Tuesday, September 29, 2009
Politics None Dare Call It...
Posted by Dan Savage on Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Right-winger floats idea of military coup to solve "Obama problem" on GOP news website.
There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.... Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars.... Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.
Says John at Americablog...
This is beyond the pale. If the Democrats don't step up and shut this kind of talk down right now, I fear we are going to see violence in this country. And yes, it will be the Republicans' fault. But it will also be the fault of the Democratic party for watching the crazy talk grow, and not doing a thing to stand up to it.
And I'll say it again: they're trying to get the man killed.
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And how do you propose Dems 'shut down' talk like this? Censorship is not acceptable, especially after we've just gotten free from the horrific civil liberties violations of the Bush administration. If Obama gags this kind of talk he'll be turning it into truth - a violation of American citizens' first amendment rights. Let the crazies be crazy. The government's job isn't to keep situations like this from escalating.
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By calling it what it is, by decrying it, but connecting the fucking dots for idiots, and by condemning it.
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By more speech, not less, and not by censorship. You have to point at the crazies and say "CRAZY!" or the crazy grows.
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The man hasn't even been in office for a year yet! Barely 9 months and they talk like he's done irreparable damage to the US already. Bush had 8 years to fuck up and we're still paying for it!
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Fair enough, I just get nervous when I hear a cry for government to 'shut down' ANY kind of speech. Defend to the death your right to be an idiot, etc.
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There's gonna be violence. Remember, Oklahoma happened under Clinton's watch. The radical right can't stand not being in power.
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We keep saying it's crazy and they keep getting crazier. The American people are not crazy. They know what bullshit the right wing promulgates. I'm hoping it translates into big loses for the Republicans when they expect wins. That will shut them up.
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This really goes to show how unhinged these people are, and how likely that they're all chickenhawks who never served a day in the military. In my experience, most members of the military are conservative, but in the true sense of the word: resistant to change, no matter in what direction. They also have tremendous respect for the Commander in Chief.
My sister, while not in the military herself, has married three service members (not at the same time), has tons of friends in the military, and my experience with them bears this out. They all have tremendous respect for Obama, no matter how they voted last year.
There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem."
This really goes to show how unhinged these people are, and how likely that they're all chickenhawks who never served a day in the military. In my experience, most members of the military are conservative, but in the true sense of the word: resistant to change, no matter in what direction. They also have tremendous respect for the Commander in Chief.
My sister, while not in the military herself, has married three service members (not at the same time), has tons of friends in the military, and my experience with them bears this out. They all have tremendous respect for Obama, no matter how they voted last year.
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Ditto@8. It's hard to have a military coup when the military itself doesn't oppose their elected leader.
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And they have internet skills. Hello, that stupid Facebook poll over the weekend. It was pulled down, and the pollster is getting checked out. Another example of how people are nutty.
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Well, there were movies and plays about the assination of George W. Bush, and I don't remember Slog staffers condeming it. Double standard?
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I would worry a whole lot more about the implication of an increasingly-Christianized armed forces staging a coup d'etat and overthrowing our current government. I seriously doubt Joe Biden would be permitted to assume his line-of-succession.
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We don't need to shut down this speech, we just need the government to chuckle and talk like Grandpa. Pat the psychos on the head, tell them that they are crazy, and give them a small cookie. In public. Embarassment is a powerful tool.
If that doesn't work, send in the howitzers. Give em high angle hell.
If that doesn't work, send in the howitzers. Give em high angle hell.
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Isaac Davis: Has anybody read that Nazis are gonna march in New Jersey? Ya know? I read it in the newspaper. We should go down there, get some guys together, ya know, get some bricks and baseball bats, and really explain things to 'em.
Party Guest: There was this devastating satirical piece on that on the op-ed page of the Times, just devastating.
Isaac Davis: Whoa, whoa. A satirical piece in the Times is one thing, but bricks and baseball bats really gets right to the point of it.
Party Guest Helen: Oh, but really biting satire is always better than physical force.
Isaac Davis: No, physical force is always better with Nazis.
Party Guest: There was this devastating satirical piece on that on the op-ed page of the Times, just devastating.
Isaac Davis: Whoa, whoa. A satirical piece in the Times is one thing, but bricks and baseball bats really gets right to the point of it.
Party Guest Helen: Oh, but really biting satire is always better than physical force.
Isaac Davis: No, physical force is always better with Nazis.
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If "Real AmuriKKKans" actually succeed in seceding do you think they'll deport us to Canada or France, because I'm good either way.
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Man, I wish I knew voting in a black guy would cause this much trouble. I wonder if it would have been as bad with Hillary.
It's not very genteel to call a lady Hitler, after all. These old southerners have SOME couth.
It's not very genteel to call a lady Hitler, after all. These old southerners have SOME couth.
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can I just point out as best as I can tell "skilled, military trained, nation builders" haven't really been doing that great of job recently.
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In the circles I move in (gun and knife collectors), this kind of talk isn't "crazy" - it's "normal." Although there are lots and lots of cops and military people too, and really, I just can't see them buying into this.
They surely do hate "The Obama," though.
They surely do hate "The Obama," though.
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Christian Science Monitor: Facebook poll on killing Obama sign of antigovernment anger
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2…
It should be pointed out that when many, many people actively promote the assassination of a person, as was the case with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr, and then one person does it, that is not considered a conspiracy. Just a lone gunman.
We don't have conspiracies in the US. Just those, crazy, crazy conspiracy theorists.
And an abundance of lone gunmen.
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2…
It should be pointed out that when many, many people actively promote the assassination of a person, as was the case with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr, and then one person does it, that is not considered a conspiracy. Just a lone gunman.
We don't have conspiracies in the US. Just those, crazy, crazy conspiracy theorists.
And an abundance of lone gunmen.
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Whiners on the left: We're taking our things and moving to Canada!
Psychos on the right: We're taking our guns and overthrowing the government!
Me: Has "Der Kommissar" stuck in my head. Fuck. Oh wait, no, now I've got Stealers Wheel stuck in my head. I can't get a break.
Psychos on the right: We're taking our guns and overthrowing the government!
Me: Has "Der Kommissar" stuck in my head. Fuck. Oh wait, no, now I've got Stealers Wheel stuck in my head. I can't get a break.
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"Well, there were movies and plays about the assination of George W. Bush, and I don't remember Slog staffers condeming it. "
By all accounts - by which I mean all informed accounts, by which I mean accounts of people who watched the fucking movie - "Death of a President" was a very dry, clinical, even boring movie about what would happen in the aftermath of the assassination of George W. Bush. It was hardly a jerk-off fantasy, whereas your guy here is seriously talking about a fucking coup. I'm sick of hearing the comparison. Are you really that blisteringly stupid or just one of those Internet "trolls" I've read about?
By all accounts - by which I mean all informed accounts, by which I mean accounts of people who watched the fucking movie - "Death of a President" was a very dry, clinical, even boring movie about what would happen in the aftermath of the assassination of George W. Bush. It was hardly a jerk-off fantasy, whereas your guy here is seriously talking about a fucking coup. I'm sick of hearing the comparison. Are you really that blisteringly stupid or just one of those Internet "trolls" I've read about?
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Frankly, these people scare me.
And with the Secret Service pared down since it's move to the Department of Homeland Insecurity....
And with the Secret Service pared down since it's move to the Department of Homeland Insecurity....
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"Well, there were movies and plays about the assination of George W. Bush, and I don't remember Slog staffers condeming it. Double standard?"
Bush didn't have the earliest Secret Service protection ever given to a presidential candidate. He didn't have people charged with threatening his life before he was even elected. He didn't have people putting dumbass polls on fucking Facebook asking if he should be killed. Not to mention, he didn't have the crazy, violent history of racism in this country against him. Nobody took that movie seriously (if I remember the reviews correctly, it showed just what a Cheney presidency would get you). So, no, there's no double standard.
Bush didn't have the earliest Secret Service protection ever given to a presidential candidate. He didn't have people charged with threatening his life before he was even elected. He didn't have people putting dumbass polls on fucking Facebook asking if he should be killed. Not to mention, he didn't have the crazy, violent history of racism in this country against him. Nobody took that movie seriously (if I remember the reviews correctly, it showed just what a Cheney presidency would get you). So, no, there's no double standard.
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This is pointless energy wasted in fear over a columnist's words. He's trolling for page hits. Relax.
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Wow, morons from the fringe are jerking each other off talking about a military coup.
Who gives a fuck? This is in no way mainstream political thought. Stop being so fucking dramatic. And stop giving these nuts an audience. All the commenter up in arms. Grow up.
You're shocked by talk like this?
http://www.aim.org/publications/aim_repo…
Who gives a fuck? This is in no way mainstream political thought. Stop being so fucking dramatic. And stop giving these nuts an audience. All the commenter up in arms. Grow up.
You're shocked by talk like this?
http://www.aim.org/publications/aim_repo…
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"Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders"
Like the ones Dubya sent to Iraq and Afghanistan? The ones who handed out bales of cash without even writing down who took it out of their hands? The ones who stood around and watched while the only comprehensive cultural history museum in Iraq was systematically looted, and then basically said 'oops'? Those skilled, military-trained nation-builders? Shit-howdy, the crazy gets thicker every day.
Like the ones Dubya sent to Iraq and Afghanistan? The ones who handed out bales of cash without even writing down who took it out of their hands? The ones who stood around and watched while the only comprehensive cultural history museum in Iraq was systematically looted, and then basically said 'oops'? Those skilled, military-trained nation-builders? Shit-howdy, the crazy gets thicker every day.
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@29 & @30
You're both right on. Here we see, once again, Americans busy at work using their favorite weapon to get attention: fear. It's a great tool for racking up page hits. And it's the reason why these fringe nutsos are so overblown by the media in general. Fearful talk about these freaks makes for a flashy story and gets ratings.
You're both right on. Here we see, once again, Americans busy at work using their favorite weapon to get attention: fear. It's a great tool for racking up page hits. And it's the reason why these fringe nutsos are so overblown by the media in general. Fearful talk about these freaks makes for a flashy story and gets ratings.
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I called this bullshit months ago.
I love our military; I have friends AND family in the military, officer and enlisted.
Any of them that try to burn down our nation for the first time since 1865? Hang them all.
I love our military; I have friends AND family in the military, officer and enlisted.
Any of them that try to burn down our nation for the first time since 1865? Hang them all.
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@30
Yeah, because orchestrated attacks on democracy in the United States have never happened.
Business Plot & Smedley Butler
JFK
RFK
Vietnam
Nixon
Iran-Contra
Florida elections, 2000
Iraq War 2 (where's that yellow cake, again?)
NSA illegally wiretapping Americans
These monsters have been at war with regular Americans for decades.
Yeah, because orchestrated attacks on democracy in the United States have never happened.
Business Plot & Smedley Butler
JFK
RFK
Vietnam
Nixon
Iran-Contra
Florida elections, 2000
Iraq War 2 (where's that yellow cake, again?)
NSA illegally wiretapping Americans
These monsters have been at war with regular Americans for decades.
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A "bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution"? We already have a word for that - impeachment.
Oh but wait, that requires a democratic process, which would probably fail since President Obama has done nothing illegal and his party has a majority in Congress.
CRY SOME MORE!
Oh but wait, that requires a democratic process, which would probably fail since President Obama has done nothing illegal and his party has a majority in Congress.
CRY SOME MORE!
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@ 27,
I'm cool with that. Mexico has a 3 tier universal health care system, I speak Spanish better than I do French, and I happen to love chimichangas.
I'm cool with that. Mexico has a 3 tier universal health care system, I speak Spanish better than I do French, and I happen to love chimichangas.
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Honestly at this point, considering what Barack Hussein Obama has done so far, if there were a military coup in the US I would NOT raise my voice in protest. IMO no other president in 200 years has come as close to a coup as Barry Soetoro (and one reason this would be justifiable is because this man is a usurper).
I too believe Barack Obama is shredding the US Constitution, and I have sworn to defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Barack Hussein Obama is a domestic enemy of the constitution, IMO. While I would not become in any way involved in a coup (at this point), I would not raise my voice against one.
I am tired of seeing the US Constitution trampled by Barack Obama, as well as those presidents before him both Democrat and Republican.
DEATH TO SOCIALISM !!!
I too believe Barack Obama is shredding the US Constitution, and I have sworn to defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Barack Hussein Obama is a domestic enemy of the constitution, IMO. While I would not become in any way involved in a coup (at this point), I would not raise my voice against one.
I am tired of seeing the US Constitution trampled by Barack Obama, as well as those presidents before him both Democrat and Republican.
DEATH TO SOCIALISM !!!
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Lord Basil, why would a foreign titled aristocrat such as yourself swear to defend the US constitution? Are you committing treason against your native land?
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So what's the advise for folks that HATE Obama based on his polices but are NOT racists. If they're not perceived as racists, they're perceived as Nazis. Should they just sit quietly in the corner and shut up?
The left is in power now, but they're so paranoid because they know that they have a very small window to get their agenda in place before it starts start slipping away in 2010.
The left is in power now, but they're so paranoid because they know that they have a very small window to get their agenda in place before it starts start slipping away in 2010.
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Keep it up, Basil - you really crack me up. It must be a lot of work to come up with such looney-tunes gibberish on a regular basis.
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Settle down, Dan. Nothing new here, this is the same survivalist fantasy bullshit that was so popular when Clinton was in office.
But a bunch of low IQ hicks playing army man does not a coup make. Best they can hope for is to something along the lines of Timothy McVeigh.
But a bunch of low IQ hicks playing army man does not a coup make. Best they can hope for is to something along the lines of Timothy McVeigh.
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Wait a minute, Fifty-Two-Eighty @ 44. Our friend, Lord Basil, is a slog treasure. Here we have living proof that one can form coherent sentences while under the influence of 8 year old Wild Turkey. His fellow patriot would be advised to follow his fine (and hilarious) example, and give up his mumbling ways. Give credit when credit is due.
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someone (bill maher or dan savage) just needs to go on the TV and call a Spade a Spade. Carter did it, but everyone just ignored him because he is old. These "republicans" are flat out racist, insane, crazy, senile assholes who need to be shut down.
as long as we tolerate them, because they are the crazy uncle that no one takes seriously, the longer they will scream and shout and the longer they will get publicity.
as long as we tolerate them, because they are the crazy uncle that no one takes seriously, the longer they will scream and shout and the longer they will get publicity.
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btw, i'm coming to Seattle in the spring, and I expect to be given the full tourist treatment by all you bitches!
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Aside from being black, what evil has Obama done? The guy's a cautious slightly-left-of-center guy. Socialized medicine? If what Obama has ever said he wanted is socialized medicine, then we've already had it for decades, in the form of Medicare, etc. Shredding the Constitution? When the last guy had his "unitary executive" bullshit (which was truly unconstitutional), extraordinary rendition, torture, signing statement out the ass... ?
So, apart from the crime of being black...
So, apart from the crime of being black...
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@40 your name is an affront to the constitution
Art. 1 Sec. 9
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.
Art. 1 Sec. 9
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.
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Raindrop, I like how you bring up one irrelevant comment (@ 13), have it answered by two different people (@ 24 & 28), then proceed to bring up another irrelevant comment (@ 43), ignoring the good points that answered your first irrelevant comment.
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@43:
Argue against the policies. And no, "it's socialism" isn't a good enough argument to convince anyone you aren't against the policies simply because they came from Obama.
It's a shocker, I know: if you engage in meaningful discourse, people might pay attention to your thoughts and opinions.
The right thinks politics is a yelling match where you don't have to bring any reason or facts to the table. It cost them a lot in 2006 and 2008. Keep yelling, guys.
Argue against the policies. And no, "it's socialism" isn't a good enough argument to convince anyone you aren't against the policies simply because they came from Obama.
It's a shocker, I know: if you engage in meaningful discourse, people might pay attention to your thoughts and opinions.
The right thinks politics is a yelling match where you don't have to bring any reason or facts to the table. It cost them a lot in 2006 and 2008. Keep yelling, guys.
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Dan, unless these guys really want to overhaul democracy altogether (i.e. create a nationalist state, via a constitutional convention that reflects their narrow line of values), killing Obama would be for them a really bad idea, and I would expect (optimistically so, granted) that the big dogs (or at least the smart dogs) amongst the Teabag Birther lot would remember this from history.
JFK is (metaphorically) a constellation in the American sky, thanks to his assassin(s). Killing Obama would only put him up there as well. Killing Obama would make him a god.
I think this turmoil is what we expected for the first time we have a black man for president. We're also going to be scared out of our wits during our first Mormon or Muslim presidency* and we're going to be extremely misogynistic when Hillary finally makes it to the top. The folks of the US need to get used to this idea, that the president can be something other than a white Anglo-Saxon mainline protestant male over 55 and still be able to effectively govern.
* we'll be even more scared of moral corruption during the admins of our first openly neopagan or atheist presidents.
I do agree that Obama in desperation to be fair is overreaching for bipartisanship from a party that is quite used to getting its own way through monopolistic (i.e. DeLayan) tactics. The times really call for the same degree of partisan push from the liberals just to return our nation to its moderate center, let alone actually swing to the liberal side of the field. He's not being enough of an Obama problem to the right.
I also think people should be allowed to talk about killing the president or engaging in whatever radical activism they want. We didn't get to do so during the Bush administration for fear of reprisal, either being marked as a terrorist or even so far as getting extraordinarily rendered. As much as I resent the bastards who are talking about revolution now, the fact that they get to do so now, whereas they couldn't let us, is, to me, an indicator that we are better Americans than they are.
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JFK is (metaphorically) a constellation in the American sky, thanks to his assassin(s). Killing Obama would only put him up there as well. Killing Obama would make him a god.
I think this turmoil is what we expected for the first time we have a black man for president. We're also going to be scared out of our wits during our first Mormon or Muslim presidency* and we're going to be extremely misogynistic when Hillary finally makes it to the top. The folks of the US need to get used to this idea, that the president can be something other than a white Anglo-Saxon mainline protestant male over 55 and still be able to effectively govern.
* we'll be even more scared of moral corruption during the admins of our first openly neopagan or atheist presidents.
I do agree that Obama in desperation to be fair is overreaching for bipartisanship from a party that is quite used to getting its own way through monopolistic (i.e. DeLayan) tactics. The times really call for the same degree of partisan push from the liberals just to return our nation to its moderate center, let alone actually swing to the liberal side of the field. He's not being enough of an Obama problem to the right.
I also think people should be allowed to talk about killing the president or engaging in whatever radical activism they want. We didn't get to do so during the Bush administration for fear of reprisal, either being marked as a terrorist or even so far as getting extraordinarily rendered. As much as I resent the bastards who are talking about revolution now, the fact that they get to do so now, whereas they couldn't let us, is, to me, an indicator that we are better Americans than they are.
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Joe Szilagyi @34, a personal pet peeve of mine, I always thought after the whole Plame Affair that yellowcake needs to replace Watergate as the naming convention for political scandals in the US.
When the Palin affair (whatever got her to resign) surfaces, rather than being called Palingate it would be Palincake. A security debacle in the White House would be Securitycake and so on.
There are far better jokes that can be made about cakes than gates. It would better our nation.
When the Palin affair (whatever got her to resign) surfaces, rather than being called Palingate it would be Palincake. A security debacle in the White House would be Securitycake and so on.
There are far better jokes that can be made about cakes than gates. It would better our nation.
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#48.
Dan did this during his last appearance on Keith Olbermann's show. He literally said they were trying to get Obama killed.
#55, if raindrop is like me, he didn't see those posts because they're by people who aren't registered.
someone (bill maher or dan savage) just needs to go on the TV and call a Spade a Spade.
Dan did this during his last appearance on Keith Olbermann's show. He literally said they were trying to get Obama killed.
#55, if raindrop is like me, he didn't see those posts because they're by people who aren't registered.
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JFK is a now recognized as a turd in the American Outhouse, didn't you get the memo?
The bloom is so off of that phony rose.
JFK is a now recognized as a turd in the American Outhouse, didn't you get the memo?
The bloom is so off of that phony rose.
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If JFK is the turd in the outhouse, what is Reagan? Bloody diarrhea with chunks of corn and bone in it?
And Bush? Rumplemintz scented vomit with undigested Doritos?
Better to be a good solid turd than either of those things.
And Bush? Rumplemintz scented vomit with undigested Doritos?
Better to be a good solid turd than either of those things.
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Dan, you hysterical little pussy, believe us when we decide to get the man killed you'll know it.
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Dan Savage is either trying to get the president killed or continuing his career of being so irresponsible with other people's lives that he might as well be.
Dan pushed the meme to Nancy Pelosi, now he's nudging it along here. There will be a major assassination attempt against a liberal figure soon. Dan will be less at fault than Nancy, but still directly at fault. Maybe you can even make it a "cute" slog profile question in the future: "Dan Savage got Barack Obama killed by. . ."
I'm pretty positive you won't act like responsible journalists about it.
Because you idiots have no clue how journalists act.
Dan pushed the meme to Nancy Pelosi, now he's nudging it along here. There will be a major assassination attempt against a liberal figure soon. Dan will be less at fault than Nancy, but still directly at fault. Maybe you can even make it a "cute" slog profile question in the future: "Dan Savage got Barack Obama killed by. . ."
I'm pretty positive you won't act like responsible journalists about it.
Because you idiots have no clue how journalists act.
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@60: I saw the posts and they're weak as usual.
So to be fair, if someone produced a tiresome and boring movie about the assination of Obama (see @24) they shouldn't get any flak over it.
So to be fair, if someone produced a tiresome and boring movie about the assination of Obama (see @24) they shouldn't get any flak over it.
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Allegedly @57, someone obviously forgot to take their meds this morning. Assuming @64 is from the same source, your ignorance is showing.
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What really cracks me up is that these people seem to actually believe the stuff they say about Obama being a Marxist revolutionary. I doubt these yahoos would know a Marxist if one came up and handed them a copy of Capital. For a commie, Obama sure has put a lot of effort into shoveling money at banks rather than, I don't know, nationalizing them?
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@43: That's easy. Refrain from attacks on the man and attack the policy.
The problem is, so many of those who "oppose his policy" have shown that they have no idea what his policies are (i.e., teabaggers). And if you say you hate his policies, but don't know what his policies are, you really hate the man and THEN you have to wonder what it is about this man that you hate.
The problem is, so many of those who "oppose his policy" have shown that they have no idea what his policies are (i.e., teabaggers). And if you say you hate his policies, but don't know what his policies are, you really hate the man and THEN you have to wonder what it is about this man that you hate.
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@71
I hate his smug, condescending arrogance. His whole finger wagging, butter wont melt in my mouth personality.
I hate his smug, condescending arrogance. His whole finger wagging, butter wont melt in my mouth personality.
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@72- He's smarter than you. He knows it, you know it, why should he not hold you in contempt?
Personally he seems like a pretty regular guy to me, but then I hang out with smart people.
Personally he seems like a pretty regular guy to me, but then I hang out with smart people.
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@72: So you were happier with the Special Ed Cowboy we had for the previous 8 years? Perhaps Dwight is on to something -- it was easy to feel mentally superior to Bush. With Obama there's a chance you won't outshine.
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@72:
ar·ro·gant
1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner
Safe to say that it's extremely difficult for the President of the United States of America (aka "the most powerful man in the world") to be all that arrogant.
It's like criticizing the pope for being holier-than-thou.
ar·ro·gant
1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner
Safe to say that it's extremely difficult for the President of the United States of America (aka "the most powerful man in the world") to be all that arrogant.
It's like criticizing the pope for being holier-than-thou.
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Also @72: why does hating his personality also cause you to hate his policies? It simply doesn't follow.
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Allegedly @68, I suppose I might as well have been, what with your demonstrated ability to process input. Thank you, incidentally, for gifting me a nickname by which to forever call you, that is until the day you should present a better one.
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SECTION 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements,... or incite insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct ... the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or ... shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States ... or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully ... urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production ... or advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....
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yes, we must end socialism in this country! stop farm & electric company subsidies now, toll the freeways, cut off social security, etc.
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SHUT DOWN THE SOCIALIST FIRE DEPARTMENTS NOW, GOOD, REAL AMERICANS ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR A CAPITALIST FIRE SERVICE.
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Al Franken? I haven't heard squat from him. Is he in his office reading all the paperwork?
He created an ammendment to the healthcare bill that made 90% Baucus' and the Republicans' huge free handout of hard working American tax dollars to the parasitic insurance companies actually went to medical care rather than be just a blank check.
He created an ammendment to the healthcare bill that made 90% Baucus' and the Republicans' huge free handout of hard working American tax dollars to the parasitic insurance companies actually went to medical care rather than be just a blank check.
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