paper and shaving cream and I'm heading out...I'm guessing his license plate is WinS or some such nonsense.
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"Motherland immigrant community"...i just watched the remake of "V" so I'm guessing that would be similar to the Mothership immigrant community and all the haters are going back to their lizard ship to plot some more evil and hate and chow down on some hamsters...
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Loveschild, everything I'm reading about Maine is looking too close to call and possibly recount fodder. Even if you do win, I hope you take as much satisfaction as you can from barely squeaking out an election where the "liberal" party took very little effort to fight your position, which wouldn't have even needed people campaigning on it to win 60-40 less than ten years ago. Institutionalized homophobia is going extinct.
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@ 18 Sugar:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/U…
Maine has been secured for the family, the people were told the truth and they were able to make a well informed decision to vote their conscience.
@ 12 I was talking about the immigrants from the continent, my ancestral mother-land, of whom I had the pleasure to talk to a couple of times amongst the calls I made for STAND FOR MARRIAGE MAINE.
Have a goodnight all, I'm too tired but it has been worth it. This has been a big victory!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/U…
Maine has been secured for the family, the people were told the truth and they were able to make a well informed decision to vote their conscience.
@ 12 I was talking about the immigrants from the continent, my ancestral mother-land, of whom I had the pleasure to talk to a couple of times amongst the calls I made for STAND FOR MARRIAGE MAINE.
Have a goodnight all, I'm too tired but it has been worth it. This has been a big victory!
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No, he didn't take my photo in this instance.
I was busy screaming at the Secretary of State's fucking website, it was slow and is poorly maintained.
I cut out and went to karaoke a few minutes before 9.
I was busy screaming at the Secretary of State's fucking website, it was slow and is poorly maintained.
I cut out and went to karaoke a few minutes before 9.
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What truth? All you did was lie to the voters in Maine, repeatedly. That's how you win - you lie to people. You did it in CA, and you did the same thing in Maine. You can feel righteous now all you want, but we'll still come back to win in Maine again, and while God never really took much of a position at all on gay marriage, his stance on liars was pretty clear.
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Loveschild, your ancestors aren't from Africa. Your ancestors are from the sewers of the Deep South wherefrom crawled Byron De La Beckwith and Bull Connor and Dynamite Bob Chambliss and George Wallace and Orval Faubus. You've traded in your African heritage for a heritage of hate.
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@19..loveschild... sugar.. you would do well to listen to a voice from the motherland. a christian voice and recipient of the nobel prize
Desmond Tutu:
I came from a situation where for a very long time people were discriminated against, made to suffer for something about which they could do nothing--their ethnicity. We were made to suffer because we were not white. Then, for a very long time in our church, we didn't ordain women, and we were penalizing a huge section of humanity for something about which they could do nothing--their gender. And I'm glad that now the church has changed all that. I'm glad that apartheid has ended. I could not for any part of me be able to keep quiet, because people were being penalized, ostracized, treated as if they were less than human, because of something they could do nothing to change--their sexual orientation. For me, I can't imagine the Lord that I worship, this Jesus Christ, actually concurring with the persecution of a minority that is already being persecuted. The Jesus who I worship is a Jesus who was forever on the side of those who were being clobbered, and he got into trouble precisely because of that. Our church, the Anglican Church, is experiencing a very, very serious crisis. It is all to do with human sexuality. I think God is weeping. He is weeping that we should be spending so much energy, time, resources on this subject at a time when the world is aching.
'. "Churches say that the expression of love in a heterosexual monogamous relationship includes the physical, the touching, embracing, kissing, the genital act - the totality of our love makes each of us grow to become increasingly godlike and compassionate. If this is so for the heterosexual, what earthly reason have we to say that it is not the case with the homosexual'
'A parent who brings up a child to be a racist damages that child, damages the community in which they live, damages our hopes for a better world. A parent who teaches a child that there is only one sexual orientation and that anything else is evil denies our humanity and their own too,"
http://straightnotnarrow.blogspot.com/20…
http://www.afrol.com/articles/13584
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Desmond Tutu:
I came from a situation where for a very long time people were discriminated against, made to suffer for something about which they could do nothing--their ethnicity. We were made to suffer because we were not white. Then, for a very long time in our church, we didn't ordain women, and we were penalizing a huge section of humanity for something about which they could do nothing--their gender. And I'm glad that now the church has changed all that. I'm glad that apartheid has ended. I could not for any part of me be able to keep quiet, because people were being penalized, ostracized, treated as if they were less than human, because of something they could do nothing to change--their sexual orientation. For me, I can't imagine the Lord that I worship, this Jesus Christ, actually concurring with the persecution of a minority that is already being persecuted. The Jesus who I worship is a Jesus who was forever on the side of those who were being clobbered, and he got into trouble precisely because of that. Our church, the Anglican Church, is experiencing a very, very serious crisis. It is all to do with human sexuality. I think God is weeping. He is weeping that we should be spending so much energy, time, resources on this subject at a time when the world is aching.
'. "Churches say that the expression of love in a heterosexual monogamous relationship includes the physical, the touching, embracing, kissing, the genital act - the totality of our love makes each of us grow to become increasingly godlike and compassionate. If this is so for the heterosexual, what earthly reason have we to say that it is not the case with the homosexual'
'A parent who brings up a child to be a racist damages that child, damages the community in which they live, damages our hopes for a better world. A parent who teaches a child that there is only one sexual orientation and that anything else is evil denies our humanity and their own too,"
http://straightnotnarrow.blogspot.com/20…
http://www.afrol.com/articles/13584
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@2 - I parked it way up on 15th and Denny where there was free parking. And left it there until many parties later.
Considering I spend more on insurance and license tabs than gas each year (other than the odd trip to Burning Man), I think I'm entitled.
Especially after a blowout win across the board tonight.
Nice 43rd party but the best food and wine (free) was at Mike O'Brien's party in the basement of Fremont Abbey.
Considering I spend more on insurance and license tabs than gas each year (other than the odd trip to Burning Man), I think I'm entitled.
Especially after a blowout win across the board tonight.
Nice 43rd party but the best food and wine (free) was at Mike O'Brien's party in the basement of Fremont Abbey.
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@28.. i was thinking of you too kim,,but of course in an entirely different way.. you're so very welcome. i'm so glad to share part of the morning with you
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Does this bill include all the liabilities of marriage as well?
Washington is a community-property state. And that sucks,
if there is any disparity in what the parties brought to the marriage.
If so, I feel bad for those affected, once the divorces start.
Say bye-bye to half your stuff/money.
Washington is a community-property state. And that sucks,
if there is any disparity in what the parties brought to the marriage.
If so, I feel bad for those affected, once the divorces start.
Say bye-bye to half your stuff/money.
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@24 rev, you would do more than better to hear and pay attention to the voices of a whole Continent rather than that of a sole individual, but since you want to focus on South Africa, lets listen to another christian voice who although has not gain the praises of Western institutions or people like you who run without hesitation at the call from gay white figure heads who have little regard or interest for people of African descent but only want to use our struggles and history to legitimize their behavior.
There's of course and endless sea of like minded voices both freedom fighters, and heroes of independence from white colonialism, religious figures and heads of state alike plus what is more important the regular folk in all the nation states thru the Continent. Again, you just rather pick from a single individual, whose views are not even reflective of his own nation much less of the whole Continent. The following is the prevailing sentiment in South Africa not in 2004 but 2009:
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/south…
Tho i don't agree with the bias mischaracterization on the article of the legitimate opposition to homosexual marriage, i know it's the view of the poster who probably has some interest in seeing things remain as such. Even if the indigenous population is against it. Alas... some things in South Africa have not changed since apartheid. Those of european ancestry still are on the imposition train of foreign ideologies.
That said, I abhor queer bashing and aggression of any kind to homosexuals. I believe they are children of God, just like me but that does not mean that people should not stand up and make their voices heard politically when something wrong is attempted. People give all sorts of "excuses" about genes and whatnot to do as they wish and that's fine until you actively seek to dismantle an institution like marriage.
Because what matters is the influence it has on children. The liberal nature of some societies on homosexuality can go to the extent of pre-determining for children that it's okay. Which is what people like you and Kim and your over-lord Savage want. That, frankly, is wrong. Children should be guided by two parents of different sexes. That's were an important institution like marriage enters the big picture and serves an important role to serve as a vehicle for that to happen in a healthy way. Along the way if they learn of these controversial issues, then fine, but to be brought up in a society by two people of the same sex is a definite no-no if we want to keep a stable flow in society.
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12/10/2004
"The Archbishop of Cape Town has criticised as un-Christian a court decision that paves the way for gay marriages in South Africa.
The Most Rev Njongonkulu Ndungane stated that the November 30 ruling by South Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal that the common-law definition of marriage should be changed from a "union between a man and a woman" to a "union between two persons" was contrary to Christian teaching.
As far as we are concerned as a church, our understanding of marriage is between a man and a woman. And as a church, and the Anglican Church in particular, we have said no to same-sex unions" Archbishop Ndungane told the press.
The Christian teaching is that marriage is between a man and a woman. And therefore that is where the Church is," he said.
The ruling comes after a survey investigating social attitudes in South Africa recently revealed that 78 per cent of respondents believed it is always wrong for two adults of the same sex to have sexual relations.
The new research, which analyses the results of the 2003 South African Social Attitudes Survey, shows that only five per cent of South Africans said they saw nothing wrong with two adults having same-sex relations, it was reported."
There's of course and endless sea of like minded voices both freedom fighters, and heroes of independence from white colonialism, religious figures and heads of state alike plus what is more important the regular folk in all the nation states thru the Continent. Again, you just rather pick from a single individual, whose views are not even reflective of his own nation much less of the whole Continent. The following is the prevailing sentiment in South Africa not in 2004 but 2009:
“People are just not prepared to let it go,” said Steve Swart, a member of parliament representing the African Christian Democratic Party. “Legislation was passed. Legislation can always be relooked at.”
“To my knowledge the overwhelming majority of people were against same-sex marriage being legalized in South Africa under any circumstances,” said Errol Naidoo, president of the Family Policy Institute, an organization that promotes conservative family values."
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/south…
Tho i don't agree with the bias mischaracterization on the article of the legitimate opposition to homosexual marriage, i know it's the view of the poster who probably has some interest in seeing things remain as such. Even if the indigenous population is against it. Alas... some things in South Africa have not changed since apartheid. Those of european ancestry still are on the imposition train of foreign ideologies.
That said, I abhor queer bashing and aggression of any kind to homosexuals. I believe they are children of God, just like me but that does not mean that people should not stand up and make their voices heard politically when something wrong is attempted. People give all sorts of "excuses" about genes and whatnot to do as they wish and that's fine until you actively seek to dismantle an institution like marriage.
Because what matters is the influence it has on children. The liberal nature of some societies on homosexuality can go to the extent of pre-determining for children that it's okay. Which is what people like you and Kim and your over-lord Savage want. That, frankly, is wrong. Children should be guided by two parents of different sexes. That's were an important institution like marriage enters the big picture and serves an important role to serve as a vehicle for that to happen in a healthy way. Along the way if they learn of these controversial issues, then fine, but to be brought up in a society by two people of the same sex is a definite no-no if we want to keep a stable flow in society.
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@24 I take heart in knowing that the gay marriage imposition upon the people of South Africa will be reversed soon.
I could say that the tide is turning but that would be a misnomer on my part since the tide has always been on our favor there, it has just been ignored.
But as the article showed that won't stand for long. Surely as they see places like Maine were the people voiced their values and sent a message to successfully repeal an imposition, they too in South Africa will demand their government to let them be heard in the ballot. When that happens, there's no doubt that one man and one woman marriage will be the law of the land there.
I don't know you but i love you brother, no matter the insults you've thrown at me here. There are no ill wishes in my heart for you nor even for others here who don't have our same background. I forgive you and wish nothing but real happiness for you. In God's Love.
I could say that the tide is turning but that would be a misnomer on my part since the tide has always been on our favor there, it has just been ignored.
But as the article showed that won't stand for long. Surely as they see places like Maine were the people voiced their values and sent a message to successfully repeal an imposition, they too in South Africa will demand their government to let them be heard in the ballot. When that happens, there's no doubt that one man and one woman marriage will be the law of the land there.
I don't know you but i love you brother, no matter the insults you've thrown at me here. There are no ill wishes in my heart for you nor even for others here who don't have our same background. I forgive you and wish nothing but real happiness for you. In God's Love.
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Loveschild @ 32,
Do you think you could make your point, without including me.
Come on, I can't be that interesting, you can find a more worthy subject. I'm flattered by your attention and your high praise, but frankly your not my type. I like men with gray in their hair and laugh lines, and a passion for social justice and compassion.
Thank you, but no thanks.
Do you think you could make your point, without including me.
Come on, I can't be that interesting, you can find a more worthy subject. I'm flattered by your attention and your high praise, but frankly your not my type. I like men with gray in their hair and laugh lines, and a passion for social justice and compassion.
Thank you, but no thanks.
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@ 32, perhaps you need to go to the library and remind yourself what "good Christian folks" had to say about Blacks marrying Whites not so long ago. And how, even when the Supreme Court made its ruling in Loving v. Virginia, a majority of Americans said it was wrong.
And then perhaps you'd like to remind yourself of the Biblical quotes that were used by oh so many Southern preachers to justify maintaining slavery, since it was clear to any wise and good Christian that the "Colored man" could never be an equal in our society.
But, sure, you go and comfort yourself with your biased and fucked up views of Scripture...
And then perhaps you'd like to remind yourself of the Biblical quotes that were used by oh so many Southern preachers to justify maintaining slavery, since it was clear to any wise and good Christian that the "Colored man" could never be an equal in our society.
But, sure, you go and comfort yourself with your biased and fucked up views of Scripture...
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@24 loveschild..you do not love me. you lie.. or at best are mistaken...no .. it's a lie. you do not love me. the insults i gave you in the past were in response to insults you started. until i ran into you i had never in my half century of god given breath, ever told somebody to 'fuck off'. i never told anybody 'fuck you', you are my first. but you drew first blood. what ? a year ago you doubted that i was black.you do this with any other black person that disagrees with you or has a perspective you deem as un-christian. you doubt it now. you just now said that my thoughts are not my own, suggesting they come from a white faggoty 'overlord' ( and no you've never used the 'f' word, but you'd be way more honest if you did ) you don't credit me with the intelligence or good sense to make up my own mind. you've denigrated the validity of my experiences and called into question the sacredness of my partnership. you refuse to recognize your homophobia as hatred - and do not recognize it's victims. men and women and children who've paid with their lives the terrible terrible price of that hatred. you reject and distort your own history to fit your world view..( did you ever read about bayrad rustin when you suggested that gays where never part of the civil rights struggle ? ..no you didn't.. you looked it up in wkipedia and went on ignoring
it ) you're ignoring it now.. as you ignore or reject the views of desmond tutu and nelson mandela and coretta king. i told you to 'fuck off' and 'fuck you' because you've equated my sexual orientation ( not my choice ..but whatever ) with pederasty,child molestation, rape and beastiality. you said exactly all those things. verbatim. you called me/us 'wicked' and then say that some of us are 'your freinds'. did you think that i never heard that ? did you forgot that you said it ?. and you never ever show your face. your rantings are so varied and inconsistent, i've come to believe that you're the same demon as that new testament 'legion' because you are so many. i would drive you into a heard of pigs if i ever met you. some folks who are fairly new to slog have yet to figure this out but many more of us have read your bile spewing for some time.
and then you say you love me. have you no shame for telling a lie and calling it love.? you're a heinous fucking liar. the worst kind really. you haven't evidenced one dot or tittle of compassion on slog for any of us in our struggle. you declared war on us. did you forget that you said that ? i didn't.
i remember reading that in the end times there is a devil who will masquerade as an angel of light to deceive the innocent...but i am not innocent.
or stupid.
i've learned much from scriptures. read them . studied them fairly thoroughly. for years. there is nothing that you've said or extolled that remotely resembles what i've gleaned from either scripture or deep fervent prayer. loveschild you're a charlatan and a liar.and saying you're a christian and you love people doesn't hide this. saying you love me doesn't negate this. god is not mocked and i am not fooled. your love is a white washed tomb, shining and clean on the outside, but consumed with worms and decay on the inside.i KNOW love and your love is a lie
be gone..before somebody drops a house down on you.
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it ) you're ignoring it now.. as you ignore or reject the views of desmond tutu and nelson mandela and coretta king. i told you to 'fuck off' and 'fuck you' because you've equated my sexual orientation ( not my choice ..but whatever ) with pederasty,child molestation, rape and beastiality. you said exactly all those things. verbatim. you called me/us 'wicked' and then say that some of us are 'your freinds'. did you think that i never heard that ? did you forgot that you said it ?. and you never ever show your face. your rantings are so varied and inconsistent, i've come to believe that you're the same demon as that new testament 'legion' because you are so many. i would drive you into a heard of pigs if i ever met you. some folks who are fairly new to slog have yet to figure this out but many more of us have read your bile spewing for some time.
and then you say you love me. have you no shame for telling a lie and calling it love.? you're a heinous fucking liar. the worst kind really. you haven't evidenced one dot or tittle of compassion on slog for any of us in our struggle. you declared war on us. did you forget that you said that ? i didn't.
i remember reading that in the end times there is a devil who will masquerade as an angel of light to deceive the innocent...but i am not innocent.
or stupid.
i've learned much from scriptures. read them . studied them fairly thoroughly. for years. there is nothing that you've said or extolled that remotely resembles what i've gleaned from either scripture or deep fervent prayer. loveschild you're a charlatan and a liar.and saying you're a christian and you love people doesn't hide this. saying you love me doesn't negate this. god is not mocked and i am not fooled. your love is a white washed tomb, shining and clean on the outside, but consumed with worms and decay on the inside.i KNOW love and your love is a lie
be gone..before somebody drops a house down on you.
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