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Friday, July 31, 2009

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Posted by on Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:55 PM

The Seattle Times posted an editor’s note this morning, correcting and removing the first three paragraphs of a June 24 story on the $25-per-employee “head tax”—used to fund pedestrian and bike street improvements—by reporter Emily Hefter.

The since-removed section (which can still be found in Google's cache):

Seattle's "head tax" costs Carl Hoeflick less than $1,000 a year — $25 annually for each of the employees at his Duwamish manufacturing company.

That's not a lot of money, but still the tax infuriates him. He sees it as a sign the city doesn't show small-business owners enough support.

"The amount is not significant, OK," said Hoeflick, whose company, Katskill Engineering, makes gaskets for vehicles. "But it is the idea of the city sticking it to us, having no clue and having no concern. ... It is an unnecessary burden on us."

As it turns out, Carl Hoeflick doesn’t exist. He is a fictional person, created by a Seattle Times commenter who called Hefter to bitch about the head tax, claiming to be a disgruntled business owner.

Last week, while I was researching the head tax, I called Hefter to try to find out more about Hoeflick. I couldn’t find any information on Hoeflick or his company Katskill Engineering in the phone book or on Google. I called the Department of Licensing, which had no record of Hoeflick or his company, and then called Hefter.

A week later, the Times issued this correction:

The article by Emily Heffter, published June 24 on Page B3, referred to a Carl Hoeflick, owner of a Duwamish-area manufacturing company called Katskill Engineering. After an inquiry from a reporter from The Stranger newspaper who was trying to reach Hoeflick, Times editors determined that neither that person nor his business exists.

Further research revealed that the person Heffter interviewed by telephone, and who initiated the contact, was in fact Edward Seeto of Seattle. Seeto is a frequent commenter on various Web sites, including seattletimes.com. He was the subject of a King County District Court anti-harassment order in 2005, an order sought by and granted to an official of the Seattle Monorail Project.

In a telephone call Thursday, Seeto said he had misrepresented himself to our reporter. He said he did so because "There are people in King County who would retaliate against me."

The Times erred seriously in not confirming the caller's identity before the story was published. We require that the identities of all sources be verified before publication.

As Erica has reported over at Publicola, the Times' editorial board has refused to meet with head tax supporters, and has taken a firm position against the tax.

While editorial boards and news content are supposed to be separate, it certainly is curious that the Times would fail to double check a source who calls in to provide quotes supporting the board's position.

 

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Will in Seattle 1
People who are anti-tax are normally unpatriotic.

Except for the plastic bag tax on the poor, which is a poor excuse for what we should do, a ban on plastic bags.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 31, 2009 at 2:03 PM
2
This whole thing reminds me a little of Joe the Plumber, where a single person is held up as representative of larger group views.

In both cases, the single person was proven to be dishonestly portrayed.
Posted by Ackham on July 31, 2009 at 2:09 PM
jnmend 3
I knew an owner who complained about it until he realized that only about five of his employees drove to work.

By it's nature, a flat-fee per-employee is going to hurt smaller companies more, because $25/head doesn't hurt as bad when your profit numbers get higher.

I don't think it's a bad tax so much as an inefficient tax. It clumsily gets most local city business out of it because city dwellers can get to work more easily. But by it's nature, it's a regressive tax, so let's not forget that it's a vaguely valid point.
Posted by jnmend on July 31, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Fnarf 4
So the Times is acknowledging that they use fake people to support their positions? That's nice. Fox much?
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 31, 2009 at 2:28 PM
5
The Stranger has never let people write articles under a pseudonym, right Mark Donuts?
Posted by Jeff on July 31, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Andy_Squirrel 6
the thing about "getting nickeled and dimed to death" is that it actually doesn't hurt....nor does it kill you......

Posted by Andy_Squirrel on July 31, 2009 at 3:06 PM
7
Here's something that "certainly is curious" -- Why you'd honestly try to infer that someone's unfortunate mistake is really evidence of a loony-ass liberal conspiracy theory that the Times ed board is controlling the newshole.
And you guys make fun of birthers and thruthers.
Posted by Frank N. Christ on July 31, 2009 at 3:11 PM
laterite 8
The Times deserves this egg on their face, if only for continuing to allow the existence of their horrible cesspool of a comments section in the first place.
Posted by laterite on July 31, 2009 at 4:07 PM
9
@8: As opposed to this one???!!! LMFAO!
Posted by Slogging through Slog on July 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Will in Seattle 10
Let's get real here - when your rent is around $25/sqft at a minimum and your carrying costs and utilities way higher, the $25 total charge per employee won't even cover what it costs to give them coffee and cake at weekly meetings.

Yet another reason why Seattle Likes Mike.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 31, 2009 at 4:33 PM
11
Savage, care to tell us your stance on paying people to write under fake names?

Who is this guy?

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/sprea…

His writing seems familiar ...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ma…

Or this one?

http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/10/a_no…

Your stance seems inconsistent. Care to clarify?
Posted by Stunod! on July 31, 2009 at 8:04 PM
12
Mark Donuts vs. Kenean Bowen

One editor got fired, another promoted.
Posted by Stunod on July 31, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Catalina Vel-DuRay 13
Dears, there's a big difference between having a report written under a pseudonym (Papers have done it for years for boring things like the Society beat) and making up sources - or getting fooled by fake sources, which is even worse.

Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on July 31, 2009 at 9:28 PM
COMTE 14
Yah, 'cuz everybody knows no writer of any worth would EVER use a fake name.
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on July 31, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Lee 15
What 13 said. It's not the fake name that matters here. It's the fictional story. It's fine if this asshole wants to be anonymous, but the problem with the story was the made-up business owner.
Posted by Lee on August 1, 2009 at 10:57 AM

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