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Crime / Two-Block Radius Not a Good Day to Be Driving This Car
Posted by Eli Sanders on Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:29 PM
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There's currently a large police response near 11th and Pike for a traffic stop involving a car that fits the description of the car used in Saturday's murder of officer Timothy Brenton. A Stranger intern saw the driver of the car (a beat-up Chevy Monza) being ordered out of his vehicle by multiple officers with guns drawn. They made him put his hands above his head, walk backward away from the car, and kneel in the roadway—after which he stood behind a police cruiser, handcuffed, as officers inspected the grill of his Chevy.
- E.S.
Police at the scene wouldn't comment, but they could be overheard saying that the car matched what they were looking for. No bullet holes on the vehicle, though, and nothing but a bemused expression on the face of the driver, who appeared to be thoroughly cooperating with the officers.
UPDATE: And now, not long after it began, it's all over. The street's cleared of police cars, the beat up Monza is gone, and police spokesman Jeff Kappel says that while officers are of course going to be stopping a lot of cars that look like the one above, this stop, in the end, "was probably nothing."
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So, this guy got cuffed at multiple gunpoints because he's driving a small whitish, grayish, or bluish car? Nice.
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What's that plate in the photo? 017WRY? Or something else?
Nothing listed for that 017WRY at http://web1.seattle.gov/courts/cpi/
Nothing listed for that 017WRY at http://web1.seattle.gov/courts/cpi/
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This is what passes for clever these days? What kind of sick freak runs out and buys the same kind of car used in the shooting? Kitschy irony aside, give it a week, for christ's sake! Two weeks if you have half a heart. Doesn't it make you feel old to think what the kids today think is cool?
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Y'all bashing the cops: what do you propose they do differently? They're looking for someone who, best we can tell, wants to kill cops specifically, and they don't know much about the person except what they were driving. If you were the guy who was ordered to make that traffic stop by your boss, wouldn't you be a little cautious?
Shit, I know some cops can be assholes, but they're also just people.
Shit, I know some cops can be assholes, but they're also just people.
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Chevy Monza's got to be on the short list of worst cars ever, right? This is the kind of doors-falling-off overpowered underdesigned piece of shit that destroyed Detroit. I can't believe there are still some on the road. They've got to be almost as rare as AMC Pacers.
Commenters are nuts. This is the very picture of a reasonable search. Remember this guy is loaded for bear and just killed their brother. What are they supposed to do, wave?
Commenters are nuts. This is the very picture of a reasonable search. Remember this guy is loaded for bear and just killed their brother. What are they supposed to do, wave?
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@9 for the win
@ 4, @ 6.. Sigh...give me a fucking break. You'd prefer, what response, exactly, for future murder investigations?
@ 4, @ 6.. Sigh...give me a fucking break. You'd prefer, what response, exactly, for future murder investigations?
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So this is entirely hearsay, but I'm repeating it here.
A friend of mine has a brother in the SPD. He told her that there have been suspicious, seemingly coordinated attempts to murder police officers in Seattle recently, but they aren't being reported in/to the media, presumably to prevent discouraging a gloryhound murderer/assassin. She said specifically there have been pipe-bombs found under police cars, and that it is suspected to all be connected.
I am dubious.
She also said the attacker at 29th and Yesler knew how to avoid the on-board camara on the police car that was attacked, implying the attacker meticulously planned their crime.
I am still dubious, because this is hearsay.
But I can not WAIT for this piece of shit to get caught.
A friend of mine has a brother in the SPD. He told her that there have been suspicious, seemingly coordinated attempts to murder police officers in Seattle recently, but they aren't being reported in/to the media, presumably to prevent discouraging a gloryhound murderer/assassin. She said specifically there have been pipe-bombs found under police cars, and that it is suspected to all be connected.
I am dubious.
She also said the attacker at 29th and Yesler knew how to avoid the on-board camara on the police car that was attacked, implying the attacker meticulously planned their crime.
I am still dubious, because this is hearsay.
But I can not WAIT for this piece of shit to get caught.
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#2 I sort of think this is a good thought. Police officer gets shot to death, all hell is released to find the killer, as it should be. Citizen Nobody gets shot to death and 30 minutes after the fact a single Patrol car shows up and determines a shooting has taken place. End of story. I suppose when it's one of your own the effort to find the killer is greater.
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One thing is clear: They have no fucking idea who did this.
Eventually, someone will brag, and someone else will tell, and they will catch the perp. Until then, leave your greyish/whitish/bluish cars at home and don't make any sudden movements around cops.
Eventually, someone will brag, and someone else will tell, and they will catch the perp. Until then, leave your greyish/whitish/bluish cars at home and don't make any sudden movements around cops.
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"A New Day In America!", of course not!
This is just the way they react when one of their gang killed.
Would any street gang act differently?
This is just the way they react when one of their gang killed.
Would any street gang act differently?
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This sounds like reasonable behavior, given what just happened to one of their own.
The perp is obviously a cop-hater. If you were a cop, and there was one itty bit of a chance that a traffic stop was the cop-hater, wouldn't you be careful and paranoid as shit?
The perp is obviously a cop-hater. If you were a cop, and there was one itty bit of a chance that a traffic stop was the cop-hater, wouldn't you be careful and paranoid as shit?
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Er, I don't think there are very many Chevy Monzas in Seattle. Probably fewer the same color as the one that was used in the shooting. I'm sure the first thing the cops did was pull up all the Chevy Monzas in the DMV database that matched the description of the car and tracked them down. Their caution in the traffic stop is not unreasonable since the driver is potentially an armed killer. Since the guy wasn't roughed up, just cuffed n' stuffed for a short amount of time while the car was searched, you can't really cry 'brutality' on this one. It's pretty obvious they were just following procedure.
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@23 Or not. There is nothing in the police description of the shooter's vehicle to indicate that it was a Monza. In fact, it has been described as a "small, light-colored sedan, possibly a Toyota".
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@15: Friends were kidding yesterday that if the attackers avoided the onboard camera they must have taken off in reverse.
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It's stunning that innocent people driving a similar car to the killer could so easily end up with a bunch of guns getting pulled on them. That sounds pretty traumatic.
Although I'm not quite sure how differently they should respond, since they're dealing with a suspect that has proven to be so brazen. What a pickle
Although I'm not quite sure how differently they should respond, since they're dealing with a suspect that has proven to be so brazen. What a pickle
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@24 Riiiiiiiiiight - you're assuming the Seattle Times has all the information? You go with that, buddy.
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@27 - And your assumption is what? That SPD has a better description of the suspect's car than has been reported, and they are keeping it a secret?
Uh, OK.
Uh, OK.
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