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News Hutchison Leads Race for County Exec.
Posted by Dominic Holden on Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Reports KING 5 television:
In KING 5’s first head-to-head poll between former TV news anchor Susan Hutchison and King County Councilmember Dow Constantine, likely voters picked Hutchison over Constantine, 47 percent to 44 percent.That gap is within 4.2 percent margin of error for the poll, conducted by SurveyUSA, which asked 557 likely voters who they would pick if the election were held today. Ten percent of voters are undecided, making any outcome possible.
Constantine's campaign to reveal Hutchison's right-wing roots could turn the tables. In the poll's breakdown, one-third of Democrats still support Hutchison. Those Dems, who are likely to switch sides as Hutchison's conservative history comes out, make up 46 percent of the vote. Meanwhile, only 21 percent of Republicans currently support Constantine, and could shift to Hutchison, but they represent just 26 percent of the electorate.
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Did you hear? Now that Sarah Palin's on the ticket, McCain/Palin is beating Obama by 8 points. The polls prove it, this one's over!!
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Beware the polls, but, beware the Eastside, the real county, many of whom are very angry with the last ten years of the King county govt.
Those of us in Seattle are not in touch with what that is all about,and where it leads.
Dow needs to go to work and gets his base very active in grass roots activation.
By the way, Bacon person, there is no Obama in this race.
Those of us in Seattle are not in touch with what that is all about,and where it leads.
Dow needs to go to work and gets his base very active in grass roots activation.
By the way, Bacon person, there is no Obama in this race.
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Bu,buh,buh,buh,but... Dom.... you said she was "toast". "TOAST". Just like you said that Ref.71 had a "snowball's chance in hell" of making it on the ballot.
Perhaps, kiddo, you should give up the prediction gig. It's just not working out for you so well.
Perhaps, kiddo, you should give up the prediction gig. It's just not working out for you so well.
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Susan Hutchinson is the lady who used to be on the TV. She's pretty and friendly, and dresses well. She's one of us, and would bring our point of view to county government, which is all about poor people and liberal fatcats.
I'm a mom. And I've voting for Susan Hutchinson for Mayor of King County
I'm a mom. And I've voting for Susan Hutchinson for Mayor of King County
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>>And I've voting for Susan Hutchinson for Mayor of King County <<
This indicates, I believe, the political knowledge of the average American Voter.
My friends are also moms, but they hold university degrees and know that Dow is the best person to serve as King County EXECUTIVE.
This indicates, I believe, the political knowledge of the average American Voter.
My friends are also moms, but they hold university degrees and know that Dow is the best person to serve as King County EXECUTIVE.
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#6
I have been close to her many times in the studio - and frankly - she smells like a pleasant NW brown - crumpled maple leaf, hint of drying grass, mixed wild berry with verbena - and some days too much like a strong hint of saturated kotex.
Oh, well, at least I am honest.
KIRO Crew
I have been close to her many times in the studio - and frankly - she smells like a pleasant NW brown - crumpled maple leaf, hint of drying grass, mixed wild berry with verbena - and some days too much like a strong hint of saturated kotex.
Oh, well, at least I am honest.
KIRO Crew
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There's already plenty of liberal progressives in local and state government. That's why we need Susan for King County executive.
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Neocons can go to bed safe in the thought that their Republican anti-evolution stealth candidate Susan Hutchison has won.
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This inability to recognize sarcasm and pathetic need to show how much smarter we are than those we disagree with indicate, I believe, the typical lack of real world understanding of the average Liberal Seattle hipster.
People who brag about their own and their friends' university degrees are clueless boring sacks of shit.
This inability to recognize sarcasm and pathetic need to show how much smarter we are than those we disagree with indicate, I believe, the typical lack of real world understanding of the average Liberal Seattle hipster.
People who brag about their own and their friends' university degrees are clueless boring sacks of shit.
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2 ftw
Liberals are notoriously clueless about Real Americans.
Gore and Kerry and their Leftwing MSM fanboys were shocked- SHOCKED- (twice...) that a bumbler like W beat them.
Liberals are notoriously clueless about Real Americans.
Gore and Kerry and their Leftwing MSM fanboys were shocked- SHOCKED- (twice...) that a bumbler like W beat them.
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Damn Dom-
I feel bad about always calling you for being such a clueless Jackass but you don't leave any choice.
You assured us Hutchison was mired in the 30s% and that the Dems were going to follow those (meaningless) endorsements and Dow was unstoppable.
All the credulous hipsters you run with think any Republican must be an ASSHOLE and a BIGOT and NO ONE would vote for Hutchison once you paint her Red.
Real World Grownups could care less. They are mature enough to look at the total package the candidates present and make an informed choice.
Your boy Dow has real liabilities that you are blind to.
Try not to embarrass yourself much more.
Stick to facts and spare us the SavageSuckup view of the world.
I feel bad about always calling you for being such a clueless Jackass but you don't leave any choice.
You assured us Hutchison was mired in the 30s% and that the Dems were going to follow those (meaningless) endorsements and Dow was unstoppable.
All the credulous hipsters you run with think any Republican must be an ASSHOLE and a BIGOT and NO ONE would vote for Hutchison once you paint her Red.
Real World Grownups could care less. They are mature enough to look at the total package the candidates present and make an informed choice.
Your boy Dow has real liabilities that you are blind to.
Try not to embarrass yourself much more.
Stick to facts and spare us the SavageSuckup view of the world.
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So why don't we organize a referendum to kill this non-partisan election bullshit? The people have a right to know if someone is a Republican.
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Listen carefully,
credulous slog reading
SavageAssKissing
clueless Liberal:
E v e r y o n e
k n o w s
a l r e a d y.
Did you get that?
EVERYBODY IN KING COUNTY ALREADY KNOWS SUSAN IS A REPUBLICAN.
Now pay attention to the next part-
N o
o n e
(except slog)
c a r e s.
Only on Slog is it a crime to be a Republican.
Now be careful out there...
it is a dangerous world for the totally Real World Clueless.
Listen carefully,
credulous slog reading
SavageAssKissing
clueless Liberal:
E v e r y o n e
k n o w s
a l r e a d y.
Did you get that?
EVERYBODY IN KING COUNTY ALREADY KNOWS SUSAN IS A REPUBLICAN.
Now pay attention to the next part-
N o
o n e
(except slog)
c a r e s.
Only on Slog is it a crime to be a Republican.
Now be careful out there...
it is a dangerous world for the totally Real World Clueless.
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Damn, if she wins where will I get my funding for my program to teach the lute to gang bangers in the CD, part of my 'arts for thugs' program the world so desperately needs?
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@15 Trouble is that this was already up for a vote and the people voted for it not realizing the consequences. Even Democrats voted for it. I know I was trying to convince people how this was a trick by Republicans to get them elected in King County.
The best we can do is let people know she is a Republican every chance we get. People in the more rural suburbs are not always playing with a full deck of understanding on political issues.
The best we can do is let people know she is a Republican every chance we get. People in the more rural suburbs are not always playing with a full deck of understanding on political issues.
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I agree no one cares whether Susan is a Republican or not.
Being a Republican does not keep any thinking person from voting for you, nor should being a Democrat mean you should get anyone's vote
However, denying science, being anti-choice, believing that saving tiny fractions of money by 'slashing taxes' is better policy for a county than having a sane tax policy and great government services, supporting corporate polluters over green policy, thinking more roads are more important than a regional transit plan, etc, etc.
Constantine vs. Hutchison is a great race not because it is Republican vs. Democrat, but because it offers candidates running against each other who have very different world views. Constantine values education, social justice, strong environmental policies, good efficient government, transit, jobs based on new emerging industries while Susan favors big business over all, denies scientific thinking favoring superstition over logic, more money for more roads, little for transit, a tax policy that will barely lower individual taxes, massively lower corporate taxes for large companies, while making the County slash services we all rely on.
Voting for Hutchison will get King County the sort of leadership the far right politicians she donates to and is philosophically aligned with would provide (Bush, Huckabee, etc) - massive budget deficits, failing infrastructure, corruption, and abuse of working people by massive businesses.
Hutchison is not very smart - as the people who worked with her will attest. She has little experience running anything but her not very successful TV career (remember she was let go for low ratings and not showing up for work).
The choice is obvious for the majority of voters IF Dow's campaign can effectively lay out his agenda. Dow is smart, experienced, and has views in line with the majority of King County voters. It's going to be difficult to overcome Susan's name recognition and some of the King County government's missteps over the last decade, but my vote is solidly with Dow.
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Being a Republican does not keep any thinking person from voting for you, nor should being a Democrat mean you should get anyone's vote
However, denying science, being anti-choice, believing that saving tiny fractions of money by 'slashing taxes' is better policy for a county than having a sane tax policy and great government services, supporting corporate polluters over green policy, thinking more roads are more important than a regional transit plan, etc, etc.
Constantine vs. Hutchison is a great race not because it is Republican vs. Democrat, but because it offers candidates running against each other who have very different world views. Constantine values education, social justice, strong environmental policies, good efficient government, transit, jobs based on new emerging industries while Susan favors big business over all, denies scientific thinking favoring superstition over logic, more money for more roads, little for transit, a tax policy that will barely lower individual taxes, massively lower corporate taxes for large companies, while making the County slash services we all rely on.
Voting for Hutchison will get King County the sort of leadership the far right politicians she donates to and is philosophically aligned with would provide (Bush, Huckabee, etc) - massive budget deficits, failing infrastructure, corruption, and abuse of working people by massive businesses.
Hutchison is not very smart - as the people who worked with her will attest. She has little experience running anything but her not very successful TV career (remember she was let go for low ratings and not showing up for work).
The choice is obvious for the majority of voters IF Dow's campaign can effectively lay out his agenda. Dow is smart, experienced, and has views in line with the majority of King County voters. It's going to be difficult to overcome Susan's name recognition and some of the King County government's missteps over the last decade, but my vote is solidly with Dow.
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@23 - re: social justice (4th paragarph):
Who should get that justice and who should decide gets that justice. And what types of justice are we talking about?
Who should get that justice and who should decide gets that justice. And what types of justice are we talking about?
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@24 - exactly the type of question I would expect from the far right. I obviously don't know where your politics are, but it strikes me that you might be a Hutchison supporter who agrees with her embracing of far right religious ideas.
First, Social Justice is the idea of moving towards a more socially just world based on the ideas of equality and basic human rights for all. So, as to who, it's everyone.
As to who decides - it's society, through our democaratically elected representatives and laws.
As for what types - first, equality under the law applies to everyone - yes, even gays, women, people of color and people with different religious ideas than you.
First, Social Justice is the idea of moving towards a more socially just world based on the ideas of equality and basic human rights for all. So, as to who, it's everyone.
As to who decides - it's society, through our democaratically elected representatives and laws.
As for what types - first, equality under the law applies to everyone - yes, even gays, women, people of color and people with different religious ideas than you.
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Susie will tap this bizarre anit establishment mood out there - they are crazy - but it is a political force.
And she can go very negative, she need only keep smiling, with one hand gently across her boosom .... does she have kids who will tell us they love their mom?
Beware, she has fangs and smart consultants - it is not ruse, it is strategy to win.
Dow is snappy rad with the same old ideas. For Christ sakes, the county is selling parks and closing them .... is there any anger? I bet.
And she can go very negative, she need only keep smiling, with one hand gently across her boosom .... does she have kids who will tell us they love their mom?
Beware, she has fangs and smart consultants - it is not ruse, it is strategy to win.
Dow is snappy rad with the same old ideas. For Christ sakes, the county is selling parks and closing them .... is there any anger? I bet.
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@ 26 - Susan can definitely win. As can Dow, who will match her fundraising. Dow's ideas are hardly the same old ones, those were coming from some of his Dem opponents in the primary. Granted, he needs to get his out there and be aggressive about challenging Hutchison, who has very shallow policy threats, but will be great at the televised debates.
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Let's see ... King County easily elected a Republican Prosecutor, and a Republican Sheriff, and passed a Republican-sponsored "nonpartisan" charter amendment ... yep, that settles it -- as soon as they find out she's a Republican, Hutchison is TOAST.
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"As to who decides - it's society, through our democaratically elected representatives and laws."
So when some state legislatures outlaw gay marriage and civil union and the voters ratify that with 75% majorities you are ok with it?
"As to who decides - it's society, through our democaratically elected representatives and laws."
So when some state legislatures outlaw gay marriage and civil union and the voters ratify that with 75% majorities you are ok with it?
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"First, Social Justice is the idea of moving towards a more socially just world based on the ideas of equality and basic human rights for all. So, as to who, it's everyone."
When will the weakest, most vulnerable (and also most innocent in every sense of the word) members of society, the yet to be born, get a little Social Justice?
"First, Social Justice is the idea of moving towards a more socially just world based on the ideas of equality and basic human rights for all. So, as to who, it's everyone."
When will the weakest, most vulnerable (and also most innocent in every sense of the word) members of society, the yet to be born, get a little Social Justice?
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Dave M. - nice to see you again at Slog. And as we all know, you back the talk.
Oh, there is my ride to Bumper mania ... and he is very sweet and very good looking .... shy brown eyes, lanky and toned ... who cares about the music ...
Cheers, Albert
Oh, there is my ride to Bumper mania ... and he is very sweet and very good looking .... shy brown eyes, lanky and toned ... who cares about the music ...
Cheers, Albert
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Minert: That's not social justice, that's equality and due process under the law. Social justice implies a penalty, reparations, punitive damages, etc. That's a whole different thing.
I'm a right-of-center homosexual male. Yes, such combinations exist.
I don't think that the former chair of the Seattle Symphony's board or directors, Susan Hutchison, as someone antithetical to the virtues you enumerated in post 25.
The mud being thrown is simply not sticking to her.
No, Susan would probably not march in a gay-pride parade if elected but that doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I'm a right-of-center homosexual male. Yes, such combinations exist.
I don't think that the former chair of the Seattle Symphony's board or directors, Susan Hutchison, as someone antithetical to the virtues you enumerated in post 25.
The mud being thrown is simply not sticking to her.
No, Susan would probably not march in a gay-pride parade if elected but that doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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@24
Social justice = blame white men for for everything!
"Social Justice is the idea of moving towards a more socially just world based on the ideas of equality and basic human rights for all."
What, no details?
"Social justice implies a penalty, reparations, punitive damages, etc."
Show me da money!
"Susan would probably not march in a gay-pride parade if elected but that doesn't bother me in the slightest"
I hope they'd invite her so they'll be one person there with more makeup than the drag queens.
Social justice = blame white men for for everything!
"Social Justice is the idea of moving towards a more socially just world based on the ideas of equality and basic human rights for all."
What, no details?
"Social justice implies a penalty, reparations, punitive damages, etc."
Show me da money!
"Susan would probably not march in a gay-pride parade if elected but that doesn't bother me in the slightest"
I hope they'd invite her so they'll be one person there with more makeup than the drag queens.
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@32 - google "social justice" and do some reading on it. Really, don't start arguing about ideas you don't know much about.
Calling Hutchison out in the way I have and will continue to is not mud slinging. It's truth. Being a chair of the Symphony is hardly a progressive position. She was there because of her celebrity.
I have a really difficult time with anyone espousing the the Discovery Institute's anti-science propaganda. As do most voters in King County. Maybe you don't, that's cool, no hate here. But people fighting to keep science out of education because rational conclusions following research and theoretical testing disagrees with their pre-rational superstitious religious beliefs should have no place in making laws or running our government.
Hutchison's beliefs will do much more than keep her from marching in a parade promoting equal rights for all our citizens, it will keep her from making policies protecting the rights of all citizens as well. It will keep her from funding county services that we now rely on - like drug courts, homeless shelters, family planning clinics, environmental protection, etc. How is a denier of Science going to work to protect our environment - by praying? We need someone who is smart, thoughtful and understands not only policy but reality. This is not Hutchison.
Calling Hutchison out in the way I have and will continue to is not mud slinging. It's truth. Being a chair of the Symphony is hardly a progressive position. She was there because of her celebrity.
I have a really difficult time with anyone espousing the the Discovery Institute's anti-science propaganda. As do most voters in King County. Maybe you don't, that's cool, no hate here. But people fighting to keep science out of education because rational conclusions following research and theoretical testing disagrees with their pre-rational superstitious religious beliefs should have no place in making laws or running our government.
Hutchison's beliefs will do much more than keep her from marching in a parade promoting equal rights for all our citizens, it will keep her from making policies protecting the rights of all citizens as well. It will keep her from funding county services that we now rely on - like drug courts, homeless shelters, family planning clinics, environmental protection, etc. How is a denier of Science going to work to protect our environment - by praying? We need someone who is smart, thoughtful and understands not only policy but reality. This is not Hutchison.
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@31 - thanks and good luck, I hope you find some music that helps the mood become right for the night.
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Hutchison represents the worst that America has to offer - proudly ignorant, anti education, anti-science and anti-reason. the sum total of her "experience" is her time on the Board of the Discovery Institute, which has as it's stated goals:
Governing Goals
· To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural and political legacies.
· To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and hurnan beings are created by God.
Five Year Goals
· To see intelligent design theory as an accepted alternative in the sciences and scientific research being done from the perspective of design theory.
· To see the beginning of the influence of design theory in spheres other than natural science.
· To see major new debates in education, life issues, legal and personal responsibility pushed to the front of the national agenda.
Twenty Year Goals
· To see intelligent design theory as the dominant perspective in science. · To see design theory application in specific fields, including molecular biology, biochemistry, paleontology, physics and cosmology in the natural sciences, psychology, ethics, politics, theology
She is Palin, Bachmann and Bush rolled into a camera-ready package with years of teleprompter reading experience. In other words, she is a dangerous puppet in the hands of some of the most extreme religious activists in the nation.
A PDF of hte governing principles of the Discovery Instute below
http://www.antievolution.org/features/we…
Governing Goals
· To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural and political legacies.
· To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and hurnan beings are created by God.
Five Year Goals
· To see intelligent design theory as an accepted alternative in the sciences and scientific research being done from the perspective of design theory.
· To see the beginning of the influence of design theory in spheres other than natural science.
· To see major new debates in education, life issues, legal and personal responsibility pushed to the front of the national agenda.
Twenty Year Goals
· To see intelligent design theory as the dominant perspective in science. · To see design theory application in specific fields, including molecular biology, biochemistry, paleontology, physics and cosmology in the natural sciences, psychology, ethics, politics, theology
She is Palin, Bachmann and Bush rolled into a camera-ready package with years of teleprompter reading experience. In other words, she is a dangerous puppet in the hands of some of the most extreme religious activists in the nation.
A PDF of hte governing principles of the Discovery Instute below
http://www.antievolution.org/features/we…
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Looks like Dom just did another of his famous copy & paste jobs, straight from Kaushik or Sinderman, no doubt. What's this "campaign to reveal Hutchison's right-wing roots" that you speak of? Sure that's not coming from an IE campaign, and you just let the cat out of the bag?
Taking the partisan approach to this race after the primary is incredibly backwards, and risky: the odds it will backfire are enormous. Dow had to campaign as the most liberal of the pack to make it through, but the voters who will decide this race in November couldn't give two shakes about partisanship--party labels won't even be on the ballot.
Of course, that's the only way Democrats know how to campaign in Seattle proper anymore. Run as far to the Left as you can, and define yourself as the vessel of "progressive" values--and the opposition as anathema to them.
In the process, Constantine will conveniently neglect to offer real solutions to the problems of King County government. Ironic, since he and his pre-primary compatriots all accused Hutchison of running the "no new ideas" campaign.
Taking the partisan approach to this race after the primary is incredibly backwards, and risky: the odds it will backfire are enormous. Dow had to campaign as the most liberal of the pack to make it through, but the voters who will decide this race in November couldn't give two shakes about partisanship--party labels won't even be on the ballot.
Of course, that's the only way Democrats know how to campaign in Seattle proper anymore. Run as far to the Left as you can, and define yourself as the vessel of "progressive" values--and the opposition as anathema to them.
In the process, Constantine will conveniently neglect to offer real solutions to the problems of King County government. Ironic, since he and his pre-primary compatriots all accused Hutchison of running the "no new ideas" campaign.
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@ 38 - jeesh, you got me. Damn, now everyone knows I'm secretly a Republican. Gosh darn it. But it's only because they are the party of right wing church I'm secretly the pastor of.
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#40 - Dave, no bother.
Crackheads do not function in any rational way - sad, sad, sad.
You make some money, hold you own and still enjoy life in a rational manner. Crack heads and meth freaks will always throw mud - if only they could spend all of you money, or, anyone's money for that matter.
Disregard their rantings.
#38 - go for some treatment, life can improve for you.
Albert Bramble
Crackheads do not function in any rational way - sad, sad, sad.
You make some money, hold you own and still enjoy life in a rational manner. Crack heads and meth freaks will always throw mud - if only they could spend all of you money, or, anyone's money for that matter.
Disregard their rantings.
#38 - go for some treatment, life can improve for you.
Albert Bramble
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@40
It doesn't matter what you say. It's what you do. And, greedhead, you gouge. You have Republican values.
It doesn't matter what you say. It's what you do. And, greedhead, you gouge. You have Republican values.
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Dow will have to work for the Executive's job (Sorry, Dominic), but he's still likely to win. Susan has put forward no solutions so far and will have to stand side-by-side with Dow at the debates. I don't like her chances.
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The problem is that Dems have done a poor job of exposing just how broad and deep her right wing roots are.
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