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Friday, August 21, 2009

And It Is Done

Posted by on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Mexico has decriminalized the possession of drugs—pretty much all of them:

Mexico enacted a controversial law on Thursday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs while encouraging government-financed treatment for drug dependency free of charge.

The law sets out maximum “personal use” amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities will no longer face criminal prosecution; the law goes into effect on Friday.

The laws of physics, nature, and capitalism are all completely different across the border: that is what the drug czar will tell us when people suggest we follow Mexico's lead. But Mexico will be no worse off for decriminalizing drugs. Buses will run, families will grow, students will go to school. Things may even be better in Mexico; that's what has happened in other countries. In Portugal, which decriminalized drugs in 2001, "illegal drug use among teens in Portugal declined and rates of new HIV infections caused by sharing of dirty needles dropped, while the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled," Time Magazine reported in April.

So some Americans will audaciously point to Mexico—which is not across the ocean, but a few blocks from some metropolitan centers in the US—as an example of better laws that we can enact here. But our federal government will say it's impossible. They'll stick to the old hackneyed talking points that changing the laws would encourage drug use among young people and wreak havoc on society. Legalization won't be in their vocabulary, even when it's within eyesight.

Any hope for sensible drug policy isn't at the national level (and it never has been), it's at the state level, with folks like the lawmakers who wrote an op-ed today calling to decriminalize marijuana in Washington or voters passing an initiative. Our best hope is that the Obama Administration will stay out of it.

In the meantime, have fun vacationing in Mexico.

Tip from Chris

 

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Urgutha Forka 1
We can't quit the war on drugs now, not when we're so close to winning
Posted by Urgutha Forka on August 21, 2009 at 12:28 PM
devilsmoke 2
"In the meantime, have fun vacationing in Mexico."

Regardless of their legality, the last thing in the world I want to try when I'm in Mexico is to buy drugs. That sounds like just asking to get your ass mugged.
Posted by devilsmoke on August 21, 2009 at 12:40 PM
COMTE 3
@2:

Are you kidding me? In six months and you'll probably be buy weed at any neighborhood Gigante or El Tigre.
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on August 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM
4
I guess everything will be mas bueno in Mexico now, forever!
Posted by Glad they solved all the problems on August 21, 2009 at 1:03 PM
michael strangeways 5
it's getting to be sort of depressing to live in a country that is supposed to be "The Greatest Country On Earth, EVUH!" yet can't seem to make any progressive headway on much of anything except mass consumerism and intolerance...you know you're in trouble when countries that are naively stigmatized as Third World hellholes start passing more progressive legislation than your own.
Posted by michael strangeways http://www.seattlegayscene.com/ on August 21, 2009 at 1:10 PM
6
Full legalization is really the only answer, especially to Mexico's problems. Decriminalization only allows easier access and less penalties for drug possession but the drugs are still being sold by the cartels. They need full legalization so that other companies, and individuals, can get into the market and take market share away from the cartels. When you can walk into a grocery store to buy drugs you don't have to go to the street dealer.
Posted by Root on August 21, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Posted by mason_bryant on August 21, 2009 at 1:17 PM
8
Root @6 nails it.

Decriminalization is a baby step.
Posted by dwight moody on August 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Will in Seattle 9
So, under NAFTA, doesn't that mean when 2 of 3 nations choose something, by default it's legal in all 3?

(laughs while the baby lawyers go all scurrying to reread the actual text of the actual document)
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Dr_Awesome 10
No, no, no. All the conservatives, neocons, wingnuts, and other assorted douchebags will now point to all the massive problems of corruption and drug cartel crime in Mexico, and tell us that "it's because Mexico legalized (shudder!) drugs!"

Don't doubt for a second that the right-wing nuts will spin this as a negative; and their base, with its need to have a moral scapegoat to cover their own failings, will buy it hook, line, and sinker. You can almost hear it now: "Them Mexicans legalized *drugs*! And look what it did to them, it destroyed their country!"
Posted by Dr_Awesome on August 21, 2009 at 2:10 PM
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@10: That occurred to me, although in the opposite direction. I thought, "Isn't this a formality? The drug cartels already run the country anyway."
Posted by Orv on August 21, 2009 at 3:12 PM
12
Yeah, this'll end that whole narcoterrorista thing in one day. Actually, it might lead to more of that drug-lord-drug-war action on this side of the border.
Posted by El Cabong on August 21, 2009 at 3:21 PM
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Michael Strangeways @ 5: "you know you're in trouble when countries that are naively stigmatized as Third World hellholes start passing more progressive legislation than your own."

No lie. Several years ago I was at an international conference and was cornered by some Iranian health officials who wanted to know why the US was so completely fucked up on the issue of harm reduction and drug policy reform! They said that our intransigence on the issue was making it very difficult for folks in other country to achieve meaningful reform.

You know you're fucked when Iranians tell you you're too conservative.
Posted by gnossos on August 21, 2009 at 3:41 PM
undead ayn rand 14
"Yeah, this'll end that whole narcoterrorista thing in one day. "

Awesome, keep up the arguments against statements nobody's been making. You might win one yet!

"Actually, it might lead to more of that drug-lord-drug-war action on this side of the border."

Or it might not.
Posted by undead ayn rand on August 21, 2009 at 3:49 PM
undead ayn rand 15
"So, under NAFTA, doesn't that mean when 2 of 3 nations choose something, by default it's legal in all 3?

(laughs while the baby lawyers go all scurrying to reread the actual text of the actual document) "

The Ron Paulentologists and Alex Jones obsessives are as much self-ascribed experts on all NAFTA-related materials as they are on the US constitution.
Posted by undead ayn rand on August 21, 2009 at 3:52 PM
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@14: Yeah, my guess is it'll make no difference at all in the large-scale drug trade, since it only decriminalizes small amounts. At best it would let police avoid wasting resources on small-time possession cases, but I don't think the Mexican police force is effective enough for that to matter.
Posted by Orv on August 21, 2009 at 4:00 PM
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Wait wait wait. You mean drugs *used* to be illegal in Mexico? I guess nobody told Tijuana.
Posted by Monty on August 21, 2009 at 6:49 PM
18
"In Portugal, which decriminalized drugs in 2001, illegal drug use among teens in Portugal declined"

If drugs were decriminalized how could there be ANY illegal drug use among teens?
It's all legal now.
Posted by Were you this Stupid before Pot burned your Brain Out? on August 21, 2009 at 9:06 PM
19
"In Portugal, which decriminalized drugs in 2001 ... the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled"

Twice as many addicts is good?
Posted by Really? For Real?? on August 21, 2009 at 9:08 PM
20
"In Portugal, which decriminalized drugs in 2001... rates of new HIV infections caused by sharing of dirty needles dropped"

Not to fear-
the homos will pick up the slack...
Posted by ...they are 53% of all new AIDS cases but can do much more!! on August 21, 2009 at 9:10 PM
21
goddamnit. i was days away from moving to Oaxaca to start a heroin ring. now i'll have to threaten or blackmail the local pharmacist for a cut.
Posted by mr z on August 22, 2009 at 1:54 AM
undead ayn rand 22
"Twice as many addicts is good?
Posted by Really? For Real??"

No, you subhuman moron, decriminalization allows for a much better transition to recovery because the users, the real victims aren't having to do with all the societal costs of addiction. They can reveal their harmful lifestyle without fear of prosecution or further injury. This is more comparable to prostitutes who refuse to reveal rape for fear of being victimized again by law enforcement.

Again, people with your terrible understanding of statistics and social problems are why we still have the War On... pretty much everything going strong. If you can't educate yourself and take a basic statistics/logic class, stay out of things over your head.
Posted by undead ayn rand on August 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM

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