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Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Cyclist Critically Injured in Downtown Collision

Posted by on Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:43 AM

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A cyclist sustained massive head injuries in a collision with a Lexus in downtown Seattle last night, and police have apparently already absolved the driver.

At about 4:40 p.m., police say, a driver was traveling southbound through the intersection at 5th Avenue and Olive Street when the Lexus collided with a male cyclist. Police haven't indicated which direction the cyclist was traveling.

Medics arrived on scene and transported the cyclist to Harborview with life-threatening head injuries. Even though the incident is still under investigation, police are already blaming the cyclist. A post on SPD's blog about the incident notes that "It is possible that the bicyclist may have proceeded through a red light without yielding."

 

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Baconcat 1
That's a lie! Cyclists in this city obey the proper laws.

Red lights are draconian and of no use to cyclists, anyway. Do they look like cars? No. A cyclist is far more responsible than someone driving a 2 ton death machine, they can stop faster and are far more maneuverable. It's stupid to pin this on the cyclist.
Posted by Baconcat on August 25, 2009 at 10:48 AM · Report this
Fnarf 3
LOOK at that intersection. Look how wide it is, how much lane there is in every direction, how confusing the lanes and angles are. This kind of intersection is terrifying for cyclists (and plenty of cars), and they're everywhere in this city.

Every day I drive on Stone Way and East Green Lake Way, and both of those streets have added bike lanes that require automobiles to cross the bike lane in order to get into the turn lane. Our streets are planned for mayhem.

I'll let the rest of you argue about whether cars or bicycles, drivers or cyclists, are more evil. I just hope people can get where they're going safely. It's hard in this city.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on August 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM · Report this
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There were eye-witnesses to this accident (which you failed to mention) who all said the cyclist ran a red light. Just because he's a bicyclist doesn't mean he's automatically innocent of blame.
Posted by Justy on August 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM · Report this
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Solution: Make it legal for cyclists to run red lights, as some people here have advocated. Then it'd be the evil driver's fault for pulling out in front of the cyclist! Problem solved.
Posted by Orv on August 25, 2009 at 10:55 AM · Report this
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@2—because either way, someone (probably) ran a light.
Posted by Jonah Spangenthal-Lee on August 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM · Report this
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@3 Which makes stopping at red lights even more of a good idea.
Posted by giffy on August 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM · Report this
FreudianShrimp 8
Okay, the automobile was a Lexus, but what make and model was the bike?
Posted by FreudianShrimp on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM · Report this
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A poor decision with tragic consequences. I mean we all make bad choices all the time, and sometimes luck is just not on your side.

I feel bad for both the driver, who is probably quite shaken up, and the cyclist who has to suffer pretty horribly for a bad decision.
Posted by giffy on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM · Report this
michael strangeways 10
it's a little amusing that you're being biased as you report on the police allegedly being biased...

a little.
Posted by michael strangeways http://www.seattlegayscene.com/ on August 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM · Report this
Reality Check 12
@1 FTW

@4 FTW pointing out the Stranger's shoddy reporting of stories with key portions omitted in order to present a skewed story.

Grow up.
Posted by Reality Check http://www.nraila.org on August 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM · Report this
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@8: Real Seattle hipsters don't ride bikes with identifiable makes and models. They ride chrome track bikes with no brakes.
Posted by Orv on August 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM · Report this
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LEXUS ! LEXUS! LEXUS!

Come on Slog, why are you hiding the neighborhood of the driver! I bet he lives in Bellevue or Medina!
Posted by PC on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM · Report this
Jason Josephes 15
We should just outlaw accidents. Then they would all go away.
Posted by Jason Josephes http://www.myspace.com/bluemoonseattle on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM · Report this
FreudianShrimp 16
I wonder if either the bicyclist or the Lexus driver was texting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGE8LzRay…
Posted by FreudianShrimp on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM · Report this
Keister Button 19
One male cyclist I saw yesterday went through two red lights without yielding. I thought cyclists felt more entitled than equally or more green pedestrians, and thus run red lights? I have a two-wheeler but don't run red lights. Maybe I don't trust my health insurance to cover my bills, though.
Posted by Keister Button on August 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM · Report this
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@8, @13: Actually, I rode by the intersection less than an hour later, the bike was still leaned up against a monorail pylon and the lexus was still in the intersection, and I can report it was a red fixed/SS with chrome bullhorns, although yes, I think the model name had been removed from the frame, hah (need to be able to laugh about something... right?). It was interesting, but I noted the bike itself didn't have much damage; it barely seemed scratched. Based on the lexus being pointed south on 5th, I'd strongly bet the cyclist was headed east on Olive, coming down the hill and was hit from the left with the Lexus coming off of 5th or possibly westlake (although the lane the car was in strongly hinted 5th). I was in a rush to meet friends but stopped enough to verify it was a bike accident with one of the cops, who when I asked if "the guy's ok?" simply and grimly shook his head "no". Terrifying.
Posted by Juris on August 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM · Report this
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@20 I was thinking about the lack of damage thing and if the car was trying to stop they may not have hit the bike hard enough to do major damage, but hard enough to knock the guy off. I would think at that time of day the car could not have been going much more than 30. If the driver saw the cyclist coming though the intersection they may have slammed on their brakes but not in time stop.

If he wasn't wearing a helmet even a short fall could have done major damage if he happened to hit is head wrong.

Posted by giffy on August 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM · Report this
TheMisanthrope 22
...And another one bites the dust.

Some bikers are really good. Others, like the ones who wear all black while having a dim headlight and riding their bike at 11pm, need to die.
Posted by TheMisanthrope on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM · Report this
Mittens Schrodinger 23
Saying "It is possible that the bicyclist may have proceeded through a red light without yielding", based on eyewitness accounts, is hardly blaming the cyclist. It is simply offering a "possible" explanation backed up by some evidence. Maybe you should pull the spandex back over whatever cyclist's ass you're currently kissing and act like a non-biased reporter.
Posted by Mittens Schrodinger on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM · Report this
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When I walk across a street against the light, I know full well I could get hit by a car for ignoring the laws of the road, and I take that chance. I sure hope this cyclist felt the same way- because this time, it cost him dearly.

Cyclists- stop at stoplights. It's the law, and it's there to save your life.
Posted by UNPAID COMMENTER on August 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM · Report this
Soupytwist 26
@15 - Now that's a policy I can support!
Posted by Soupytwist http://twitter.com/katherinesmith on August 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM · Report this
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@22: Yeah. My dad *hates* it when he's turning the corner on my street -- at or below the speed limit -- and there's some guy/girl barrelling towards him in the wrong direction, at full speed. It's usually someone who also isn't wearing a helmet *and* doesn't bother having any lights or reflective stickers.

Dear bicyclists who don't: Please, please bike with traffic. If you insist on going in the wrong direction for whatever reason, please at least go slowly at points in the road where drivers' vision will clearly be impaired or limited.

It's seriously dangerous and I'm terrified my father -- who has a spotless record in 30 years -- will kill someone one day through no fault of his own. He doesn't deserve that.
Posted by Gloria on August 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM · Report this
derrickito 28
last night i was riding to fremont with no hands, texting the entire way. i think i ran 3 red lights.

i just ate a sandwich bigger than my head.
Posted by derrickito on August 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM · Report this
Geni 29
Having been a cyclist most of my life, I was horrified to nearly flatten one the other day. I was driving along, looking for a particular address. I needed to make a right turn across the bike lane. I signaled, slowed, looked...and STILL a cyclist came FLYING down the lane fast enough to zip in front of me while I was in mid-turn. My car is tiny, but the physics are still against you, Mr. Spandex; it's incumbent on you to ASSUME all cars are trying to kill you and ride accordingly.
Posted by Geni on August 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM · Report this
Westlake, son! 30
No helmet? The cyclist was probably trying to promote banning them as a final act of cycling greenism.

http://adrianshort.co.uk/2009/08/24/456/
Posted by Westlake, son! on August 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 32
I hear the bicyclists in Yakima hunt down the car and truck drivers that attack them.

Maybe bicyclists should carry?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM · Report this
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I get around Seattle by bicycle (I sold my car for beer money to a co-worker who needed it more), and I really like what someone once said on Point83's forums (paraphrasing):

"If I run a red light, I expect there to be another vehicle running the green light."

Running red lights without at least stopping to look first is asking for it. Doing it without a helmet and at a 5-way intersection in the core of a major city is just a special kind of stupid.
Posted by Lilting Missive on August 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM · Report this
Badger 34
I've seen at least 5 cyclists run red lights over the past couple of weeks. Usually in the U-District - what the hell is wrong with people? I got run over by an SUV two weeks ago when I was in an intersection and SHE ran the red light. People, in general, need to pay more attention, regardless of what they are riding/driving.
Posted by Badger on August 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM · Report this
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If the cyclist was at fault and I were the driver, you can bet I'd be suing his ass (or his estate) for any damage to my vehicle, the same I'd do if it had been another car.
Posted by Mason on August 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 36
@35 - you know very little about economics then. Most people who have cars have insurance (car,medical,dental,house) and have property/assets. Most people who are cyclists lack one or more of those items (usually most of them). Suing does you no good when there are no assets to seize, especially since most judgments are never enforced in the USA.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 25, 2009 at 12:41 PM · Report this
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@36 I have a bike, which I ride often on the streets, and I also have a car and a house and other assets. If I caused an accident while riding my bike, I would fully expect to be held responsible for the damages I caused. Being on two wheels does not excuse you from liability.
Posted by Mason on August 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM · Report this
lunasea 39
Helmet!

If you chose to risk you life by not wearing a helmet, and not obeying traffic rules when you're on the city streets, then that's what you get.

Also, won't I feel like a jackass if it is determined that the cyclist was, indeed, wearing a helmet & obeying traffic laws. (I doubt that will happen.)
Posted by lunasea on August 25, 2009 at 1:04 PM · Report this
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Agreed: Helmets, everyone, helmets!

No one ever said they looked cool, and yes it's somewhat less convenient when one must then carry it into the bar or wherever. But I'd rather look stupid with a helmet than injured—or worse—with a cracked open skull.

Everyone, slow down and enjoy your bikes and cars. Don't abuse them.
Posted by mitten on August 25, 2009 at 1:11 PM · Report this
Rotten666 42
I don't feel bad for this guy.
Posted by Rotten666 on August 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM · Report this
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Don't know who's at fault, but I know this is the reason that I don't ride my bike nearly as much as I'd like. It's scary out there.

I love the pacific northwest for many reasons but transportation is not one of them. Too many apathetic fat-ass liberals cruising around in their cars still.
Posted by sall on August 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM · Report this
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As much as I would want to agree, cyclists don't always follow road laws. I have personally come dangerously close to cyclists because they almost never stop at the stop sign.
Posted by Ask-Amy http://hintcafe.com/askamy on August 25, 2009 at 2:45 PM · Report this
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LOOK at that intersection. Look how wide it is, how much lane there is in every direction, how confusing the lanes and angles are. This kind of intersection is terrifying for cyclists (and plenty of cars), and they're everywhere in this city.


If you think a red light or a 5 way intersection is too confusing for comfort, you probably shouldn't be operating a vehicle on the road.
Posted by Gomez http://misterstevengomez.com on August 25, 2009 at 2:51 PM · Report this
Fifty-Two-Eighty 47
If this stupid cyclist had ridden in front of a light rail train and gotten hit, we'd all be laughing our asses off at him for being such a dumbass.

Same net result.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on August 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM · Report this
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@42: psychopath.
Posted by doceb on August 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 49
It's time to declare a War on Cars.

Hey, they kill and endanger more American citizens than MJ does, so it makes just as much sense ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 25, 2009 at 2:58 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 50
@37 - read what I said, not what you wanted me to say. It's still true.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM · Report this
Way2Blue4You 51
it was the cyclist's fault. he ran a red light, and that has now been conclusively determined. He brought this on himself, and I feel for the driver of the car who did absolutely nothing wrong and now has sue for the damages to his car.
Posted by Way2Blue4You on August 25, 2009 at 3:14 PM · Report this
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@2 It is a crime to run a red light.
Posted by Rightwrong on August 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM · Report this
Rotten666 55
@48 You can call me crazy all you want, but I don't feel bad for someone who cruises through red lights on a busy intersection. Why should I care when this person obviously had no regard for their own personal safety and the safety of the people around him?

Every day tragic accidents befall good people through no fault of their own. I really can't bother to feel for someone who causes their own calamity.

Posted by Rotten666 on August 25, 2009 at 3:59 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 56
@54 - that's why we walk through them in the U Dist.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM · Report this
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@55: "Why should I care when this person obviously had no regard for their own personal safety and the safety of the people around him?"

How about "human compassion?"

You're crazy because you thank that caring/empathy is a zero-sum game, which means you don't really understand it at all in the first place.
Posted by doceb on August 25, 2009 at 4:27 PM · Report this
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You ride a bike, you're eventually going to come off your bike, so helmets are the clearest sort of life insurance. Head injuries are beyond bad news. Helmets are sexy to me.
Posted by nightswim on August 25, 2009 at 4:41 PM · Report this
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@55- Pathetic. I wonder if you'd have the same response if it was YOUR loved one who was critically injured, even IF it was their fault. Somehow I seriously doubt it. It's easy to take that stance when you don't know the person.

@57- well put:)
Posted by bearhugs on August 26, 2009 at 8:45 AM · Report this
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@everyone
everyone that is flaming the cyclist for running the red light are complete idiots. Yes he may have ran the light but why flame someone for making a mistake. im sure all of you have broken the law at least once. Everyone makes mistakes and some unfortunately have tragic outcomes.
The cyclist I have known for 25 years now and may actually not make it through this. Think about the family and friends before you are so F*@#ing quick to reprimand. I pray with all my heart he survives this. The damage done to the ohh so great Lexus is nothing compared to losing a life.
@20 @57 @60 your about the only decent one here.
Posted by Rskyy on August 26, 2009 at 9:35 AM · Report this
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I am with you 100% Rskyy. (I posted #53 & #60)I am disgusted at the fact that so many people can be so heartless and make more of a stink about damage done to a lexus than to a human being. He's a great person and he and his family deserve compassion and POSITIVE thoughts. We are all praying for him and hope that he comes through with a full recovery. He and his family & friends will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by bearhugs on August 26, 2009 at 1:50 PM · Report this
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Since I see this conversation going the same stupid, emotionally fallacious direction that these conversations about horrible cyclist accidents seem to go every single time, I'll state the following as simply as possible.

Everyone makes mistakes.

Some mistakes are more dangerously dumb than others.

Smart people do make dumb mistakes.

This cyclist is probably not a bad person.

He did, however, make a horrible, possibly stupid mistake. Vehicles were stopped, his street had a red light, and even if he didn't see the latter, he definitely saw the former, and he should have taken the visual cues therefrom and slowed down or stopped.

Hopefully, he lives and takes this lesson with him through the rest of his days, if he can get back on a bicycle again.

Let's not let defensive anger in sympathy (ironic in itself) distract from the fact that we could all learn something positive and constructive from this horrible accident.

Observe traffic signals, cyclists. Pay attention to stopped vehicles. They're probably stopped for a good reason.
Posted by Gomez http://misterstevengomez.com on August 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM · Report this
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@63
Thank you so much for your support and thoughts on this.

@66
The cyclist has not improved. The reason there is no dmg done to the bike is because he tried to bail off it and save himself. however he hit the rear tire of the vehicle. it doesnt matter if there was a helmet on or not. they only protect up to a certain degree of impact.
Posted by Rskyy on August 27, 2009 at 9:11 AM · Report this
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@ 67 Regardless of running red light or helmet wearing, I hope the cyclist pulls through, having been severely hurt in a (me) bike- (them) motor vehicle accident myself.

Although rapid improvement in his condition would be welcome, don't get discouraged. A friend of mine in an eerily-similar accident to mine (motor vehicle turning left fails to yield to cyclist going straight) was in very poor shape for months and has made a dramatic recovery. Expect a miracle!

Those of you that prefer can go back to your regularly-scheduled alternate flaming of cars and bikes.
Posted by the old galoot on August 27, 2009 at 11:16 AM · Report this
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he is still in a coma-like state. he is breathing on his own which is good. F-U to all you people talking shit about someone who could die!

maybe we should create seperated bike-lanes so cars and bikes don't have to cross paths, like they do in many European countries. biking to work should be applauded and commonplace. it reduces your carbon footprint and is more healthy.
Posted by shantz on September 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM · Report this

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