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Friday, October 30, 2009

Real-Live Business Folks Talk about the Mayoral Candidates

Posted by on Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Though he has positioned himself as the business candidate, it's not clear Joe Mallahan has succeeded all that well in business. (The BBB gave T-Mobile an F rating while Mallahan was "Vice President of Customer Delight.") And it's not clear that success in business would translate into success in office.

But enough from the candidates. What do people in Seattle's business community think about Mallahan and McGinn?

Jeffrey Taylor, insurance agent for State Farm for over 10 years. His office is in the Columbia City/Seward Park neighborhood:

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I'm still making my decision. I haven't finished all my research yet. But I'm interested in mass transit—it helps my clients get to my business and helps them save money. I'm for extending light rail to the Eastside. A lot of my clients work there. Being from Chicago, I know that trains work. It makes for a smart city. I also want park-and-rides inside the city. It's a big issue for the Columbia City business district and not something Nickels supported.

Business experience can translate into political experience—if you have that elusive "it" and you're a good leader. But I'm not endorsing either candidate yet.

Frank Rizzo of Rizzo's French Dip in Ballard:

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  • That's Frank on the left.

I've been supporting McGinn for months. He seems like a down-to-earth gentleman, like he knows what he's talking about. He seems like a good man, not like he's in it for the money. He's not: "I'm gonna be the mayor and fuck all you guys." He wants to help the city and help the city's people—he's for the working man. He's not for the rich.

I've been putting McGinn stickers on all my sandwich bags, telling people: "Don't be a dope, make sure you vote!"

Bruce Herbert, chief executive and investment manager of Newground Social Investment on Queen Anne. (Herbert cut his teeth on Wall Street 26 years ago with Merrill Lynch, then opened his own shop. Newground has been around for 16 years.)

The fact that Joe has not voted is a deal-breaker. Would the FC Sounders hire a coach who has never played soccer? No wait—it's even worse than that. Would the FC Sounders hire a coach who not only has never played soccer, but has never watched it on TV? You start a political career by voting. Not by asking to be king of the hill without a record of past performance.

I also think Mike's new openness to the tunnel showed a degree of good judgment and humility—it's a good indicator. You have to deal with change.

Darryl Smith, realtor for Windermere in the Mt. Baker area for almost 15 years. He is also past president of the Rainier Chamber of Commerce, a South-Seattle business board, past chair of the Columbia City Revitalization Committee, board member of the Rainier Valley Community Development Fund, board chair of Great City, and a McGinn campaign volunteer.

Mr. Smith said many things about how McGinn would be good for business. A few excerpts:

Mike is in favor of keeping the head tax—that goes to fund fixes we need for sidewalks and transportation to make it easier for people to access business districts. It funds the stuff that makes business more accessible and it's only a few dollars a head. I know of no small business owners who have complained about—or even really notice—that head tax.

We opened a campaign office here in SE Seattle in King Plaza, in the heart of the Vietnamese and African business community. You need to put feet on the street all around the city to learn what the small business needs and challenges are. You have to go and listen to people—there is a lot of wisdom in those communities.

I honestly don't know what Mallahan offers. Michael came to the Rainier Valley Chamber of Commerce and Mallahan sent a surrogate. I hear from my friends on the Chamber that they felt bad for the surrogate. They had specific questions and all she could do was read from a prepared statement. She looked silly up there. It's too bad.

Tim Nuse, coordinator of the "Corporate Social Responsibility Team" at Starbucks and chair of the 34th district Democrats:

The business community is divided. It's interesting to see that executives are divided—but certain things are consistent. The head tax is a concern. For some businesses, the administrative costs to keep track of the data necessary to pay it appropriately is actually more money than the head tax itself. A lot of businesses want to contribute what they owe, but want to do it a more efficient way.

Another issue is transportation—major concerns there. But both candidates have areas that cause concern. For many retailers, specifically the food industry, packaging is an issue. The city is trying to do good things for the environment, but some of the choices they're making aren't better for the environment and are a burden on businesses.

I was in the room with Starbucks executives when they met with both candidates, but I'm not a spokesperson so I cannot comment on any details from that.

Len Davis, Pangeality Productions in the Rainier Valley:

Barack Obama was a lawyer without much business experience. Did that make him a less attractive candidate? No. I'm pretty excited McGinn has an opportunity to win this election and put Seattle on a different footing, to be a global leader.

Brian Allen, a technology consultant for green building and renewable energy, based in West Seattle. Before starting his own shop here, he worked in Latin America for Chiquita Banana and Morgan Stanley, helping with IT and infrastructure build-out.

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Having come from a corporate background and having lived around the world, I look at Mallahan and see someone who wants to be the strongman—almost a caricature of the business guy who thinks he can manage city government like a company.

I fear what will happen with Mallahan. Think about transportation. I've been following the oil markets for years and production in the Middle East. And he's betting on cars and highways—that's a terrible idea. I'm not seeing creative, long-term thinking from Mallahan.

The head tax? That's $15 a head. Give me a break. And it goes to pedestrian stuff and bicycle stuff. You won't be saving much by nuking that tax, and you'll be doing some serious damage to the city.

McGinn is better at building an amazing team—and it's volunteer! Anybody can buy a decent team, but to build McGinn's team for free? Wow. As a manager, that inspires me. If McGinn gets in and Dow gets in and they see eye to eye, we might see some amazing changes in this city.

The most telling quote comes from Tim Nuse at Starbucks. He was in the room while Starbucks executives interviewed the candidates (individually) and says: "The business community is divided. It's interesting to see that executives are divided."

Business executives are supposed to be the Mallahan stronghold—but they're divided. Good news for McGinn.

The runner-up quote, from Len Davis: "Barack Obama was a lawyer without much business experience. Did that make him a less attractive candidate? No."

 

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Baconcat 1
BUT MALLAHAN WILL BUILD A TUNNEL.

And... stuff.

Good stuff.

I promise! He's got plans that he's planning on planning to make. Moving forward.
Posted by Baconcat on October 30, 2009 at 11:26 AM
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Brendan - great article. I wish more media outlets would cover this issue in this campaign.

I am partners in several small businesses, and McGinn has the ideas that will support Seattle small business. Mallahan on the other hand scares me. I don't see how he has any understanding of small business. What he brings to the table is just knowledge of how a company with a horrid record with customers and employees operates. And even then, I'm not too certain he actually had too much to do with that operation. And he doesn't vote or get involved in the community.

I'm a small business owner, and I'm voting for McGinn. If you care about jobs and the economy, McGinn should get your vote too.
Posted by Meinert on October 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM
3
Looks as though the whole gosh darn city is voting for McGinn. It's gonna be a landslide! (Credulous hacks.)
Posted by Oneway on October 30, 2009 at 11:51 AM
bitchslap 4
Mallahan will win by 10...just saying.
Posted by bitchslap on October 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM
crazycatguy 5
I guess Brendan forgot to mention to Mr. Herbert that McGinn has also not voted in 4 elections. Just like Mike forgot to mention it to Joe when he was lecturing him on the subject.
Posted by crazycatguy on October 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Will in Seattle 6
There's a big division between business owners you like a functional city (McGinn) and ones who want a taxpayer handout paid for by the rest of us (Mallahan).

Not that the tunnel will be that great even for that.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM
7
Will the Stranger be reporting this ad... I mean "article" as an in-kind donation to the McGinn campaign?
Posted by More Pie on October 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM
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I'm surprised more small business owners aren't wowed by Mallahan's plan to drive efficiencies. What's wrong with you people? He's driving efficiencies right to your door! Don't you want efficiencies? After Joe went to all the trouble of driving them over here?
Posted by Mallahan For Driver on October 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM
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Wait, you're telling me that a guy who worked for McGinn's nonprofit AND is volunteering for his campaign "said many things about how McGinn would be good for business" ???? Wow! What an interviewer you must be!
Agreed @ 3, SFCH alert is on high.
Posted by Frank N. Christ on October 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM
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So tired of Stranger ADVERTISING for McGinn. Your own polls on Wednesday show that your readers think that it is more likely that Mallahan will win, yet surprisingly you couldn't find a single business that has any interest in Mallahan. The idea for the article was a great one, too bad it completely undermined by poor reporting. Hell, I even voted for McGinn but the Strangers "information" on this race is so ridiculous.
Posted by Tired of hacks on October 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Will in Seattle 11
Awww, I guess you campaign staffers for Mallahan are too lazy to go out and doorbell, huh?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 30, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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You still don't get it. It's not simply the tunnel issue, it's that McGinn was too fucking blind to see how that issue was shaping up, and what would happen when he tied his populist campaign to it.

Many of us are not at all surprised at the double digit loss he's headed for, and that he couldn't see that coming speaks loudly to his critical weakness as a candidate.
Posted by SFCH bonus pointage on October 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM
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Brendan, your continued use of confirmation bias is getting old. Of course you were able to search out business leaders supporting McGinn or who were undecided, and of course those are the only ones you quoted for this.

Does anyone who isn't a SFCH think that every single person involved with business would be 100% behind one candidate? There are also environmental groups who have endorsed Mallahan. That doesn't negate McGinn's work with the Sierra Club.
Posted by serotonein on October 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Baconcat 14
Mallabots specialize in rationalizing and floundering.
Posted by Baconcat on October 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM
15
More, too much more.

The Stranger has become an out right shill.
Posted by Coffee Boy on October 30, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Will in Seattle 16
LOL, it's like they think just because they post as unregistered users we're not able to tell they or their spouse or bf/gf is literally being paid to work on the campaign.

Astroturfing only works in places that haven't destroyed a WTO round and aren't willing to question the paradigm. This is Seattle, bubba.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 30, 2009 at 1:38 PM
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So give us their real identities, Will, since you're so sure of it. I'm betting you're just talking pure crap again.

I know McGinn supporters get off on accusing anyone unwilling to fellate the chosen candidate as being a campaign staffer/partner of his opponent. Consider, though, that many of us don't think either candidate is very good & The Stranger's full-throated support is just as suspicious.

Some of us, those of us who live in Seattle as you say, want better local political coverage & hope our criticisms will eventually bear fruit.
Posted by serotonein on October 30, 2009 at 1:51 PM
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I posted above, and you're wrong Will, I'm paid even less than you for what I write. I have no affiliation other than as a voter. You need to take a look around you, sometime when you're not on Capitol Hill.
Posted by SFCH bonus pointage on October 30, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Will in Seattle 19
(dresses up in McGinn mask)

Boo!

(roflmao while all the Mallahan posters run screaming)
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Reality Check 20
@13 & @17

Teh Stranger is really pathetic on this non stop advertising for McGinn...

I sure hope McCan't gets investigated as to his role and Teh Stranger's free adverstising....err I mean stories as of late..

and how about them free banner ads at the top of the SLOG? Is Teh Stranger notifying the Election Board?

Hmmm I think it is time we take @7 's point and contact the proper authorities....
Posted by Reality Check http://www.nraila.org on October 30, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Reality Check 21
edit: that should have said @13 and @17 FTW!

As usual it takes a commenter to point out the obvious...

You guys are supposed to be professionals at Teh Stranger ?

right?
Posted by Reality Check http://www.nraila.org on October 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM
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To answer the criticisms here—I tried to be fair and contacted a variety of people from entrepreneurs to corporate executives in all kinds of businesses from investment to real estate to video production. I included people who were ambivalent and didn't hide any gung-ho Mallahan supporters under the bed... I just didn't find any. (I asked the Mallahan campaign for suggestions, but—surprise, surprise—didn't get any.)

Believe it or not, I share your frustration. The lead paragraph in my installment of the case for MM (from last week's paper).

"To be honest, I'm slightly chagrined to find myself writing the third installment of this Perpetual Adoration of Saint Michael. The Stranger has thrown so much unqualified weight behind the man, it's starting to get a little boring. The contrarian in me had hoped to come out swinging for Joe Mallahan just to break the tedium.

Nevertheless, here I am, endorsing Captain Beardo's culture platform, because—it cannot be denied—it beats Captain Cell Phone's."

We're for who we're for. We believe McGinn will make a superior mayor. Why should we apologize for that?
Posted by Brendan Kiley on October 30, 2009 at 5:27 PM
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I do not hear anyone talking about The Times bias?!
Mallahan has the money from $ powers to buy this election. Is that democracy??

I'm voting for Mike McGinn along with the voters on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXkNEolhT…
Posted by Francesca on October 31, 2009 at 1:08 AM
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I cannot vote for someone who 1. Doesn't vote; and 2. Cannot give me ONE DAMNED EXAMPLE OF ANYTHING HE HAS DONE TO MAKE SEATTLE BETTER (and selling sausages at a school fair because his kid's school REQUIRES the parents to put in some time does not count)!
Posted by Don't make me say this again on November 1, 2009 at 1:18 PM

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