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Media Apparently, They Do Have Limits
Posted by Paul Constant on Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:26 PM
I can't tell if this means that American Apparel is getting old (Calvin Klein, of course, is the creepy old uncle of inappropriate-looking ads) or that Vice is getting tamer.
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I've seen WAY more suggestive AA ads. And remember the CK Kate Moss ads in the 90s? That shit was way more crazy. This is nothing.
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Growing up in a mostly Italian town, it was fairly common to have young men whistle at girls who were maybe 12, but looked 18. I remember one of my son's friends, when she was 16 was complaining about being hit on when she worked downtown.
Kate Moss - isn't she still on heroin?
Kate Moss - isn't she still on heroin?
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Here's another American Apparel ad with the same girl that appeared in People.
http://femaletalk.com/news/american-appa…
http://femaletalk.com/news/american-appa…
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the ad on the back of the current issue of vice of an even younger looking model showing off her crotch on a glass coffee table is much racier than this.
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That ad is pretty tame, and the model doesn't strike me as being particularly young. How old do people think those models in the big fashion magazine editorials are? Unless they're famous, they're a hell of a lot younger than 23, or 18, or 14.
One of the founders of Vice is a pretty well known conservative, so don't expect any more moral consistency from the magazine than you would from the Fox network. I'm surprised they rejected the ad, but it's got to be about money, nothing else.
One of the founders of Vice is a pretty well known conservative, so don't expect any more moral consistency from the magazine than you would from the Fox network. I'm surprised they rejected the ad, but it's got to be about money, nothing else.
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this is strange.... of all the AA ads to lodge an actual (well, sort of actual) complaint over, this is the one?
the ads walk the line, sure.... but a 23 year old? i think the over-the-top nature of the AA ads surprises older people who are not used to what 20 years look like in the year 2009, because most of their models do not look like 15 year olds to me.
i don't like the nature of many AA ads for personal moral reasons, but i'm not sure they are the sort of reasons i'd want to translate into legislation. were i to, i'm not sure this ad would be the poster child.
the ads walk the line, sure.... but a 23 year old? i think the over-the-top nature of the AA ads surprises older people who are not used to what 20 years look like in the year 2009, because most of their models do not look like 15 year olds to me.
i don't like the nature of many AA ads for personal moral reasons, but i'm not sure they are the sort of reasons i'd want to translate into legislation. were i to, i'm not sure this ad would be the poster child.
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This chick look like one of those middle school teachers who "dresses young" and dates her 8th grade students.
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You've fundamentally read the story wrong. The ad standards board asked that the ad not run and American Apparel complied. Vice did not ban the ad. Please correct these basic facts.
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I don't hate this aa ad as much as some of their other ones. Usually what bothers me about them is the extent to which the girls look like they've been drugged and raped or drugged and about to be raped. From what I've heard about some of the people involved this might not even be that far off from what actually goes on. And really, exploitation makes me feel icky no matter what the age of the "model". Anyway. I'm not outraged at aa in particular, I just don't give the company any of my money because their ads disgust me. This model doesn't look that drugged or rape-y, but I am still getting my stupid leggings somewhere else.
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Yeah, I'm with Gin Gin.
Then again, I am 28 and look about 15, so I know the routine. I'm just a size 10 and thus way too meaty for an American Apparel ad.
Then again, I am 28 and look about 15, so I know the routine. I'm just a size 10 and thus way too meaty for an American Apparel ad.
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"Usually what bothers me about them is the extent to which the girls look like they've been drugged and raped or drugged and about to be raped"
You never had a myspace account, did you?
"From what I've heard about some of the people involved this might not even be that far off from what actually goes on."
Oh give me a fucking break. AA has terrible record with sexual harassment, but that is not rape, and it is not drugging their models. It IS far off from what actually goes on, even if the actuality is still skeezy. I still haven't heard anything non-consensual going on with the models, so please give an update if you have any actual proof of this.
You never had a myspace account, did you?
"From what I've heard about some of the people involved this might not even be that far off from what actually goes on."
Oh give me a fucking break. AA has terrible record with sexual harassment, but that is not rape, and it is not drugging their models. It IS far off from what actually goes on, even if the actuality is still skeezy. I still haven't heard anything non-consensual going on with the models, so please give an update if you have any actual proof of this.
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Vice didn't ban the ad you jackass. The ASA did. It ran in the back cover of the magazine. Please do your research.
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