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Thursday, August 20, 2009

The Economist Slams Obama For "Incoherence" On Gay Rights

Posted by on Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM

Quack, quack:

Barack Obama tends to become incoherent when discussing gay rights. During the campaign he said he supported equal rights for gays but also that marriage should be “between a man and a woman”. He opposed both same-sex marriages and a law that bars them, California’s Proposition 8. He favoured repealing both “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, which keeps gays from serving openly in the armed forces, and the Defence of Marriage Act (DOMA), which created a federal definition of marriage. As president, however, he has done little. At a White House reception for gays in June, the most notable event was that a mobile phone started quacking. Gays might be excused for thinking their president was doing the same.

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A moment of clarity came on August 17th. Though the Justice Department continues to defend DOMA in court, it stated that the administration believes the law “is discriminatory, and supports its repeal.” The brief also rejected claims that the government has an interest in preventing gay marriage, writing that children raised by gay couples are as likely to be well adjusted as those raised by heterosexuals.

Advocates reacted cautiously. “It might seem obvious that denying same-sex married couples all the federal protections that other married couples get is discrimination,” said Matt Coles of the American Civil Liberties Union. “But having the federal government finally admit it is a promising sign.” Mr Obama may proceed in small steps. After the uproar over June’s [DOMA] brief he extended some benefits to same-sex partners of federal workers. Meanwhile, states are being bolder—Iowa, Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire have each authorised gay marriages within the past five months. Those hoping for action in Washington may have to wait until the White House quacker is a lame duck in 2013.

 

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1
2013 my ass. I should not have to vote for a president twice for him to live up to what he promised when I voted for him the first time.
Posted by Reg on August 20, 2009 at 8:40 AM
2
Does Slog apologize for shitty political endorsements?
Posted by How about War endorsements? on August 20, 2009 at 9:08 AM
josh 3
how about civil unions with full federal benefits for both same- and opposite-sex unions? let's really redefine marriage.
Posted by josh http://www.sciencevsromance.net on August 20, 2009 at 9:12 AM
D310 4
...well any hope of this matter being resolved is at the very least on hold unless or until Obama can get his healthcare passed.

You'rs Truly,

-Don't hold your breath
Posted by D310 on August 20, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Urgutha Forka 5
@3,
And that's really the best solution overall; no "religious institution" entangled with government benefits and responsibilities at all.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't fly. Big Religion would tell people their marriages were being taken away (even though marriage wouldn't be taken away, it simply wouldn't have state benefits anymore) and could easily scare enough regular people who don't care about politics to vote to "protect their marriage from disappearing." Sort of what Big Religion is doing now, but it's harder for them to fight a minority who wants to get married like everyone else than it is to fight a minority that wants to make marriage actually irrelavent in terms of benefits and replaced by civil unions. Even though the benefits would remain the same for civil unioners, many people (not me, but many others) have strong emotional bonds to the word "marriage."
Posted by Urgutha Forka on August 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM
6
Hye guyz lets all get so pissed at obama that we neuter his ability to change the shit we want to change. LOZLZZL WE'RE OSM
Posted by Doldoooo on August 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM
7
only 6 posts
even slog is sick of hearing about it
Posted by barf on August 20, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Will in Seattle 8
Nobody cares what the Brits think, only the Scots
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on August 20, 2009 at 11:30 AM
yucca flower 9
If you're pissed about how the Democrats are doing things, complain! Loud and often. You know how to contact the president and congress. Instead of preaching to the choir, get out there and hold the Blue Dogs feet to the fire.
Posted by yucca flower on August 20, 2009 at 8:18 PM
10
I always figured that the DOMA defense was a straw-man job done by people hoping a judge would see their arguments as bigoted and stupid. I mean, stuck in a situation of defending something I loathed, that's what I would have done.
Posted by sbeath on August 21, 2009 at 6:59 AM
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Obama won't be a lame duck in 2013. At the rate he is going, with the polls showing a poor reality, he will be a one-term president.

All the "wait-and-see" about what we get by the end of his administration should be focused on a 2012 conclusion. If the LGBT community waits until his second term to get ANY progress, we may be looking to a ghost for the promise-of-a-hope of a something.
Posted by RickINSF http://www.ricx1.com on August 21, 2009 at 8:51 AM
cheerio 12
My willingness to have Obama in a second term of office hinges on the quality of his opponent(s). Being an incumbent, his opponents will likely favor the gays less than he does... an interesting predicament.
Posted by cheerio on August 22, 2009 at 8:03 PM

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