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Thursday, September 17, 2009

Why Does Susan Hutchison Hate Seattle?

Posted by on Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:35 AM

At the Embassy Suites in Tukwila last night, King County Executive candidate Susan Hutchison sung a different tune than at her scripted Seattle press conferences. Addressing the Suburban Cities Association, a network of suburban elected officials, she faced off against challenger Dow Constantine at a dinner forum. Before guests could push butter knives through their hotel chicken breasts, Hutchison was on a Seattle-bashing tirade. She also divulged plans to devastate social services, crush unions, and task sheriff's deputies with chasing dogs.

Hutchison began by trying to distance herself from her Republican roots. “We need a nonpartisan tone of bringing all of us together to solve the complex problems of the county,” she started. “As you know, I am not a politician and I’m a nonpartisan, embracing this race because voters decided that the issues in this county didn’t have a ‘d’ or an ‘r’ next to them.”

“My theme is working together, because I think we have proven long enough that divisive politics doesn’t seem to get anything done,” she said.

No divisive politics? Sign us up.

“There is a feeling among our elected officials and citizens, that the county is Seattle-centric, it is arrogant, imperial, which one word that one mayor used, which is a distortion of the name King County,” she said. (Seattle is home to about one-third of the county's population.) “And our citizens feel that the county treats them with disdain and arrogance. That needs to come to an end, and it certainly would under my administration.”

Indeed, her theme of the night was hardly unifying. It was, rather, the classic Republican rhetoric of trying to pit suburban and rural residents (real Americans) against urban denizens (wasteful, tax-‘n-spend liberals).

Hutchison’s game has sharpened noticeably since her early press speeches, which stuck rigidly to platitudes like “putting the county on a meatloaf, not a steak, diet.” But she fell down—hard—on one question. When asked how the county executive could eliminate the urban subsidy, a program that taxes cities to pay for services in unincorporated King County, Hutchison went dumb.

“I don’t know,” she said. “I have not formulated an answer.”

The non-answer was a damning sign for Redmond City Council Member Hank Margeson. When he arrived, he “hadn’t made a decision” between the candidates, he said. But after finishing his plate, he said, “I wouldn’t say she impressed me. She had an ‘I don’t know’ answer, and that was a little disconcerting.” He preferred Constantine’s proposal to tax utilities in unincorporated areas to relieve the burden carried by struggling suburbs.

Constantine had a Sister Souljah moment when he defended road-building pork, which Seattle detests, but suburbs adore. On campaigning for the roads and transit measure in 2007, he explained that his “environmental friends weren’t happy” with him. He added, “I think we need to focus on getting money into pavement and not into government.”

In speaking about county-run animal shelters, which are in an abysmal state by all accounts, Huchtison made an odd proposition (both candidates agreed that a nonprofit could do a better job running shelters). She noted that some vicious dogs can’t be handled by shelters, and said, “We need to turn that job over to the sheriff’s deputies.”

“I don’t think we want to have sheriff’s deputies going off and chasing dogs around the county,” Constantine responded.

One of Hutchison's recurring themes was the county's budget shortfall, which she said is a problem that could be solved by reducing employee benefits. Thanks to unions, county employees have “gold plated benefits,” Hutchison said. “The executive and the unions are one.” But she would be immune to pressures from organized labor. ”I am not beholden to unions in any way, so I will be able to represent that taxpayers.”

Both candidates spat on Tim Eyman’s latest attempt to devastate the state, Initiative 1033, which would limit the amount of money the government can spend based on how much the previous year's budget. In effect, the measure would lock the state into a recession-era budget forever. “I don’t like government taxing and spending,” Hutchison said (providing another glimpse at her right-wing talking points while revealing her naiveté about a central task of government), “but 1033 goes too far.” She added, “I think that if it passed, it would be a disaster.”

But one of Hutchison’s more revealing moments came when asked how she would sustain the “lifeboat” of health and human services funded by the county. Noting that money is tight, she said, “I would support putting a levy to the people to decide the priorities of human services.” But she acknowledged that the state mandates the county provide some human services. “I am particularly concerned about the elderly, children, and the mentally disabled,” she said. In other words, wholesome issues like senior housing, children's health care, and programs for retarded people would get funding. But, under a Hutchison administration, voters would have to approve more controversial programs like drug treatment, homelessness, renter advocacy, needle exchange, and other city-centric issues. Presumably, suburban voters are less inclined to see those city problems as “priorities of human services.”

While Hutchison’s argument may sound sweet to suburban voters—why should they be forced to pay for needle exchange and homelessness housing in Seattle if their cities don’t have those problems?—they deny the nature of the suburban-urban relationship. Many of these cities, like Black Diamond and Maple Valley, don’t have their own economic engines (or a diversity of business required to be independent). They rely on a functioning business and manufacturing hub for their sustenance. And that hub—Seattle—catches many of the problems for surrounding cities, such as all the homeless, drug addicted, and mentally-ill people. Centralizing those services makes sense, and the county must ensure that programs address the needs for continuum of density, from office towers to flood plains. Funding services in the city is not “Seattle-centric” nor “arrogant” nor “imperial.”

 

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Will in Seattle 1
It's obvious she hates 40 percent of the tax base.

And who is to say how much of the rest of the county she hates?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Cato the Younger Younger 2
If she wins let's leave King County and take our bus routes and tax revenue with us. Oh and we'll charge Sound Transit to use our tunnel.

I fucking hate the cunt Susan Cuntchinson!!
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on September 17, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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Dom, a "sister souljah moment" is not when you pander to the crowd you are addressing in a way that is inconsistent with your base (which, by your account, is what Dow did here). It is when you intentionally piss off the crowd you are addressing (your base) in order to demonstrate to others that you are not beholden to a particular interest.

What Dow did was just regular pandering. If he extolled the virtues of pavement at a Sierra Club dinner, THAT would be a Sister Souljah moment.
Posted by Uh huh on September 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM
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"...wholesome issues like senior housing and health care, child services, and programs for retarded people..."

What school did you attend that you think a characterization like "retarded people" is acceptable in this day and age?
Posted by TJ on September 17, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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As some one from Magnolia I am a bit offended. Last time I checked I was not an imperialist trying to dominate the rest of the county.
Posted by MagnoliaPolitico on September 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM
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We cant have Hutchinson if that’s what she thinks about Seattle.
Posted by MagnoliaPolitico on September 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Dominic Holden 7
@ 3) A Sister Souljah Moment is repudiating a supposedly extremist position, in this case it's an only-fund-transit mentality. He said his environmentally minded friends were angry with him for supporting roads, and then he pandered by extolled the virtues of pavement.
Posted by Dominic Holden on September 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Will in Seattle 8
@2 for the win.

That would be funny. We'd get rid of all the whiners and anti-tax subsidized leeches in one fell swoop and run Sealth County at a PROFIT while the Eastside ran massive and continuing deficits ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM
raindrop 9
Still, we need to know more before making a decision.
Posted by raindrop on September 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM
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HUTCHINSON TO SEATTLE: DROP DEAD!
Posted by izzydog on September 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Baconcat 11
@8: Won't happen if we elect the Republican for mayor.
Posted by Baconcat on September 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM
COMTE 12
Um, because she knows Seattle is predominantly liberal, and her attempts to present herself as a non-partisan aren't flying here, so why waste time, effort and money trying to convince people who already know better?
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on September 17, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Fnarf 13
@8, you are high. We need more regionalism, not less. Seattle without King County would become Detroit faster than you can blink; the hole in the doughnut.

The fact is Seattle is losing impact in the county because we are losing the demographic war. The county is more diverse than us, more economically flexible, and is growing faster. Hutchinson is getting traction with people who understand that. It's people like you who are falling behind.

Fortunately Dow C. is smarter than you are, and he understands how the county works, so he (hopefully) can work around her rhetorical ploy here. Hutchinson has a politician's understanding of the appeal of what she's saying, but has no clue what any of that actually means. She'd be hopeless at governing. But seeing her piss on Eyman worries me; despite what she says, she is a politician to the core.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on September 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Cato the Younger Younger 14
Can someone start a rumor that Susan Hutchinson raped and murdered a young lady in 1990?
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on September 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Baconcat 15
@13: Except Seattle's population growth is starting to pick up steam and the rest of the region is slowing down.

Damn that Seattle! *shakes fist*
Posted by Baconcat on September 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM
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Hey Dom, see, you can write articles without the word idiot in them! You managed to remain partisan while avoiding attacking the person of Hutchinson, by sticking to her mostly abominable ideas. Way to go!
Posted by I'm so proud on September 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Reality Check 17
@ 13 ftw

Fnarf nailed it. And that is why she will win the election.

Will as someone from the Eastside, I'd take your offer in a heartbeat. Within a decade, Bellevue, Redmond, Kirkland and Renton will outpace Seattle in almost every aspect of growth. I'd love to see that happen, as Seattle would become just like Fnarf says.. like Detroit. The affluent have very little reason to spend time in Seattle anymore. There are plenty of places to eat, shop, and be entertained in Bellevue, and thus avoid the crowdedness, filth and hassle that is the common downtown Seattle experience.

You see Dominic, not everyone works in Seattle. In fact I'd offer that almost as many work in the aforementioned cities I listed, and that they do indeed have the ability to be sufficient economic engines. Nice that you needed to mention Maple Valley and Black Diamond, but wisely didn't say Renton, Kent, Bellevue when choosing your example Eastside cities.. That might have made it more tricky to make that claim...
Posted by Reality Check http://www.nraila.org on September 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Fnarf 18
@15: have you BEEN to the county? I'm not talking about Bellevue; I'm talking about Kent and Covington and Auburn and Woodinville and Burien. Yes, Seattle is getting a little population growth, after several decades of stagnation (we only recently repassed our peak of the early 1960s, when Seattle WAS King County, pretty much. County growth rate in 2007 was over 7 percent; Seattle's was 1.3. In 2009, it's true, the numbers are much closer, but you can't go by one-year blips. The fifty-year trend could not possibly be clearer. The city is growing but as a percentage of the county it is shrinking.

If you don't get out into the deep burbs very often, you are probably unaware of just how much like LA we have become. Last week we were lost in a part of Kent south of Southcenter that wasn't even on our five-year-old map. In the last few years we've been getting a handful of (gasp) four-packs, while the county has been getting massive hillsides and valleys of Polygon Homes and Quadrant developments. Creekside looks like thousands of new houses stuffing up the Mt. Rainier view. You should go look at it.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on September 17, 2009 at 12:11 PM
DOUG. 19
Downtown Seattle needs an Applebee's. Or maybe a Chili's. Yeah, that would be cool.
Posted by DOUG. http://www.dougsvotersguide.com on September 17, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Fnarf 20
@17, the affluent have plenty of reasons to shop in Seattle, as Seattle is the only place that offers the individualized boutique experience that rich people crave. Yes, Bellevue has an Hermes now, whoop whoop, and "luxury" name brands still matter, but not as much as they used to; and they will always be a corporate chain store experience, more akin to Walmart in some ways than to the funkier shops in the city. Basically, there isn't ANYTHING you can get in Bellevue that you can't get at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, and that is a bit of a problem.

I think Bellevue has kind of blown it, actually; they've made such a concerted effort to become more city-like downtown, but the model they are following is still pure Vegas. All those new towers are soulless and lifeless, and there STILL isn't anyplace to eat lunch that isn't a goddamn Cheesecake Factory or some other chain. And an upscale chain is still a chain.

The excitement in the county isn't in downtown Bellevue, or Redmond; it's in Overlake and Crossroads and the Kent Highlands -- places where immigrants are bringing life. Seattle's Indian restaurants, for instance, can't begin to compare with what's happening out in the sticks, for instance.

Seattle, unlike Detroit, is a bedroom community for big companies whose offices are out in the sticks. What I meant by Detroit was what would happen if Seattle broke away, not what's happening now. In short, I think Will in Seattle is missing the big picture (surprise, surprise) but you are too, just as badly (and frankly, more offensively).
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on September 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Reality Check 21
@20 You bring up some interesting points. I'm glad the readership here has a chance to read some of this. It might make them take a Saturday drive (if they own a care) to get out of the Seattle urban core, and actually visit more of King county.

Questions Fnarf.. and I"m not being snarky... Have you visited downtown Bellevue recently? In the last 18 months, Bellevue has boomed in regards to high end boutique shops, and high end luxury tenants moving in. It sounds like you have, as yo mentioned some things that are definitely true in regards to the towers... but I'm curious if you've truly given them a fair shot regarding non chain excellent eateries.

From what I've seen, experienced, and learned, Bellevue isn't trying to perfectly copy "the Seattle model"... rather they are going after their own unique niche. They are solely catering to affluence downtown in many ways. Nothing completely out of reach mind you.. but rather just striving to stay high class, yet within the occasional reach of the middle class. They don't care to cater to funky, they don't want to be quirky. Their patrons come from predominantly high tech upper middle class white collar IT worker types. Consequently you won't find alternative fringe boutique stores, as the alternative fringe community doesn't frequent that area.

You may think the towers are soulless and lifeless, but you couldn't be more wrong. Go visit downtown on Saturday afternoon, and you'd be amazed how things have transformed this summer. With the 4 or 5 big condo towers now in full swing, there is a vitality and energy downtown. Last weekend I drove down there to take my wife to Hilltop Yarn, and we were amazed at all the people out and about. There is a downtown farmers market on Saturday mornings in the parking lot of the old Safeway store, and there must have been 200 people milling around browsing the local produce.

I can name you a dozen places off the top of my head that are not chain restaurants, are unique, and serve damn good food. A recommendation? Try Chantanee' Thai... best Thai in King county...

I'm not missing any picture Fnarf. Far from it. I just see things through a different looking glass. Seattle does indeed have an ego problem with respect to the rest of the county. Their politics, culture, and political preferences simply don't match with the rest of the county. I truly hope Seattle would break away from King county. I have no doubt that the new King County would thrive, and that Seattle (and it's smug citizenry) would quickly learn they weren't as important as they originally thought. And they'd also learn, that they wouldn't have the budget to operate as recklessly as they wished they could.
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Posted by Reality Check http://www.nraila.org on September 17, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Will in Seattle 22
@13 - have you ever fucking lived in or near Detroit?

I have, on Grosse Isle. So if you want to go comparing us to Detroit, have some balls and admit you know shit about Detroit, which exists the way it does due to a lot of race-based zoning and "planned" communities to keep black folks out of the white cities. And the whole car-based industry crashing due to stupid decisions by jerks who ran GM and other firms into the ground.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 17, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Fnarf 23
I was just downtown Bellevue last Sunday, not Saturday. It was absolutely deserted from end to end. And all I saw was chain stores, oustide of a few places grimly holding on in the back streets in the old 70s strip malls that are only there because the building collapse prevented their replacement projects going through. Maybe I'll try a Saturday. But I think your "energy" is a pale shadow of what cities are about, though it's obviously much more than it was twenty years ago.

On the restaurant front you've got an insurmountable hurdle. The kind of people who open up high-end quality white-people restaurants, from moguls like Tom Douglas to places like Campagne to more cutting edge places like Sitka and Spruce, say, live and work in Seattle, not Bellevue. You're never going to compete with that, ever. The best you're going to get is a branch of Wild Ginger. Oh, how embarrassing.

Where Bellevue's energy comes from is immigrants. I think the county has the edge on the city there; Seattle is pricing them out. Maybe the new light rail will make a difference; the area around the Othello stop is pretty great, but small still. But the real action is out in the sticks. I mentioned Indian food because there is simply no comparison -- Seattle Indian restaurants are, without exception, mired in the rut of identical gloppy sauces, while the county has Mayuri, Punjabi Sweets, Spice Route, another place I can't remember, Preet's in Redmond -- on and on. Oh, and there's a shitty place in downtown Bellevue.

Indian restaurants are just the tip of the iceberg, of course. And Susan Hutchinson's King County doesn't have anything to do with immigrants. She doesn't have a clue what's going on -- but she knows the right things to say. Which is why I'm worried.
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Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on September 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Will in Seattle 24
(and yeah, I've been to more places in all of King County too - getting lost is fun, actually)
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Fnarf 25
Will, add Detroit to the list of places you know nothing about. I don't care if you lived there or not; you are PIG IGNORANT and have never read a book in your life. Detroit is primarily the way it is because the economic power of the city was marshalled out into the suburbs, while the center of the city was left to die. They thought they didn't need it. They were wrong. Note that Detroit failed decades before the car companies did.

This is not what is happening here. But it is EXACTLY what you are advocating when you suggest Seattle divorce itself from King County. We need more regionalism, not less.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on September 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Will in Seattle 26
@23 - they're not immigrants. Immigrants get green cards. Most of them have H1-B, L1, L2, and other visas. Not the same thing.

Immigrants move to the US and become citizens. Heck, most of the "illegal" immigrants in the US from Mexico want to become US citizens. Not the same thing.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 17, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Will in Seattle 27
@25 - do you read what you write? I just said the whole intentional point was to segregate the "bedroom communities". You call it economics cause you haven't LIVED there. I call it what is WAS.

My point is we don't need to keep subsidizing people who want to live off of our largess. It's an option for us, not a requirement. Counties are split all the time in the US, and historically, states have been formed from other states. Just ask Kentucky, or Dakota, or Carolina.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Jenny from the Block 28
Well to get BACK on topic. My question to Susan H. is, "who do you think makes up the King County unions?" Almost all King County employees are King County residents hence King County taxpayers.
Posted by Jenny from the Block on September 17, 2009 at 1:19 PM
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Correction: Hank Margeson, quoted in the story, is from Redmond. We can safely assume that's not the only thing Dominic got wrong.
Posted by bigyaz on September 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM
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@26 Which visa do they give pedantic Canadian shut-ins?
Posted by SoSea Resident on September 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Dominic Holden 31
@ 29) Good catch. He's from Redmond not Renton. Fixed.
Posted by Dominic Holden on September 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Will in Seattle 32
@28 - guess she hates firefighters and police.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 17, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Cascadian 33
Fnarf@15:

The 2007-2008 census estimates have King County growing at 1.2%, and Seattle at 1.6% (raw data at http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/CO… and http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-…). It's probably recession-related: fewer new Microsoft employees settling on the Eastside from out of the area. But it's an indication that growth in the suburbs is not a foregone conclusion. The suburbs were a result of specific economic conditions that did not exist at one point and might not last forever.

Also, Bellevue is becoming more like Seattle, though it has a long, long way to go and its superblock infrastructure is a serious impediment. The right comparison is not Seattle v. Bellevue but cities v. suburbs in metro areas. I think that more suburbs will become like cities than rural areas will become new suburbs. Good regional planning could make that more likely.
Posted by Cascadian on September 17, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Fnarf 34
I won't even try to parse your insanity @26, but your comment @27 deserves an answer. It never ceases to amaze me just how backwards and full of shit you are, Will. States split off all the time, eh? Of your three examples, ONE split off from an existing state -- in 1792. You are, quite simply, wrong on the facts.

As for Detroit, you have ahold of one leg of the elephant and think you understand the whole thing, which you can't even see, let alone comprehend. You don't understand the implications of "the hole in the doughnut"? You don't think economics had anything to do with it? You don't think economics has anything to do with race? You're a shithead. Add your Detroit "expertise" to the same file as your Canadian ignorance and your San Antonio ignorance and yes, your Seattle ignorance.

And as for this region, if you believe that the city subsidizes the county, you're insane. You are a fuckhead. You are everything that is wrong with Seattle. You are the excuse people like Reality Check need to laugh at city residents.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on September 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM
laterite 35
Fnarf's main point still stands. With those numbers @33 posted, the population of Seattle proper is still only 31% of the total population of King County. Just because Seattle's growing a little faster than the county doesn't mean much. The point is that a lot of King County would probably do just fine without Seattle in the mix. In fact, the tax bases of Clyde Hill, Medina, Yarrow, and parts of the Sammamish Plateau probably subsidize a greater portion of Seattle neighborhoods than Madison Park, Laurelhurst, or Magnolia might subsidize Kent or Bothell/Kenmore.
Posted by laterite on September 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM
laterite 36
Just to expand the discussion into a more regional view, take a look at which populous counties are growing even faster than King. Pierce and Snohomish check in at 1.6 and 1.4%, respectively, and Clark is at 2.0% growth.There's going to be half a million people in and around Vancouver by the end of the next decade. That is incredible. And I would genuinely love to know how many of those people will live in WA but hold jobs in Oregon, undermining that state's tax base.
Posted by laterite on September 17, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Fnarf 37
@36, those numbers are all low-balling, too, because they reflect the worst of the housing and economic slump. In reality, Clark County is potentially capable of 10% growth or more -- they've done it before. And a huge portion of that IS Portland jobs -- Portland's super-strict Urban Growth Boundary works in Oregon largely by pushing the crappy unplanned growth into Washington. Vancouver's newest areas are just a spectacularly hideous cancer. But those people vote.

Our Simi Valley and Antelope Valley are in places like Monroe to the north and Puyallup South Hill to the south. Not King County, but part of our region and our economic fabric. Our lack of regional thinking is pushing fucked-up growth into those areas with no plan and no thinking.

To get back to the subject at hand, Hutchinson's strategy is to appeal to suburban voters annoyed at Seattle arrogance (as exemplified by Will in Seattle's ignorant "fuck you, county, we support you, we'll secede" rants). It DOESN'T MATTER whether she has any intelligible answers to the problem; it only matters whether she has identified it correctly enough to get those votes.

That's what Dow is contending with, and what he needs to focus on. I think he's doing a pretty good job touting his understanding of the actual issues, and what needs to be done, but maybe is conceding a little too much of the emotional appeal.

People's frustrations are not imaginary. Seattle IS a little arrogant sometimes. So is the county. But the issue needs to be addressed, preferably by someone smarter than Susan Hutchinson, who is asking the right question but is herself the wrong answer.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on September 17, 2009 at 4:30 PM

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