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News & ArtsWednesday, August 5, 2009
Politics The Party of No Joy
Posted by Charles Mudede on Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:49 AM
In this world, the Obama era, there is no such thing as good news for the right. HuffPo reports:
Euna Lee and Laura Ling are safe at home and in the warm embrace of loved ones and it's hard to feel bad about this. But, since Bill Clinton has a hand in their release, someone's got to step up and naysay the effort, and predictably, that task has fallen to former UN ambassador and noted rage-walrus John Bolton, who says the "Clinton trip is a significant propaganda victory for North Korea, whether or not he carried an official message from President Obama."Everything is bad; no joy exists. Here positive and negative news are leveled. There is no distinction between the two. The positive is the same as negative. Good news is just more bad news.
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Imagine that, an artifact of the neoconservative movement desperately trying to remain relevant.
Fuck off bolton, your ideology failed miserably.
Fuck off bolton, your ideology failed miserably.
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bolton's half right: it was a propaganda victory for kim. he gets to play the merciful ruler for his subjects.
but outside NK, the rest of the planet still thinks he's a paranoid joke.
but outside NK, the rest of the planet still thinks he's a paranoid joke.
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Couldn't Bill have traded John Bolton for the people being held? Definitely on condition that he never be released?
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you girls don't get it.
Bolton is just going thru the kabuki theatre motions of Conservative Outrage.
It is part of keeping Obama bitchslapped in line.
Bolton is just going thru the kabuki theatre motions of Conservative Outrage.
It is part of keeping Obama bitchslapped in line.
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Good Morning Charles,
I believe former Pres. Bill Clinton is to be commended. Outstanding work. But, both Bolton and Huffpo are highly biased. They cancel each other out. That was to be expected.
I believe former Pres. Bill Clinton is to be commended. Outstanding work. But, both Bolton and Huffpo are highly biased. They cancel each other out. That was to be expected.
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You know, the left now says exactly the same shit about the right that the right said about the left during the Bush years. And I mean exactly the same shit. This post could be taken word-for-word from Powerline Blog or any of the other right-wing rags from the last 8 years.
Voters didn't reject Republicans because the conservative ideology is a failure anymore than the Soviet Union collapsed because "communism just doesn't work." Voters rejected Republicans because the current Republican leadership are a bunch of incompetent hacks.
But Bill Clinton is the one who signed our economy over to China, and Obama is continuing that legacy with a trickle-down economic stimulus plan, a half-a-loaf healthcare plan (which, in addition to being useless will, like AFDC, will give Republicans something to shoot at for the next 20 years), and a total failure of leadership on DADT, DOMA, etc.
Too bad the Stranger can't articulate a more progressive populist vision of what the Democratic party should be doing. Charles and Golob are the only people there who think outside the box economically, and Charles is a boring drunken clown, and Golob, though I love him, can't make his messages digestible. Surely Dan Savage could shape a progressive populist message but Dan, like most Stranger writers, is basically just a yuppie with a yuppie's priorities: his own political enfranchisement and short-term economic and social security.
It's a fucking tragedy, really.
Voters didn't reject Republicans because the conservative ideology is a failure anymore than the Soviet Union collapsed because "communism just doesn't work." Voters rejected Republicans because the current Republican leadership are a bunch of incompetent hacks.
But Bill Clinton is the one who signed our economy over to China, and Obama is continuing that legacy with a trickle-down economic stimulus plan, a half-a-loaf healthcare plan (which, in addition to being useless will, like AFDC, will give Republicans something to shoot at for the next 20 years), and a total failure of leadership on DADT, DOMA, etc.
Too bad the Stranger can't articulate a more progressive populist vision of what the Democratic party should be doing. Charles and Golob are the only people there who think outside the box economically, and Charles is a boring drunken clown, and Golob, though I love him, can't make his messages digestible. Surely Dan Savage could shape a progressive populist message but Dan, like most Stranger writers, is basically just a yuppie with a yuppie's priorities: his own political enfranchisement and short-term economic and social security.
It's a fucking tragedy, really.
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They also are attacking the cash-for-clunkers. The wing-nutters just cannot recognize success, and so they fear and lash out at what they find unfamiliar.
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They also are attacking the cash-for-clunkers. The wing-nutters just cannot recognize success, and so they fear and lash out at what they find unfamiliar.
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If this was a propaganda victory for North Korea, does Bolton think that having two Americans stuck in a labor camp is a propaganda victory for the United States?
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Simple fix. Just drop Bolton into the middle of North Korea and don't negotiate for his release. Let them to try him as a spy and send him off to do hard labor. It's a win-win. Unless Greenpeace gets involved on marine mammal cruelty grounds...
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What's with the simplistic either/or for news stories? Very few things in life are black and white, except for your world view, Charles.
Isn't it possible that this could be both a feel-good-happy-ending news story AND a well-played propaganda boon for everyone's favorite Dear Leader?
Will something of yours rupture if you try thinking beyond your safe, well-worn comfort zones?
Isn't it possible that this could be both a feel-good-happy-ending news story AND a well-played propaganda boon for everyone's favorite Dear Leader?
Will something of yours rupture if you try thinking beyond your safe, well-worn comfort zones?
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