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Wednesday, August 5, 2009

Savage Love Letter of the Day

Posted by on Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM

A couple months ago I sent you a simple email thanking you for doing what you do.

Today, the power of your voice hit home. As you know, an angry, sexually frustrated gunman went on a killing spree at a fitness center in Pittsburgh. Reading his online blog, I am struck by the similarity of his situation to that of the men you counseled in last week's column. Of course, the similarity ends with the attitude and resolution; Sodini did not reach out, the men who wrote to you did. But the simple fact that you are there, that you are available, and that you make sense in such a common, HUMAN way... thank you.

The reason this strikes so close to me is that my situation for years was very similar. Although I wasn't a virgin, I was "clogged up" and unable to get close to people physically and emotionally. I overcame my fears and hangups, and life is good now. But it wasn't easy. I was never as angry as the man who shot up the fitness center, but I was absolutely as lonely and isolated as he was, and as lonely as the men whose letters you answered last week. And maybe if I'd been alone another 14 years (I found my life partner at 34), I may have become that angry.

Middle-Aged Family Guy Who Worked Hard To Become That

Thank you for the note, MAFGWWHTBT, and thanks—er—for the link to Sodini's blog. It's not uplifting reading. It's never pretty when chronic sexual deprivation and a lifetime of romantic rejection slams into a narcissistic personality with sociopathic tendencies.

A woman I knew at college—an anti-violence activist, righteous and right-on—used to say that "testosterone is gasoline, porn the match." I disagree. Testosterone is gasoline—which isn't necessarily bad (gas makes things go)—but sexual frustration is the match. That doesn't mean that this tragedy could've been averted if only some woman out there had "taken one for the team" and settled down with Sodini, an asshole and a sociopath. The women who rejected him clearly saw him for what he was and were right to run in the other direction. But seeing sex workers, which I advised the guys in last week's column to do (amongst other things), might have taken the edge off Sodini's anger and kept it from curdling into a homicidal rage. If we, as a society, valued sex workers and sex work and regarded "paying for it" as a legitimate option for guys who would otherwise go without, perhaps this tragedy might have been averted.

Don't get me wrong: I wouldn't wish a client as sick as Sodini on any my sex working pals. The man was violent and dangerous and, again, the women who ran from him were obviously right to do so. But if Sodini had started seeing sex workers back in 1990—the last time he says he had sex—maybe he wouldn't have become quite so angry and sick and violent and dangerous.

 

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kristinbell 1
It is possible to live without sex and NOT become a homicidal maniac by the way. I'm just saying. The guy probably would have become a homicidal maniac no matter what. I don't know the whole story here, but I mean, there is always masturbation if he didn't want to go the sex worker route. AND sex products are improving all the time.
Posted by kristinbell http://kristinbell.org on August 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Reverse Polarity 2
Sure is is POSSIBLE to live without a sex life, IF that is an honest choice. Some people have a low sex drive, yadda yadda yadda. But if you DO want to have a sex life, but for whatever reason you think you can't, then sexual repression can really fuck you up. Masturbation, for most people, does not equal a fulfilling sex life; it is a distant second-place substitute for a sex life.
Posted by Reverse Polarity on August 5, 2009 at 9:42 AM
kristinbell 3
I don't know, I couldn't read the diary at the link, because it didn't work. Maybe the guy wanted human connection more than just sex. Being completely alone and without human connection can lead to bad things, but maybe he should have invested in a counselor rather than in a gym membership! Yah, masturbation isn't as good as sex, but can a back up of jizz really lead to a killing spree? Seems he had other "issues."
Posted by kristinbell http://kristinbell.org on August 5, 2009 at 9:59 AM
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If you want to read the diary and can't, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has a summary posted. Here is a link to that:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/pdf/20090…

The really creepy think is how rational he sounds in one entry and how full of rage he is in the next. The guy clearly had major issues that went beyond sex.
Posted by Sheryl on August 5, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 5
If I grabbed a gun and started shooting every time something didn't go my way in life, there would be a whole lot of dead people out there by now. I think this guy's problems may run a bit deeper.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on August 5, 2009 at 10:31 AM
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I think this is a nice email and yes, Dan does a lot of good with what he does, but there was something seriously wrong with that killer (obviously). I haven't read his blog, and I don't want to, but the guy had the bod and the face of a Greek god, there is zero chance that guy couldn't get one-off hookups. I think it must have been that he went after unattainable women or something like that--and sex workers wouldn't help that sort of situation at all.
Posted by Marrena on August 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM
NumberOne 7
@ 4 to hell with rational, that Nov 5th entry -the only one I have read so far- is fucking bizarre and disgusting.

Posted by NumberOne on August 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM
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I think this is a nice email and yes, Dan does a lot of good with what he does, but there was something seriously wrong with that killer (obviously). I haven't read his blog, and I don't want to, but the guy had the bod and the face of a Greek god, there is zero chance that guy couldn't get one-off hookups. I think it must have been that he went after unattainable women or something like that--and sex workers wouldn't help that sort of situation at all.
Posted by Marrena on August 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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I agree with those of you that said this guy's problems ran deeper than sex. Dan, as a sex advice columnist, tends to assume sex is at the root of all problems. I think it's just an indicator. Like, you don't have sex BECAUSE your relationship has gone totally south, not vise versa. Similarly, few people will fuck you if you're a psycho killer at heart. Going to see prostitutes would just be making the same sort of mistake that plagues Western medicine today: treating the symptoms instead of the problem.
Posted by Madeleine on August 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM
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@6, perhaps he just went for women that had good "creepy psycho" radar. It would be interesting to hear what his female coworkers would say about him. This wasn't about his lack of a sex life, this was about him feeling entitled to a sex life from the 30 million women in the world (his estimate) who either didn't know him or knew him and found him to be a creepy psycho and ergo, didn't want to have sex with him.

I suppose there is one lesson here to the guys whose letters were recently addressed by Dan. IIRC, those guys had weight problems that (correctly or not) they believed were the root of their problems socializing with women. This guy was in good shape and was good looking, but had problems socializing with women. That's fairly good evidence that it is what on the inside, not outside, that counts, or at least counts more.
Posted by Luckier on August 5, 2009 at 11:27 AM
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If only Dan Savage was there to counsel this guy, maybe he wouldn't have turned out the way he did. Do you even read what you write? As far as I'm concerned, you're the one with ego troubles. Get the fuck over yourself, dude.
Posted by Who knew you had to go to college to talk about cocks? on August 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM
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@7 absolutely.

But further on, there are entries where he just talks about lifting weights or walking on the treadmill, just like life is normal. Then he rages about the fact that 30 million women have rejected him. The man was seriously mentally ill. I can't believe he was able to keep it so hidden from family and coworkers.
Posted by Sheryl on August 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM
seandr 13
"testosterone is gasoline, porn the match."

It must be said - old school feminist theories about men are every bit as ignorant, sexist, and sexually repressed as the religious right's theories about women.
Posted by seandr on August 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM
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This dude was warped by religion. The last entry tells so much. "Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be juded BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them."

I wish more "Christians" would live by Christ's example of how to be.
Posted by Barbara on August 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 15
What I'd really like to know is why you fucking religious nut-jobs feel the need to turn every post on Slog into a discussion about Jebus.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on August 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM
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That's a quote from Sodini's blog 52. Him killing people was about Jebus.
Posted by Barbara on August 5, 2009 at 12:10 PM
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@13: Agreed. I still resent how much extremist feminists give the moderates a bad name.
Posted by Gloria on August 5, 2009 at 12:50 PM
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But if Sodini had started seeing sex workers back in 1990—the last time he says he had sex—maybe he wouldn't have become quite so angry and sick and violent and dangerous.


Or maybe he would have turned into the next Gary Ridgeway.
Posted by keshmeshi on August 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Vince 19
Sociopath is sociopath. He would have found a reason to kill.
He just used a convenient excuse, but it could have been any other reason. But I do agree that prostitution should be safe and legal.

Posted by Vince on August 5, 2009 at 1:10 PM
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Maybe Sodoni didn't realize he was gay.
Posted by JaniceT on August 5, 2009 at 2:06 PM
21
It's just a shame Dan didn't get to Ted Bundy in time.
Posted by Clarence on August 5, 2009 at 2:17 PM
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6 - "the guy had the bod and the face of a Greek god."

How do you know that? I saw one pic of him and he seemed good-looking, but are you being hyperbolic just to make a point? Plus, lots of Greek gods with crappy personalities don't get laid (and, of course, lots of them do get laid).
Posted by DJDeeJay on August 5, 2009 at 2:27 PM
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#13. Amen.

#15. I swear that my response to #13 isn't about Jeebus!
Posted by jade on August 5, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Sir Vic 24
@18. FTW
Posted by Sir Vic on August 5, 2009 at 3:06 PM
bobissimo 25
Counselling, Psychiatry, Mental Health Services, Behavioral Rehabilitation ... it would be nice if these things were all made readily available to every one. Sex workers are important, too, but more important is the resource to figure out how to deal with shitty circumstances and or one's own shitty predispositions. As it stands, churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, and other religious institutions are the primary resource for spiritual/existential distress, and those Abrahamic religions seem to keep turning out extremists these days.
Posted by bobissimo on August 5, 2009 at 9:20 PM
kim in portland 26
15:

Because we are "fucking religious nut-jobs". Isn't it obvious?
Posted by kim in portland http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/fast-paced_video_provides_a_fu.html on August 5, 2009 at 11:43 PM
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I think we should leave Jesus out of the picture .One could have said that Jesus died for our sins, your loneliness is the price to pay for that , suck it up and suffer with elegance, couldn't it? and the questions remains how could someone prepare for a life of loneliness and celibacy without turning into a wacko serial killer or suicidal ? what are the general accepted recommendations ? and should you have followed the above advices/recommendations and still be in square one what becomes of you?
Posted by chaya760 on August 6, 2009 at 1:47 AM
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"old school feminist theories about men are every bit as ignorant, sexist, and sexually repressed as the religious right's theories about women."

You have to realize that a lot of that has more to do with 2nd wave feminists having their words distorted and misunderstood due to misogynist fear that women would actually start listening to what they said.

Don't get me wrong...I disagree with a lot of what the likes of Steinem and Dworkin had to say, but plenty of what they said was smart and created the impetus for social change which we now take for granted.

Second wave feminism gave women the ability to be financially dependent, the right to choose, the power to divorce, and the right to not be raped by a husband, among other things. We forget that, I think, as we buy the fearful denunciations of the movement that, half the time, are based on misinformation and quotes that were never spoken.

And when you say "old school feminism," you really should be more specific: the suffragettes also fall into the "old school" category.
Posted by laurelgardner http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5877570 on August 6, 2009 at 8:10 AM
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@15 - looks to me like it was an anti-religious person who brought it up this time. Which is often the case.
Posted by laurelgardner http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5877570 on August 6, 2009 at 8:11 AM
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@28 - Well said.
Posted by lymerae on August 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM
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@19: But most sociopaths don't go on murder sprees, or even commit felonies at all. Sociopathy doesn't mean you have a drive to do horrible things; it just means that there's nothing holding you back if you get such a drive from somewhere else.
Posted by christopher on August 6, 2009 at 9:31 AM

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