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Friday, August 28, 2009

Yoko Ono's People Give Seattle Artist the Smackdown

Posted by on Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Dear Amanda Mae,

Michael Darling, the curator of "Painting Under Attack" at the Seattle Art Museum, has forwarded a copy of your letter to him, and your statement about your action.

I am certain that you were motivated to do your action by fine principles and good intentions. However, I believe that you were wrong to do what you did. You acted as a kind of "art police," presuming that you knew better what the artists intention was than those many others who had either hammered a nail or added some object to the work. What you characterize as "pocket garbage" might well have been gestures of love or items of deep emotional content. Even a piece of chewing gum stuck to the surface would have had a connection to the mouth of the person who put the gum on the surface. Hannah Wilke made numerous sculptures casting chewing gum that she had chewed in gold.

There are numerous ambiguous works of art. Art is not just a linear or two-dimensional domain. Think, for instance, of Man Ray's Object to Be Destroyed, which existed for many years as an enigmatic post-Dada sculpture. At one point, a literalist took it upon him or herself to actually destroy the object. Pity, as we no longer have that original perplexing work to consider. There are only replicas. Arakawa made a painting, titled Steal This Painting. Which a group of art students did one day. But was that really the intention of Arakawa?

I think you have to consider art in a much deeper, more profound sense than you do. And also, to have greater respect for the artist, and not presume that you know what she intends. If the artist had instructed the work to be returned to its "austere" beginnings, that would have been her prerogative. But as she did not, you didn't have the right to dictate what the artist's intention was, and to rob those many people who had interacted with the work before you of their contribution to this process. A better approach would have been to contact the artist, and say how disturbed you were at the perceived change of the intention of the work, and ask whether it could be restored.

A participatory work is of course very different from a static work, and surprising things happen. So one could argue that your participation was just as justifiable as anyone else's participation. As I know that you were motivated by good intentions, I would like to think of it this way.

All the best,
Jon


YOKO ONO EXHIBITIONS
Jon Hendricks
Curator

Back story here and here.

 

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Baconcat 1
Yoko and her people are freakin' amazing.

Of course, Mae's actions only add to the fabric of the work. Maybe someone should print this letter and attach it to the work.
Posted by Baconcat on August 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM
PussyDunkinHines 2
Mixed messages...
Posted by PussyDunkinHines on August 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM
3
She's mostly able to be so cool about it because the artwork in question has no inherent value and very little labor value.
Posted by All The Critics Love You In New York on August 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM
4
I want to see it now and it's just on the other side of the walls of where I sitting now...

Posted by CommonKnowledge on August 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Will in Seattle 5
Like I said, should have just used a can of lighter fluid and a match ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM
6
HA HA
Posted by jns on August 28, 2009 at 11:34 AM
7
no wonder Real Americans think modern art is a crock of shit and gag at the prospect of public funding.
Posted by Crayons and Paper on August 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM
LaRiiiiM0RrrHAwtiiii696969 8
HAHAHAHAHH YOKO ONO'S PEEPS

DID MS ONO INTEND 4 US TO HAMMER INTO PAINTING? LET US PONDER ENIGMATIC POST-POST.

DID MS ONO INTEND TO BREAK UP AWFUL SHITTY BAND? WHO KNOWS?

DOES MS ONO HAVE A FAGGY CHUBSTER OF A SON? DEF.

DOES MS ONO MEAN ANYTING RELEVANT TO ME? IDK.

I THINK I NEED TO PONDER.

YOKO BABE, YOU'VE BEEN HIDING A FASCISTISTIC STREAK 4 YRS. PLZ STOP PRETENDING TO DECONSTRUCT OR HAVE TWERKING KNAWLEDGZ OF KNTRKULTR OR ANYTING ALSE.
Posted by LaRiiiiM0RrrHAwtiiii696969 http://balkin.blogspot.com/ on August 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM
DavidC 9
" no wonder Real Americans think modern art is a crock of shit and gag at the prospect of public funding."

Amen
Posted by DavidC http://members.shaw.ca/karenanddavid/ on August 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Jaymz 10
Looking back now, perhaps I should have read the "instructions" more carefully and just added a nail to the piece, instead of joining with those before me who added "stuff" - but I think this type of mis-interpretation is exactly what participatory art involves. I continue to agree with SAM's decision - the employee was improperly acting as the Art Police and should have been canned. Also, this controversy is a terrific springboard to discuss art - commenters rejection of the artist and the concept make great reading!
Posted by Jaymz on August 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
LaRiiiiM0RrrHAwtiiii696969 11
I'M SOOOO CONFLICTED I WISH PEEPS HADN'T HAMMERED AND TOOK DOWN AND STOLE AND DESTROYED AND FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS. SHHHHHEEEEEET. INSTRUCTION ART THAT DOESN'T START 'FUCK YOURSELF' AND END 'UNTIL U BLEED AND CRY' IS NOT INTERESTING.
Posted by LaRiiiiM0RrrHAwtiiii696969 http://balkin.blogspot.com/ on August 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
slaggy 12
@ #8 & #9 - Real Americans? Please elaborate.
Posted by slaggy http://www.videowatchdog.com on August 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Soupytwist 13
The best part
of a lot of Art
is that there are no Rules,
just Process.

*spins around until she fall down*
Posted by Soupytwist http://twitter.com/katherinesmith on August 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM
14
Speaking of chewing gum as art...I will skip going to the SAM for now and go to Alibi Room instead for a tasty, tasty Friday lunch while viewing the wall of "connections to the surface." I don't plan on restoring that piece, by the way. Maybe Amanda Mae can rip of pieces and begin to re-chew them.
Posted by CommonKnowledge on August 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
15
"I think you have to consider art in a much deeper, more profound sense than you do."

Ouch. Saying that to an artist is like saying 'your momma' to someone whose mom just died.

Though I think the letter is wrong. It should have read:
"I think you have to consider art in a much shallower, less profound sense than you do."

Mae's error was taking it too seriously. I get the impression that she resented people's involvement because she didn't think their contributions were serious enough or worthy to be added to the piece. She was probably right, too. But at the same time, it wasn't her call.

Either way, the letter assumes she doesn't think of art in a serious or profound way, which is obviously not true, and reads (to me) like a petty swipe. They both come across as petty now, and that makes her 'excavation' seem less sacrilegious.
Posted by You you you you on August 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
16
This letter is Ono at her best: elegant, spare, compassionate, hurt, written by someone else.

It focuses directly on what was insupportable about Mae's project: her belief that her need to interact with the work gave her the right to dismantle the interactions of others.

She did not know better.
Posted by Stace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LNwUjd0gLo on August 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM
17
At the Washington State Fair they had a project very similar to this-
There was a light blue plastic booth about 3 feet square and six feet tall with a door on the front; ordinary people took turns going inside and adding their contribution to the art. There was even a handy little seat to sit on while taking your turn. The resulting mosaic was mostly various shades of brown and green, and with assorted textures, squishy smooth or chunky lumps. It is exquisite. (It even has an aromatic quality)
For a mere $23,400 we would be willing to let SAM sit it in their lobby for a month.
Posted by Real Art by Real Americans on August 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM
18
#16 FTW
Posted by genevieve on August 28, 2009 at 12:55 PM
sirkowski 19
Art is SERIOUS BUSINESS!
Posted by sirkowski http://www.missdynamite.com on August 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM
20
@ #13 Soupytwist: nice. yours?
Posted by JeanineA http://twitter.com/JeanineA on August 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM
21
@8 & 9
Of course, tax revenues from sales of artwork in this country have always exceeded any "public funding" by billions of dollars. Perhaps next time you'll re-consider before attempting to think.
Posted by bjank on August 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM
leek 22
Jaymz: You said "I think this type of mis-interpretation is exactly what participatory art involves" regarding people sticking things to the piece. Why doesn't Mae's "misinterpretation" qualify as part of the participatory art, then?

This whole thing is hard for me to get too concerned with, but I do find it very odd that people keep returning to the "you have to interact with this piece of art in THIS undefined way, not THAT one!"

Posted by leek on August 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM
23
If your interactive work has limitations on what kind of interactivity is possible, include those in the instructions. Unfortunately, the outcome of Mae's involvement only embroils us in the inanities of a dysfunctional bureaucracy, a far too common and exceedingly annoying occurrence to people who are capable of thinking in a linear manner, hence the comments about contemporary art. To me that is a failure on Ono's part, but then again it's not in her best interest to get near causing Darling to lose face. The letter both dances this dance and neglects to take a concrete stand on the issue in general.

It's an interactive piece. There are so many possible interpretations of the instruction "hammer a nail". I'd like to see audiences get a little more creative, if only to relieve the boredom.
Posted by Lynn Schirmer http://www.lynnschirmer.com on August 29, 2009 at 3:15 AM
24
If this guy isn't the Art Police, I'd like to know who is. Btw, someone should tell him it's not cool to start sentences with "and" or "but." Did he go to college?
Posted by mappamundi on August 31, 2009 at 8:23 AM
NumberOne 25
where or what is this elusive "@8" that 21 & 12 (palindrome included) keep mentioning?
Posted by NumberOne on September 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM
NumberOne 26
I still just can't believe people consider things like "hammer and nail" to be art.

Call me old fashioned, but IMO modern art went downhill after dada.
Posted by NumberOne on September 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM
amanda mae 27
(my response sent via e-mail)

Dear Mr Hendricks,

Thank you for your thoughtful words on my recent performance. For the record, I am not a hammer wielding lunatic looking for a Duchamp "Fountain" to destroy, nor a cheeky art student pulling a stunt. My motivations were difficult to describe so the term "austere" appears as a reference point to the aesthetic of simplicity prevalent in fluxus works.

Artists at best are philosophically productive, and I look for meaning in their works through a contextual network consisting of: other works within their oeuvre, art from their peers/predecessors, and the socio-political framework they were created within. One of my favorite Ono pieces is titled "Mending Piece" which I first viewed a few years ago in the Mori Art Museum of Tokyo. This work is a small installation consisting of a china hutch, table, and a large pile of broken shattered plates. On the day I visited, three performers were seated at the table carefully placing ever smaller shards on top of other pieces with ikebana-like precision, bundling them up then returning them to the china hutch. Deeply moved by the domestic and yet universal implications of this piece, I have taken a particular interest in works which point towards a philosophical practice of constant care in a world of tides. Interestingly, within Maciunas' Fluxus Manifesto is the imperative to "promote a revolutionary flood and tide in art," thus embracing both creative and destructive forces occurring simultaneously. With this in mind, my performance was analogous to a small undertow, pulling the water back (temporarily) to reveal what lies beneath.

While Darling interprets Ono's "Piece to Hammer a Nail" in a purely additive sense, I have added, in the abstract. It is my opinion that I did not "rob those many people who had interacted with the work" as all contents I had removed were placed in the same storage location with the errant pieces that fall from the wall.

You are indeed correct that participatory works are conduits for surprising outcomes, put another way, the artist may conceive of the outcome but has relinquished control of it. Regrettably, neither you nor Darling saw my addition within your perceived (delimited) potentiality for the piece - an oversight or an underestimate?

Yours,
Amanda Mae
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Posted by amanda mae on September 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM
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I've been pondering this kind of thing for over 10 years, also originally sparked by a Yoko Ono retrospective. I decided to finally write about it.

"Please don't touch the (touchable) art."
http://www.arthereandnow.com/2009/10/ple…
Posted by TroutMonfalco http://www.ArtHereAndNow.com on October 25, 2009 at 11:48 AM

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