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Monday, September 28, 2009

The Smoking Tuna

Posted by on Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:55 PM

The race for city attorney has stirred a dispute over the existence of a stolen can of tuna, of all things. The subject came up again last week at a debate in West Seattle, where challenger Pete Holmes charged that incumbent Tom Carr was pushing harsh penalties for the tuna theft.

Carr insisted the tuna case was a "myth."

Holmes fired the first shot, arguing, "You cannot say you are trying to reduce the need for a jail when you instruct your prosecutors to seek a nine-month jail sentence for a homeless man who stole a can of tuna. And these are all records, these are all facts, these all happened under the last eight years of Mr. Carr."

"I, frankly folks, am absolutely flabbergasted," Carr replied. "I mean, I’ve been in politics for a long time, and I have never heard so many misstatements, half-truths and lies than I just heard from my opponent."

"The tuna fish case. That is an urban myth," Carr continued. "I have tried to track down that case for years. ... People state that—I don't know where it comes from. I've never seen a docket number, and, you know, the fact is, in a progressive criminal justice system, you could theoretically be asking for jail time for something like that if the person had a long record and there was a reason for it. But we hear this all the time, and I don't know where it is."

In fact, Carr had tracked down the case. In an April 2004 memo to City Council Member Nick Licata, Carr responded to questions about reducing the jail population. On page five, Carr writes, "In 2003, the City Attorney recommended a nine-month sentence for a defendant who 'opted out' of Mental Health Court whose crime was the theft of a $1.50 can of tuna fish, based on criminal history; if imposed, with good time off, the cost of incarceration would have neared $16,000."

Carr explains that the defendant failed to participate in mental health court, and, as a result, his "sentencing recommendations reverted to that which would have been given to anyone charged with the theft who also has a substantial criminal history."

Indeed, the defendant did have a criminal history, but it still underscored Holmes's criticism: Carr was pushing an extreme sentence—one that keeps jails full—on someone who committed a very, very low-level crime. The defendant was crazy enough to qualify for mental health court and hungry enough to pilfer tuna. Carr said in the debate last week, talking about the tuna case and pot possession cases, that he "want[s] the jail beds for people who are dangerous, which is why I’m working to figure a way to get this problem solved, and why I’d like to keep doing that."

Carr now appears to have remembered the case. On his campaign blog, he defends himself, explaining that the man had 50 convictions. Writes Carr, "[T]he cost borne by taxpayers for repeat offenders is enormous. At times, it is more effective to put people in jail. This was one of those times."

But does the tuna thief qualify as one of those "people who are dangerous" who requires a jail bed, as Carr put it? The defendant couldn't have been too dangerous. Seattle Municipal Court judge Theresa Doyle disagreed with Carr, imposing almost no sanction, letting the man free with only time served: a month in jail.

 

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Baconcat 1
I thought there was something fishy about Carr's statements.
Posted by Baconcat on September 28, 2009 at 2:22 PM
2
Good job, Dominic.

Someone has to get the truth out. Lies told with spittle and red-faced conviction are turning into truth in this town.
Posted by bikechick on September 28, 2009 at 2:48 PM
T 3
A lawyer that lies? No way!
Posted by T on September 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM
4
Carr appears to explain that the man had at least 74 convictions, not 50, including 6 felonies ... and an additional 40+ arrests not resulting in conviction.

Given this rate of activity (though the time span is not reported), it seems a 9-month hiatus at $16,000 is a bargain for society at large.

Dominic distorts the story first by directing the reader's attention to the $1.50 can of tuna, and second by misstating the subject's criminal record.
Posted by RonK, Seattle on September 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Will in Seattle 5
We of the Tuna Liberation Army demand that all our brothers and sisters and semi-half-cousins be freed from their cans!

Death to the tuna-eating malfeasants! May they swim with the orcas!

Seriously, first they waste our tax dollars on MJ arrests when we told them to stop wasting our tax dollars and now they want to jail people for tuna?

Now, bottles of wine, that might make sense. I think a white goes well with that, but one might try a rose' instead.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 28, 2009 at 3:34 PM
6
The "criminal" is nuts.

And sane and sober - 0r - nuts and drunk - petty theft - really petty theft is only that.

Carry Carr to the Cart and back to non elected life.

He is such a huff and puff fool ... vote for Homes, rid us of this spot.

Dom, keep it up. On this one - dig the dirt. I bet there is a lot more.

Sweetheart contracts? Go for it Dom.
Posted by Clyde on September 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM
7
Tuna is 69 cents - NOT - $1.50.

Carr, get on the tuna clue bus. Maybe someone needed to direct the guy to a shelter with a free hot meal ..... some kindness?
Posted by Tune Gate Reporting Here on September 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Reality Check 8
Great post Dom.

Spot on.
Posted by Reality Check http://www.nraila.org on September 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM
9
@ 6 -- You don't get a felony conviction - or 6 felony convictions - for petty theft.
Posted by RonK, Seattle on September 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Gus 10
And the alternative to jailing the tuna thief is that petty crimes from incorrigible repeat offenders go unprosecuted and unpunished?
Posted by Gus on September 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM
11
#10 - community service - overnight in jail, fines - get smart.

You swiped from your mom's purse and never even went to jail.....silly me.
Posted by Coffee Guy on September 28, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Will in Seattle 12
Considering the person obviously got arrested and held in jail at least overnight, I'm kind of thinking that's a pretty stiff penalty for stealing a can of tuna, Gus.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM
13
Excuse me, why is this highlighted?

The defendant was crazy enough to qualify for mental health court


Yeah, he was crazy enough for mental health court, and he refused it. How's that for unnecessary bolding?
Posted by keshmeshi on September 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM
14
Way to distort again, Dom. His crime wasn't a single can of tuna; it was more than 100 other offenses and refusing any help to get him off the streets. You know that, and yet you bury it to try to make Carr look bad. In this case his actions were perfectly reasonable.
Posted by bigyaz on September 28, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Will in Seattle 15
Then why did the judge disagree?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Y.F. Redux 16
He forgot about some loon he got off the streets for a couple of months. Probably one of hundreds he prosecuted. Why do we care again?

p.s. The father of one of my friends was a city attorney. Every winter this crazy homeless guy would throw a rock through a store-front window and wait for the cops to arrest him. Why? So he could plea-bargain his way into 9 months free room and board every winter at the county jail. As soon as it was sunny and dry he'd be free to roam the streets again.

@ Coffee Guy,

I never swiped money from my mother's purse...or from anyone else. Ever. My mother would have beaten me senseless if I had.
Posted by Y.F. Redux on September 28, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Simac 17
You have never seen a group of people so angry, as have I, who are stuck in a jury deliberation room who have to decide a ridiculous case along these lines that should never have been prosecuted in the first place.

Jury service is a duty, but juries are regularly abused by the likes of Mr. Carr, who think that jury pools are a "free" resource for him to waste and abuse with pure silliness.
Posted by Simac on September 28, 2009 at 5:10 PM
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@14: Bigyaz wrote: "His crime wasn't a single can of tuna; it was more than 100 other offenses and refusing any help to get him off the streets."

That's not the way it works. He was on trial and punished for stealing a can of tuna. To punish him for past misdeeds based on a conviction for a can of tuna might make lots of people feel better, but it's not the way our legal system is supposed to work. I haven't looked deeply into this, but presumably we've already dealt with the other 100 offenses.

More interesting, here, is that Carr claimed not to know of this major canned tuna prosecution -- one that people repeatedly bring up and that he says he's been trying for years to track down -- until someone turned up proof that not only does he know about it, he's previously written about it.
Posted by Phil M http://twitter.com/pmocek on September 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM

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