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Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Was Today The End of the Public Option? No.

Posted by on Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:02 PM

In response to the defeat earlier today of the Schumer-Cantwell amendment in the Senate Finance Committee, Slog commenter William T. Fuckweiler wrote:

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWK!!!!!

I hear you, Mr. Fuckweiler. But, a few things to keep in mind:

The public option is not completely dead. Not yet. Sure, it's dead in Max Baucus's Finance Committee. But that was always expected. And the fact that Baucus—who set out to forge a bipartisan bill that would win the entire Senate over because of its beautiful bipartisnness—the fact that this man wound up with a large number of Democrats on his committee voting against his bill's "co-op compromise" (the Schumer-Cantwell amendment only went down 13-10) strongly suggests that the Baucus Bill is not succeeding on Baucus's own terms.

It also shows strong and widespread Democratic support for the public option in the Senate, which could be a good sign as health insurance reform moves through the rest of the legislative process. Remember, five committees—two in the Senate and one in the House—are putting forward health insurance reform bills. Four have already done so, and all of their bills include a public option. When the Baucus Bill emerges from Finance, it will be the only bill without one. As Jonathan Cohn writes:

Finance is but one committee—an important committee, to be sure, but one all the same. The bill from the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) Committee has a public plan. So do the bills that came out of three House committees over the summer. Senator Harry Reid has indicated he probably won't include a public plan when he merges the Finance and HELP proposals, but there will be a chance to add one duirng the floor vote debate and then again during conference committee deliberations, assuming the House passes one.

Which is a very safe assumption.

In conclusion: FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWK?

No. Not just yet.

 

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Will in Seattle 1
Boycott Montana anyway.

And call their Montana Tourist Bureau and tell them why.

Actions have consequences.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 29, 2009 at 5:26 PM
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Nice hope but actually the commenter had it right.

We don't got the 60 votes.

BTW you just count the votes name by name your method of taking committee results and forming a fake batting average is totally ridiculous.
Posted by who said we should sit down with insurers in the 1st place? on September 29, 2009 at 5:48 PM
meowmeowkitty 3
Pardon my salty language, but Max Baucus' butthole is gaping from all the insurance dick he's been taking. That fuckwit smile in all the photographs today makes me murderous. If I was just a little bit sicker and little bit broker, with just a little bit less to lose.
Posted by meowmeowkitty on September 29, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Joe Szilagyi 4
Just as well, I didn't feel like seeing the GOP ride into Washington today on tanks for a military coup if the vote passed committee.

Maybe next week, after I see Zombieland at the Cinerama. The Zombie Survival Rules I'll learn may be applicable to surviving the GOP swarms that will try to eat us.

RULE #57: Say you voted for Palin, even if you didn't.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://www.joeszilagyi.com on September 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Curmudgeon 5
What a sham. We already have a public health insurance program. It's called Medicare. There's no need to create another federal "public option". They could remove the age requirement on Medicare, allowing anyone to enroll, and pay for it by removing the $250,000 premium cap on taxable income.
Posted by Curmudgeon on September 29, 2009 at 10:19 PM
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you democrats got nothin
Posted by gawd you're pathetic on September 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM
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Why don't all rich liberals use their money to buy health care insurance for poor people?

Posted by V-Moda on September 30, 2009 at 3:33 AM
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hey, that's a swell idea!
boycotting Utah sure worked to get gay marriage in California, after all...
Posted by M. O. R. O. N. on September 30, 2009 at 6:17 AM
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Hey Kids! It's the new Stranger math!

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5 Committees putting forward health insurance reform bills!

Learning is fun!
Posted by j.lee on September 30, 2009 at 9:07 AM
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Wow, look at the tremendous grass roots support for the public option. An incredible testament to the leadership of our democratic officials! I guess all those rallies and marches they've been having work wonders, ditto beefing up that 11 million strong e mail list into 25 million and the key decision to end DADT which produced about half a million creaming gays who'd love Obama to death and who then went out and called all their redneck relatives in Montana and Missouri to patiently explain why Obama's simple, clear "Medicare Choice for All" plan to end age discrimination in medicare is such a good idea.

It's absolutely thrilling to see that last year's 200+ post threads on the big Obama Clinton fight are now outshined by our massive energy for the Medicare Choice for All Act with these 400 comments we have on this thread today!

Hope, Change and Unity, woo hoo!
Posted by who said sit down with insurers in the first place? on September 30, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Will in Seattle 11
I'm not dead yet.

I'm feeling ... better ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 30, 2009 at 11:00 AM

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