Monday, August 10, 2009
Crime / ??!! / Life Your Daily Poll Dance: I Feel Dirty Edition
Posted by David Schmader on Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:24 AM
As Florida Today reports, the saga began when a Florida woman placed an ad on Craigslist offering child-care services. Before long, a man responded and asked if the woman knew any special-needs caregivers, as he had a developmentally disabled brother in need of day care. Before long, the woman was taking care of the caller's 40-year-old brother, who for four months spent his days watching cartoons and playing video games at the woman's house, where she would bottle-feed him and change his diapers.
Unfortunately, as the woman eventually found out, the caller and the "disabled" brother were one in the same—a 40-year-old "adult baby"/diaper fetishist that Florida Today is not identifying because he hasn't been charged with anything. "It's a weird case," said Sheriff's Lt. Tod Goodyear to FT. "It's really on a borderline of possibly being a fraud. He is perpetrating something there because he's doing it under a false pretense."
Meanwhile, the alleged victim is hoping to throw the book at her would-be passive molester: "I consented to change his diapers, but I legitimately thought this man needed help," she said to FT. "How can that not be a crime for him to come into my house and expose himself?"
Florida authorities are trying to figure it out. In the meantime:
What's your take on the adult-baby-poses-as-a-disabled-patient brouhaha?
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Send his ass to jail, he'll surely find a daddy to take care of him for good.
That's the best remedy for all these "adult baby" nut cases, just give em some TLC with Bubba and you'll see them begging to be taken out of those diapers. LOL
That's the best remedy for all these "adult baby" nut cases, just give em some TLC with Bubba and you'll see them begging to be taken out of those diapers. LOL
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How did he get himself to her house? Certainly a disabled baby-equivalent adult doesn't drive. Who wrote the child-care checks? Supplied his diapers? Must have been a helluva friend to help him out with this Feel Dirty deception.
6
I don't know that a response from the law is appropriate or necessary. It was shitty but not necessarily illegal, and the response from her should be, in turn, shitty to him but not necessarily invoke the law.
If I were her, I would go Smear Campaign. Post his full name and photo on every Florida adult-special-care forum AND every adult-baby forum AND all over Craigslist and every other similar site, with a "This person took despicable advantage of a homecare worker who thought she was providing a necessary service. Never work with him--not you home-care workers, and not you people looking to be the mommy or daddy of an adult-baby." And make sure that those results are the first thing that comes up any time his name is Googled.
If I were her, I would go Smear Campaign. Post his full name and photo on every Florida adult-special-care forum AND every adult-baby forum AND all over Craigslist and every other similar site, with a "This person took despicable advantage of a homecare worker who thought she was providing a necessary service. Never work with him--not you home-care workers, and not you people looking to be the mommy or daddy of an adult-baby." And make sure that those results are the first thing that comes up any time his name is Googled.
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not good, not really all that bad, either. Should definitely not be prosecuted on some trumped-up, bullshit charge.
Anyone supporting criminal charges in this is an idiot.
Anyone supporting criminal charges in this is an idiot.
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5: Fascinating details on the logistics of the scam and how it all fell apart in the linked story...
9
She should have spiked his bottle with a heavy laxitive, and then left him to clean up his own mess.
10
What surprise -- Loveschild finds prison rape hilarious. LOL, indeed. You're so full of hate and misery, darlin', it's plain to see.
I think this guy could be pretty easily prosecuted for sex crime or at least fraud. I'm curious, though, as to how this went down. It was at her place; did the guy just walk up to the door and ring the bell? No meeting with the caretaker, going over his requirements or whatever? That doesn't sound like any extreme special-needs case I've ever heard of.
I think this guy could be pretty easily prosecuted for sex crime or at least fraud. I'm curious, though, as to how this went down. It was at her place; did the guy just walk up to the door and ring the bell? No meeting with the caretaker, going over his requirements or whatever? That doesn't sound like any extreme special-needs case I've ever heard of.
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So it didn't raise a red flag that this guy (or one of his relatives) never made the effort to meet the caregiver in person and personally take a look at her home environment before just letting his disabled "brother" start wandering over there every day for care?
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fraud? what are the damages, kim?
you would be prosecuting/suing over a damage-less action. There is no harm here. She got paid to do a job that she was told to do; this is not like buying a computer on eBay and getting a picture of a computer.
you would be prosecuting/suing over a damage-less action. There is no harm here. She got paid to do a job that she was told to do; this is not like buying a computer on eBay and getting a picture of a computer.
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Why doesn't she just take him to civil court? She'd almost certainly win. And like someone else here said, And, as @6 suggested, public shaming can sometimes go a long way, depending on the person in question.
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@14: I think you may have discovered a "Judge Judy" (or whoever, how many "Judge" shows are there now?) episode I would actually watch.
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the concept of sexual liberation on Slog just collapsed under all the comments of the main stream Vanilla Sex posts here
No damage, except some one was stupid
The caregiver should have played along and doubled her rates - or - more, that is the spirit of commerce in America
I don't quite get this fetish, but, among the fetish list it is really very benign compared to really bad S and M
No pain or injury with whips, fists, slaps, etc
You all are rubes wandering in the sexual desert ... or more simply, conformists
No damage, except some one was stupid
The caregiver should have played along and doubled her rates - or - more, that is the spirit of commerce in America
I don't quite get this fetish, but, among the fetish list it is really very benign compared to really bad S and M
No pain or injury with whips, fists, slaps, etc
You all are rubes wandering in the sexual desert ... or more simply, conformists
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I wonder if some legal argument could be made that the cost of this service if he had gone to a professional "adult baby caretaker" (i.e., a sex worker) would have been, say, 4-5 times what he paid her. He defrauded her into believing she was providing one service (care of a special needs adult), when really she was providing another, much more valuable service (a type of sex work). So, in that sense, the "damages" would be the difference between the value/cost of the service she actually provided vs. the service he represented that she would be providing.
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Julie - no.
Let's say that you are hired to give sponge baths to person X. It makes no difference whether it is out of necessity or because person X has a sponge bath fetish. You agreed to do a job, and whether that gets person X off has no bearing on "fraud".
Let's say that you are hired to give sponge baths to person X. It makes no difference whether it is out of necessity or because person X has a sponge bath fetish. You agreed to do a job, and whether that gets person X off has no bearing on "fraud".
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#19 - ahhhh, but #18 is arguing the service wasn't the same. She was hired to perform service X, but was performing service Y. Then again, there's lots of random, everyday services that give dudes boners where the professional isn't being compensated for sex work, like massages, hair cuts, and 59 year-olds flying under the radar for a senior discount.
Really, I don't care what happens to this guy, but it's an interesting argument. I'm not sure justice would be done by putting this up to a jury, this guy's "peers" are probably few and far between on this matter.
Really, I don't care what happens to this guy, but it's an interesting argument. I'm not sure justice would be done by putting this up to a jury, this guy's "peers" are probably few and far between on this matter.
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This proves that not only is it possible to top someone non-consensually, but the reverse is also true. What this guy did was just as bad. He tricked someone into topping him for a role play scene. You don't have to be a top to be predatory.
Hey, remember that guy who was found shot my his mistress while wearing a full body latex suit or something like that? And the autoerotic asphyxiation deaths? The Stranger was rightfully put off by the mainstream press making all kinksters to look like dangerous, sick, fucked up perverts. Things appear different when it isn't something quite as "mainstream" within the kink community.
@4: There are nutcases and there are kinky people. Some people may be both, but one isn't a reason or cause for the other. I agree this guy deserves jail, but not because he's an AB/DL fetishist. There are enough people who want to send anyone to jail who doesn't have sex for any reason other than opposite sex married people to have children, thank you.
Hey, remember that guy who was found shot my his mistress while wearing a full body latex suit or something like that? And the autoerotic asphyxiation deaths? The Stranger was rightfully put off by the mainstream press making all kinksters to look like dangerous, sick, fucked up perverts. Things appear different when it isn't something quite as "mainstream" within the kink community.
@4: There are nutcases and there are kinky people. Some people may be both, but one isn't a reason or cause for the other. I agree this guy deserves jail, but not because he's an AB/DL fetishist. There are enough people who want to send anyone to jail who doesn't have sex for any reason other than opposite sex married people to have children, thank you.
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I'm wondering if a decision as to prosecute him for something (what, exactly?) might hinge on whether he got an erection or attempted to masturbate in front of her. If he's that much of a fetishist it's hard (heh) to imagine that this was not the case. Real adult developmentally disabled people get erections and attempt to masturbate; how is this different exactly from her point of view because he was calculatingly aware of what he was doing?
Re: the charge, how could it be indecent exposure if he's on her property (or she on his) consensually? Moreover, she probably did the disrobing, in taking his diaper off. Can it be some variety of assault even if he never laid a finger on her? Legal beagles, what's the verdict?!
FInally, he must be a trust-fund "baby" if he can afford to indulge himself this way for months on end.
Re: the charge, how could it be indecent exposure if he's on her property (or she on his) consensually? Moreover, she probably did the disrobing, in taking his diaper off. Can it be some variety of assault even if he never laid a finger on her? Legal beagles, what's the verdict?!
FInally, he must be a trust-fund "baby" if he can afford to indulge himself this way for months on end.
30
Rape? WTF? you people are nuts.
Indecent liberties doesn't make any sense either.
Why are you all so desperate to charge him with something? Use social sanctioning and leave the criminal justice system for REAL. CRIMES.
Indecent liberties doesn't make any sense either.
Why are you all so desperate to charge him with something? Use social sanctioning and leave the criminal justice system for REAL. CRIMES.
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@30 So, you think it's okay. If a woman is raped in her sleep, and only becomes aware of it later on, was there no crime?
32
ALERT. I was just informed by a friend that this story is VERY similar to an episode of Reno 911. holyfuckingshit.
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