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Monday, October 26, 2009

Why Did the State Release the Viaduct Video—A Week Before the Election?

Posted by on Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Washington State Department of Transportation spokespeople claimed that they had to publicly release a fiery simulation of the viaduct collapsing in an earthquake because a private citizen requested it. "We're simply complying with a public disclosure request and by law we have to release it," WSDOT spokesman Ron Paananen told KING TV. But that's not exactly true. He tells The Stranger today that the state only had to provide the video to the citizen who requested it—in fact, the video that the state posted on YouTube is a different video than the one the citizen requested.

“Truth be told, I haven’t received the video,” says Elizabeth Campbell, the Magnolia neighborhood resident who filed the records request last month.

viaduct_disaster2.jpg

The alarming video—which has now circulated on all local media outlets—simulates the elevated freeway collapsing, the waterfront liquefying, fires consuming people and buildings, and cars tumbling into Elliott Bay. It gets to the heart of an incendiary issue in the mayor’s race: The longer we delay building a tunnel—or any viaduct replacement—the more likely this doomed scenario will befall the city.

Politically speaking, the video’s release seems to benefit mayoral candidate Joe Mallahan, who has pushed to build the tunnel as quickly as possible. Conversely, it seems to hurt challenger Mike McGinn, who has said he would allow the tunnel to proceed, but only with scrutinizing oversight. Mallahan has repeatedly said that McGinn would delay the project—and now, that delay implies widespread fatalities.

So why did this video come out eight days before the election?

WashDOT completed the video in June 2007, but kept it private because, “We felt it was a little too dramatic,” Paananen says. But WSDOT received Campbell’s request on September 23 for a “draft” of the video in addition to around 1,000 other documents. “We were looking through [the records request] and we decided what can we release when,” he says. He believes the agency applied to extend the 30-day limit on releasing documents because there were so many records. “Some of these requests get so big we have to get stuff lined up a little bit at a time to get it released,” he says.

“They have said that it would take six to eight months,” says Campbell. But she suspects WSDOT released the video now for political reasons. She says that the city council's bill supporting a tunnel, a high-profile ceremony with the mayor and governor, and the graphic portrayal of a viaduct disaster are all timed to make the tunnel seem like the "inevitable." She adds that the video's release is also geared to portray McGinn, who could delay the tunnel's construction, as a poor choice for mayor.

Cary Moon is a member of the viaduct stakeholder's group, which was a sounding board to state agencies regarding the best viaduct replacement. The group never recommended the tunnel, though some members gave the tunnel their blessing after the stakeholders finished their work. "I am really disturbed as a stakeholder that there was an increased risk of [the viaduct] failing and they never mentioned that this video existed," she says. "They picked the solution with the longest timeline to complete and the most risk."

Rather than simply release the draft video to Campbell—which, again, it still hasn’t done—WSDOT decided to post the video on YouTube and its website, with text and finishing touches that didn’t appear in the video requested. “We decided we should release the final video because it was completed,” Paananen says.

“I think they should have released it two years ago when they made it," says McGinn. "We all know the viaduct isn’t safe and needs to be taken down, and if they went through the expense of making a visual depiction of it, they should have shared it with the advisory group while they were deciding how to proceed."

So the state received a records request, told Campbell it could be up to eight months, decided to release the video in one month, and then—rather than simply release the video to the persons who requested it—decided to release a more detailed version publicly.

The decision behooves Governor Christine Gregoire—who has been a strong advocate for the tunnel and who has endorsed Mallahan. Her office also knew the video would be posted. "We were aware because of our close relationship to WSDOT as [once of the governor’s] cabinet agencies,” said Gregoire spokeswoman Diana Lahmann. “But as far as timing goes, we were not involved.”

“I know it looks like bad timing but it was bad timing to get a request on September 23,” says Paananen.

 

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1
Where is it discussed or shown that the tunnel would meet any less terrifying fate in the very same earthquake?

Earthquake SCARY... Tunnel GOOD.
Am I missing something or is this two entirely different discussions?
Posted by Ackham on October 26, 2009 at 5:12 PM
br@d 2
Why no link to the video?
Posted by br@d on October 26, 2009 at 5:13 PM
3
Egregious abuse of power by the governor and WSDOT. Total and utter bullshit.

Mallahan's going to lose anyway, and crap like this will only make McGinn's victory over the array of powers that be aligned against him even sweeter.

Fuck you, Gregoire. Someone please tell me there's a federal investigation in here somewhere.
Posted by lkjh on October 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM
4
The evidence continues to mount about the "fix" being in on the tunnel project. This is getting out of hand.
Posted by CMB on October 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM
gloomy gus 5
"behooves"?
Posted by gloomy gus on October 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM
6
Of all the possible options, I think the deep bore tunnel actually leaves the viaduct in place the longest during construction. That means the deep bore option is actually the most likely to see a disaster strike.
Posted by RVPMB on October 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM
7
The "Fix" has been in on the AWV since WSDOT first decided to replace it with a toll tunnel in the early/mid 1990's.

This is just the most recent example.
Posted by Mr. X on October 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM
8
It is incorrect to say that the stakeholders group recommended the tunnel option. The only bored tunnel that group actually considered was rejected because it was too expensive. Some members supported the final choice made by Governor Gregoire, but the group did not as a whole ever recommend a deep bore tunnel.
Posted by eday on October 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM
9
Dom, you know damn well that the stakeholders advisory group never recommended the tunnel. Has Tayloe gotten to you too?
Posted by CMB on October 26, 2009 at 5:22 PM
10
Well, at least there's no tsunami.
Posted by Silver lining on October 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Dominic Holden 11
@ 8,9) WSDOT told me that "the stakeholder group pushed back on us. There was sense that a single bore would work." I've clarified in the post. After WSDOT came back with costs for a single-bore tunnel (rather than double-bore) some members of the group supported it, but that was after the process was complete and the full group never gave the tunnel its blessing.
Posted by Dominic Holden on October 26, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Baconcat 12
Mallahan will take Gregoire down with him.

Excellent.

Senator Lisa Brown for Governor, 2012!
Posted by Baconcat on October 26, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Will in Seattle 13
LOL.

Like you think they aren't trying to make you vote their way for their insider-chosen elite comrades ....

Too bad it's starting to backfire.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 26, 2009 at 5:45 PM
14
Um, wouldn't the tunnel be affected by liquefaction as well? Instead of trapping and killing people in a double-decker freeway like the 880 in the '89 Loma Prieta quake, they'll be trapped hundreds of feet below the surface. And this would be better how?
Posted by Rose on October 26, 2009 at 5:52 PM
stinkbug 15
Why does the scenario in the video start at 8:30pm? Why not 6am or 6pm? How did they select "8:30pm in summer"? For the lighting?
Posted by stinkbug on October 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM
16
WSDOT is a bastion of right-wing anti-transit activists within state government. They have a long and proven record of supporting every road project imaginable and strongly opposing transit and more urban-friendly projects like surface/transit. As ECB showed over at Publicola a week or two ago, they had the Washington Policy Center, a right-wing think tank, advising them on the project.

There's no way this was anything but a well-timed release to boost Mallahan and the tunnel. WSDOT plays dirty like that. They're not the neutral engineers who just quietly do what the state tells them - they're an actively pro-road, anti-transit group of people with deep ties to the industry.
Posted by Robert Cruickshank on October 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM
17
Wait a minute, I thought the Stranger said that this video, (like every oher fact reported by the Stranger) proves that we should vote for McGinn. How can the Stranger simultaneously claim that the video represents a WSDOT conspiracy to discredit McGinn and that the video shows that McGinn was right all along?
Posted by David Wright on October 26, 2009 at 6:05 PM
18
The government releases information to the public (at the request of a citizen, no less...) and the "press" bitches?

No! No!- we don't want to know-
not NOW, at least...

what a bunch of hypocritical biased hack assholes.
Posted by t5r4e on October 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM
19
no building is damaged, nobody gets out of their car, there is more traffic in this video then any of their tunnel simulations and all brought to you by WSDOT and their consultant ParsonsRipusoff.
Posted by check history on October 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM
20
normally a PDR is given to the requester not the press
Posted by check history on October 26, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Joe M 21
@1 - a bored tunnel built to today's seismic standards is not directly comparable to a double-deck viaduct barely built to 1950s standards. @14 - the tunnel will be bored under downtown, presumably out of the liquefaction area along the seawall. It's worth noting that in the Loma Prieta quake, two viaduct structures and one section of the bay bridge failed, while no tunnels collapsed.
Posted by Joe M on October 26, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Free Lunch 22
On the bright side, we'd get plenty disaster relief to pay for the replacement. It worked for Minnesota.
Posted by Free Lunch on October 26, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Baconcat 23
@21: The South Portal of the tunnel is about 1,900-2,000 feet into the liquefaction zone under 90-120 year old fill with another 500-600 feet continuing under 120-150 year old fill.

Here are some reference maps:
http://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/pacnw/lifelin…
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/pacn…
Posted by Baconcat on October 26, 2009 at 6:50 PM
24
Hopefully it'll happen when Critical Mass has taken over the lower deck....
Posted by Donald Bradmans on October 26, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Quincy 25
@17 - So if the Stranger was for Mallahan, you'd be for McGinn, right? Because the most important thing about this election is how it will reflect upon the Stranger, right?
Posted by Quincy on October 26, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Quincy 26
The video was released for Halloween, yes? Needs more blood!
Posted by Quincy on October 26, 2009 at 7:19 PM
27
Can we at least make "Run to the hills" the sound track for this.
Posted by Zander on October 26, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Joe M 28
@23 - I'll grant you that-- there's no way the WHOLE tunnel can avoid the liquefaction zone. Still it's a lot less dangerous than what we have. And for that matter, a tree can fall on you while you're driving or biking. There are no guarantees in life.
Posted by Joe M on October 26, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Timrrr 29
Hey, Dom, nice way to "forget" to mention that Carey Moon, in addition to being "a member of the viaduct stakeholder's group" is also a head of the People's Waterfront Coalition, a self-described "fast-growing association of organizations and individual citizens who want to prevent the construction of a new highway on the shore of Elliott Bay in Downtown Seattle."

Using the Fair-and-Balanced™ reporting model up 11th Ave E now, huh?

Wow. Just... wow.
Posted by Timrrr on October 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM
DavidG 30
@29 - so? It's valid for Chris Gregoire or Joe Mallahan (or, hell, the whole WSDOT) to have an opinion on viaduct replacement, but not for Cary Moon? what's your point, exactly?
Posted by DavidG http://portableshrines.com on October 26, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Baconcat 31
@28: It's more important to make sure the portal isn't in one or in the drainage zone of one.

Unfortunately, both portals fail the above criteria. It'll be really expensive to engineer that problem out, which is probably why they're so gungho about it.
Posted by Baconcat on October 26, 2009 at 7:50 PM
elenchos 32
Do they think that by not showing hordes of flesh-crazed zombies rising up from that apocalyptic hellscape, they're fooling us into thinking there will be no zombies? Look at that scene. If that's not zombie country, then there's no such thing, am I right? If you don't see zombies in that picture it's not because they aren't there. It's because they're right behind you!
Posted by elenchos on October 26, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 33

The later released this simulation of what would happen to the Chase (nee Wamu) Tower:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfC0RyRPW…

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://yrihf.com on October 26, 2009 at 8:33 PM
MrBaker 34
Oh my gosh, should we go ahead and close the 105-year-old Great Northern train tunnel that has outlasted every earthquake since it opened in 1904, and is still in use today?

http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?Dis…

There is a similar tunnel under the city of Everett, it has been there nearly as long.

Both came before, and will outlast our viaduct by a few decades.
Posted by MrBaker http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ on October 26, 2009 at 8:53 PM
MrBaker 35
Ya, 29, you just should have said McGinn endorser, and left it at that.

http://mcginnformayor.com/endorsements/
Posted by MrBaker http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ on October 26, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Baconcat 36
@34: Neither were built in filled-in tidal flats, neither have the diameter of the proposed DBT, neither were built with city money, neither were built without advance engineering, neither were built with an as-yet undesigned piece of tunneling equipment, neither had to incorporate escape features, neither are as long, neither are as deep, neither are as technologically advanced, and both receive extensive renovation work every few years.

It took 10 years of engineering work before they began the Great Northern tunnel, and that was using relatively simple tunneling techniques that have been around since the 1500s.

Furthermore, the Everett "tunnel" is actually a cut.

Do your homework next time.
Posted by Baconcat on October 26, 2009 at 9:05 PM
37
#18, exactly.
Posted by This is not journalism by a longstretch on October 26, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Simone 38
@26

Needs more zombies too.
Posted by Simone on October 26, 2009 at 9:13 PM
39
@23 and 21,

Thanks for beating me to the tunnel liquefaction herring.

@23

Those maps you linked to, looked like they were more maps of faulting, ground acceleration, and sediment deposits. I guess you can extrapolate liquefaction potential from that, but I don't know that they are really direct representations of such.
Posted by Derek http://hurricanechasermusic.com on October 26, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Quincy 40
@29 - That description would seem to make Ms. Moon objectively pro-tunnel and therefore, pro- Mallahan, yes? Wow -- just, wow.
Posted by Quincy on October 26, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Baconcat 41
@39: http://www.seattle.gov/emergency/library…

There's a good map in there in the appendix about earthquakes. There's also, ahem, a section on snowstorms that is so terribly thin that it removes all shock.
Posted by Baconcat on October 26, 2009 at 10:15 PM
42
@32 for the win.
Posted by I Got Nuthin' on October 26, 2009 at 10:21 PM
seandr 43
Worst Slog conspiracy theory ever.
Posted by seandr on October 26, 2009 at 10:24 PM
44
You all need to get off that chemical sprayed mexican weed that makes you think the FBI is stalking you, and other various types of parinaoia ...

Really and back off the bottle a bit, esp. the really cheap stuff at happy hours

This is utter trash reporting.
Posted by Zorn on October 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Annag 45
An October surprise. How fitting.
Posted by Annag on October 26, 2009 at 11:53 PM
46
Joe M., Derek, Baconcat: Thanks for the discussion and info, worrisome as it may be.

This is sad how a topic this important is subject less to reason than to politics.
Posted by Ackham on October 27, 2009 at 12:02 AM
47
"I'll grant you that-- there's no way the WHOLE tunnel can avoid the liquefaction zone. Still it's a lot less dangerous than what we have. And for that matter, a tree can fall on you while you're driving or biking. There are no guarantees in life."

No, it's not a lot less dangerous. If you're above ground, you have a better chance to survive. If even part of the tunnel liquifies, or the exit area crumbles, or there is a multi-car collision within the tunnel after the quake, you have NO chance whatsoever. Saying "there are no guarantees in life" doesn't exactly justify a crazy and dangerous plan that will cost billions of dollars.
Posted by sarah68 on October 27, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Original-er Andy 48
of course there's no tsunami... which would occur from a subduction quake which could only occur miles off the coast and *shock* Seattle's not on the coast. It's bullshit to even put "tsunami not expected" ...well neither is a tornado or swarm of locust.

Even the NOAA Tsunami report says:

"Because the nature of the tsunami depends on the initial deformation of the earthquake,
which is poorly understood, the largest source of uncertainty is the input earthquake. The
earthquake scenario used in this modeling was selected to honor the paleoseismic
constraints, but the next Seattle fault earthquake may be substantially different from these.
Sherrod and others (2000) show that an uplift event at Restoration Point predating the A.D.
900–930 event was smaller. Trenching of subsidiary structures to the Seattle fault that are
thought to be coseimic with the main fault trace (Nelson and others, 2002) indicate that there
were at least two earthquakes in the 1500 years before the A.D. 900–930 event. These,
however, did not produce prominent uplifted wavecut platforms similar to the one made by
the A.D. 900–930 event, suggesting that significant earthquakes have occurred on the fault
that had different and smaller uplifts in central Puget Sound."
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/pubs/PDF/wals27…

In English: "We really are just speculating with this ridiculous map and the largest quake in known history did not produce tsunamis anywhere near the height as this scare tactic scenario aimlessly speculates at and quakes before that didn't even register."
Posted by Original-er Andy on October 27, 2009 at 1:15 AM
49
This is definitely one of the more legitimate conspiracy theories ever reported on Slog. The casual overlap and job switching between top DOT PEs & directors with those of huge 9-figure contract-holding firms (PB, CH2MHill, Parametrix...), not just on AWV, but also 520 and the 405 projects, should be enough to make anyone skeptical. And Paananen isn't a spokesman -- he's the AWV project director. The fact that they had someone at his level covering this is iffy too.
Posted by Judith on October 27, 2009 at 2:17 AM
50
The Mc Ginn losers are in pain.

Oh, God, hardball politics. Who, oh who would have anticipated that ...

God, you all are in never never land with the ghost of MJ, except he gets all the royalities.

The contract is the modern form of patronage ... what a surprise.

Mc Ginn is toast ... he would be good on the council in two years ... build his resume, good pay, and he looks like a good paycheck would help him pay for haircuts, get used to it.
Posted by Fred of the Wind, formerly on the Hill on October 27, 2009 at 7:23 AM
51
I file requests under PDA with Seattle Public Schools quite a lot. It's amazing how long it can take for simple information (like minutes of a public meeting). Sorry, I see manipulation here.

The state has no business giving video to a news outlet rather than the person who ORIGINALLY asked for it.

I'm sure the state Attorney General will back the Governor.
Posted by westello on October 27, 2009 at 7:58 AM
52
@24 your my hero
Posted by benxer on October 27, 2009 at 8:46 AM
53
a much more exciting version of this video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dtjGmrPK…
Posted by sprudge http://sprudge.com on October 27, 2009 at 12:16 PM
54
Most of Downtown Seattle is on much more solid land than fill. Most of the fill is along the waterfront, the Harbor and SODO. So while the tunnel may face liquefaction problems at its south entrance, it would run through much more solid ground as it passes through Downtown and Belltown. If Downtown had a serious risk of liquefaction, then the bus tunnel would be in serious trouble as well and we'd ought to consider shutting it down.

And have people already forgotten who Cary Moon is? Grant Cogswell's in on this too, n00bs. He's not just a failed, alcoholic filmmaker: He's a failed alcoholic activist too! That's why he fucked off to Portland: Nobody bought what he was selling anymore. They tend not to when you spend nearly ten years fighting to get a monorail onto the ledger that doesn't practically serve enough people, burns 2 billion dollars from the budget, costs everyone a shit ton in MVET fees and never gets built.
Posted by Hi it's reality on October 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM
55
More on Cary Moon:

http://peopleswaterfront.org
Posted by Reality again on October 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM
56
For the same reason SNMA sued Tom Carr a week before the election... What's good for the goose
Posted by duh on October 27, 2009 at 6:52 PM

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