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News & ArtsWednesday, October 28, 2009
Politics Mayor's Race by the Numbers
Posted by Dominic Holden on Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM
This is nothing but shameless propaganda from Mike McGinn's campaign:
McGinn has deliberately omitted Joe Mallahan's impressive numbers. For instance, there's zero mention of Mallahan's $666,035 in contributions. Zilch about his $700 donation from Holland America. Where's the box on the 689 times in debates he's said "driving efficiencies" or 387 times he's said that "Mike just doesn't get it"? Mike never recited corporate jargon. And those figures are missing. So are the 27 years that Mallahan's Wallingford Wurst Fest has been serving wieners of civic pride. And what about the six blocks Mallahan drives to work? Those are long-ass blocks, Mike. Why didn't you mention them?
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Don't forget the most important number that many of are hoping for after election day: McGinn 54%, Mallahan 45%, 1% everyone else.
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Mallahan's Wallingford Wurst Festival is a fundraiser for a conservative Catholic church and school. They host anti-abortion groups and have hosted Ken Hutcherson. No civic pride there.
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Calling election news from Stranger reporters "nothing but shameless propaganda from Mike McGinn's campaign" is redundant.
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Why is McG so proud of those town halls? I think the biggest turn out he had was around 20 people. At least one didn't have anyone attend. Between this & the number of policy papers he's churned out, it's clear that McG values quantity over quality. He sounds like that guy in "Singles" who brags about how many phone numbers he's scored-- "But you never actually CALL any of them!" his friend says. And just because you make a big show of "listening" doesn't mean you actually hear people. It's remarkable how many people who have had close working relationships with Mike are publicly supporting Joe.
John Fox (I know I know) in today's Post Globe reported on his meeting with Mallahan:
"Mallahan readily and refreshingly acknowledges he has more to learn including from us, the neighborhoods and across a range of issues. McGinn I see as darn inflexible and not just on this key issue of growth. I sure saw that when he blindly supported the recent TOD bill sponsored by Futurewise and openly criticized our efforts to restrict the runaway growth that bill aimed to promote. McGinn seems very closed minded here and less likely to support mitigation to protect trees, open space, streams, and our existing low income housing stock. I think that will cross over to other issues too. He's a know-it-all and not in a good way. I also can't help getting the feeling that McGinn just is not competent enough to do the job nor are the people he would hire as his staff, whereas with Mallahan for better or worse that simply is not the issue -he is very competent."
(http://www.seattlepostglobe.org/2009/10/…)
Now love Fox or hate him, he's a force that the next mayor will need to deal with. And Mallahan has shown that, while he doesn't buy Fox's agenda, at least he'll let Fox feel like he's been heard, which is all any of us really want, right?
From what I've seen, it takes a big ole 2x4 (like a 9-0 vote by the city council and tanking poll numbers) to get Mike to "hear".
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John Fox (I know I know) in today's Post Globe reported on his meeting with Mallahan:
"Mallahan readily and refreshingly acknowledges he has more to learn including from us, the neighborhoods and across a range of issues. McGinn I see as darn inflexible and not just on this key issue of growth. I sure saw that when he blindly supported the recent TOD bill sponsored by Futurewise and openly criticized our efforts to restrict the runaway growth that bill aimed to promote. McGinn seems very closed minded here and less likely to support mitigation to protect trees, open space, streams, and our existing low income housing stock. I think that will cross over to other issues too. He's a know-it-all and not in a good way. I also can't help getting the feeling that McGinn just is not competent enough to do the job nor are the people he would hire as his staff, whereas with Mallahan for better or worse that simply is not the issue -he is very competent."
(http://www.seattlepostglobe.org/2009/10/…)
Now love Fox or hate him, he's a force that the next mayor will need to deal with. And Mallahan has shown that, while he doesn't buy Fox's agenda, at least he'll let Fox feel like he's been heard, which is all any of us really want, right?
From what I've seen, it takes a big ole 2x4 (like a 9-0 vote by the city council and tanking poll numbers) to get Mike to "hear".
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you're missing the biggest economic story of the year, or the decade, right now. something about some manufacturing company from around here?
oh wait that's jobs where people work with their hands 'n' stuff, plus it's not about Capitol Hill.
Never mind.
oh wait that's jobs where people work with their hands 'n' stuff, plus it's not about Capitol Hill.
Never mind.
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One of the most damning things about Mallahan, for me personally, is his lack of a voting record.
He didn't care enough to vote. That says a ton about his character.
He didn't care enough to vote. That says a ton about his character.
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@6 and @7 FTW
Funny the Stranger staff still isn't getting it? Of course we all know that is because they have their collective tongues so far up McGinn's a$$ they can't possibly be objective...
And now (as represented by this thread and other recent ones), they are wailing and crying sour grapes that their boy is falling in the real polls, and is the likely loser in a few weeks...
how can this be? If only they would ALL read SLOG to get their marching orders!
ohhh and for the record @8 brings up the point of the day
you might want to take note.... else one might justifiably think this rag is indeed only about certain advocacy topics that pertain to its narrowly defined list of special interests, and not about being a true regional news source.
Or so it seems to me.
Funny the Stranger staff still isn't getting it? Of course we all know that is because they have their collective tongues so far up McGinn's a$$ they can't possibly be objective...
And now (as represented by this thread and other recent ones), they are wailing and crying sour grapes that their boy is falling in the real polls, and is the likely loser in a few weeks...
how can this be? If only they would ALL read SLOG to get their marching orders!
ohhh and for the record @8 brings up the point of the day
you might want to take note.... else one might justifiably think this rag is indeed only about certain advocacy topics that pertain to its narrowly defined list of special interests, and not about being a true regional news source.
Or so it seems to me.
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@10: Compare your post with you, who can't vote in Seattle and whose only vested interest is outright opposition to The Stranger due to some strange fixation you have with it.
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The only important number is the $15,000 each voter will be out of pocket if Mallahan gets elected and builds his Billionaires Tunnel.
All the other numbers pale beside this one.
All the other numbers pale beside this one.
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Making fun of the turnout at a McGinn town hall only makes sense if you've never attended a City agency meeting. Quite often, their turnouts may be small as well. I went to a recent Parks Superintendent town hall where it was exciting that there were about 30 people (besides Staff) there.
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@13 once again, let's get this straight:
The language in that amendment, even if enforceable, was intended to set up a LID for property owners in the area of the tunnel.
The "$15K for every taxpayer in the city" idea is a canard.
The language in that amendment, even if enforceable, was intended to set up a LID for property owners in the area of the tunnel.
The "$15K for every taxpayer in the city" idea is a canard.
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@15: The LID process is nowhere near as straightforward as you propose and it's entirely appropriate to state the potential for a financing deal that requires taxation of the entire population of Seattle.
Mallahan has insisted he was shifting the tax burden off of downtown, so the logical conclusion would be an unease on his part in levying any kind of tax or financing option on that same area.
And the enforceability of the amendment is irrelevant, since the sponsor stated clearly that it was a bit of leverage to get support and to protect the state's interests if overruns did occur. It's rather unfortunate that people like Mallahan present themselves in this way, especially since the state has made a clear attempt at stacking both the council and mayor's office with people who would gladly pass an ordinance to form an LID.
Finally, the LID can be challenged legally throughout its entire process, something that makes those issuing bonds on the LID rather uneasy. It's possible to have concurrent challenges on the same matter, and for the purposes of due process, the LID would be held up in court if the volume of these challenges was great enough. Most savvy public works professionals would advise you not to attempt an LID where there is substantial opposition to a project.
So, no, not a canard.
Mallahan has insisted he was shifting the tax burden off of downtown, so the logical conclusion would be an unease on his part in levying any kind of tax or financing option on that same area.
And the enforceability of the amendment is irrelevant, since the sponsor stated clearly that it was a bit of leverage to get support and to protect the state's interests if overruns did occur. It's rather unfortunate that people like Mallahan present themselves in this way, especially since the state has made a clear attempt at stacking both the council and mayor's office with people who would gladly pass an ordinance to form an LID.
Finally, the LID can be challenged legally throughout its entire process, something that makes those issuing bonds on the LID rather uneasy. It's possible to have concurrent challenges on the same matter, and for the purposes of due process, the LID would be held up in court if the volume of these challenges was great enough. Most savvy public works professionals would advise you not to attempt an LID where there is substantial opposition to a project.
So, no, not a canard.
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@16 Once again Baconcat is the token "extra" registered poster who always defends SLOG.
As the churchlady on SNL .. "HOW innnnnnteresting?"
Me thinks thou ist a talking mouthpiece for the staff to reply/defend/support Teh Stranger staff's threads.
The coincidences are just tooooo convenient to be explained by another other excuse.
Funny how you think you know so much about me... and my "fixation" with Stranger topics.
LOL
As the churchlady on SNL .. "HOW innnnnnteresting?"
Me thinks thou ist a talking mouthpiece for the staff to reply/defend/support Teh Stranger staff's threads.
The coincidences are just tooooo convenient to be explained by another other excuse.
Funny how you think you know so much about me... and my "fixation" with Stranger topics.
LOL
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LOL! The only question left is whether Mallahan beats McGinn by double digits or just single digits. I see Joe got some major environmental endorsements today. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised to see an endorsement by Barack Obama.
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6ftw
"This is nothing but shameless propaganda from Mike McGinn's campaign:"
Is this the new Masthead Slogan for The Stranger?
"This is nothing but shameless propaganda from Mike McGinn's campaign:"
Is this the new Masthead Slogan for The Stranger?
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I went to two "town halls" - total attendance about 12. really non-events with a lot of McGinn saying 'we'll look into that'. I heard that no one showed at one of them.
Missing from that chart:
- total attendees at famed town halls
- cost to Satellites of building the west side light rail
- ok, finish BG when?
- Mallahan supports first hill streetcar!
- Will McGinn personally litigate the gun ban law suits?
- votes? who cares. Next - who did you vote for??
- the press has his cell phone number - big effin deal. are they asking any important questions or is the Stranger staff just using it for more BJ dates?
- DBT overruns - Mallahan has already publicly stated that he is working with legislators to address this. McGinn is only producing campaign literature.
Your coverage of this race is pathetic. The dopey readers who buy into your BS are even sadder...
Missing from that chart:
- total attendees at famed town halls
- cost to Satellites of building the west side light rail
- ok, finish BG when?
- Mallahan supports first hill streetcar!
- Will McGinn personally litigate the gun ban law suits?
- votes? who cares. Next - who did you vote for??
- the press has his cell phone number - big effin deal. are they asking any important questions or is the Stranger staff just using it for more BJ dates?
- DBT overruns - Mallahan has already publicly stated that he is working with legislators to address this. McGinn is only producing campaign literature.
Your coverage of this race is pathetic. The dopey readers who buy into your BS are even sadder...
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McGinn's idealism is great. This town thrives on people like Mike. That is one of the great characteristics of Seattle that I love. The mayor's job is to run this town to the satisfaction of its residents and businesses. McGinn should get a talk show or a write an opinion column (or just continue to run a strong advocacy group). He is a good man whom I respect. His role just shouldn't be mayor.
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