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Friday, July 31, 2009

They'll Leave the Light on For You

Posted by on Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:25 AM

4f15/1248995144-06436_b1.jpgIn its 95 years of existence, Cornish College of the Arts has never had dorms—until now.

This summer, Cornish is in the (rapid) process of transforming the former Days Inn (at Seventh and Blanchard) and the former Eighth Avenue Inn (on Eighth between Bell and Blanchard) into residence halls for 280 mostly first-year students, who move in starting Sunday, August 30.

Associate Provost Jenifer Ward talks about what's behind the change, why you shouldn't call them dorms, and about Cornish's long-term real-estate dreams.

JG: I want to ask you about Cornish's new dorms—but I'm not supposed to call them dorms, right?
JW: Yeah, let's don't call them dorms. A dorm is a place where you sleep. What we're looking at is more along the lines of a living-learning center, where the co-curriculum dovetails with what the curriculum does, and where life at an arts college is taken seriously as something that happens both in and outside of the classroom.
JG: So in those terms, what is the co-curriculum?
JW: That's yet to be seen. We've just hired a residence life director and a hall director, and they're both dynamite. They've both got good backgrounds in student development.
JG: At arts colleges?
JW: No, but they've both got the right kind of training and background and openness, and they get it—they get students. …It begs the question: Is an 18- or 19-year-old first-year student at an arts college primarily a student or primarily an artist? And I don't have a good answer to that. I think they're both, and I think that we needed to hire people that would not typecast in either direction but would meet these students where they are and try to craft an experience for them, or actually with them, in creating a community that serves them and their whole lives.
JG: Has Cornish ever had residence halls before?
JW: No. So this is just an incredible opportunity for us. One of the things that Cornish says about itself is that it fosters interdisciplinary inquiry and it's innovative, and it tries to push against those boundaries that structure disciplines and explore and all of that, but at the end of the day we do have departments and they have pretty tight curricula and they're pretty structured—and there's not a whole lot of opportunity for people to meet each other outside of their departments. That's in part because it's an urban institution where people come to do their work and then they scatter to Capitol Hill or Queen Anne or wherever to live their lives, and that we still do have a split campus, with part of it in the Denny Triangle, and with music and dance up on the Hill. This is a way for us to forge community that doesn't live only in those boundaries.
JG: Is this only for first-year students?

JW: Primarily. First-years will be required to live in the residence halls (unless they're exempt by virtue of their parents living really close and so they'll live at home), there'll be some transfer students there, and to the extent that we still have openings, continuing students can apply, but eventually we anticipate that it will be mostly a first-year experience. I think that's only natural. Students will come, get a pied-a-terre in Seattle for their first year, and then they naturally developmentally start to think, Okay, now it might be cool to get an apartment.
JG: How many slots do you have?
JW: I think there are 280 beds. Most students will live in double rooms, or they can apply to have a single, and there's an upcharge for that. I think that what we're seeing is that most students are electing to have roommates.
JG: What's the ratio of in-town to out-of-town students at Cornish?
JW: I can't tell you exactly offhand, but it's definitely trending towards more out-of-town. And I think it varies from department to department.
(UPDATE: According to Cornish figures from 2008, almost 46 percent of enrolling students were from the Puget Sound region.)
JG: Will students have to pay more for tuition?
JW: No, they have to pay charges to live in a residence hall, but the tuition is exactly the same. It's the kind of thing where if you are a very frugal student you could probably live 15 to a room in Capitol Hill and come out much cheaper, but it's comparable to what you would pay if you shared an apartment. And the thing that we're trying to emphasize is that you're not just paying for the room, you're paying for the programming, you're paying for the community, for the resident assistants, the cardio equipment so you don't have to get a gym membership, for the wireless internet access—so you don't have to pay for those.
JG: What are other perks?
JW: We have two buildings: the former Days Inn and the former Eighth Avenue Inn. (The Hurricane is the meat of the sandwich.) So they're hotels, and they're set up like hotels, and we're obviously cleaning them out and making them student-friendly and outfitting the rooms differently so they've now got desks and stuff like that. But one of the things that's exciting about the buildings is that you have these former hotel public spaces like the breakfast area, those will be lounges, and there will be opportunities for students to do some light cooking, there are some pianos in rooms that will be music practice rooms. It's not the case that every single thing is in both buildings, but students who live in one will have access to both of them. Each of the rooms has a private bath, each has wireless access, then there are public spaces.
JG: How many RAs are there?
JW: 12 total, so it's a pretty good ratio, and they're from across the college.
JG: They're students, right?
JW: Yeah. Those students get their room and board paid for but they have to work for it. When I went to college, there were RAs but they were there to yell at us if we had a gentleman caller and kept the door closed, and that's not what they do anymore. It's sort of peer counseling, peer development, social programming, wellness programming.
JG: You've used the word 'programming' several times, so I have to ask: what are a couple of examples of what the programming will be?
JW: They're going to be developing those things, so I can't tell you what they'll be, but I can tell you some kinds of programs that are popular in residence life programs across the country. There might be an open mic night or a poetry slam. There might be a spa day where you'd hire a massage therapist in to do chair massages during finals week. They may invite faculty members to do talks.
JG: Dorms usually go with dining halls.
JW: Yes—Cornish's café is being expanded. I couldn’t say if it's been exactly doubled in size, but it looks doubled in size to me. So the offerings and the hours will be expanded. Students in the residence halls will purchase a board plan, but it's a variable plan, not a one-size-fits-all thing, because we have a good portion of students who will be up at Kerry Hall [on Capitol Hill]. We're getting little soft-sided, insulated coolers for each of them so when they go to breakfast in the morning, they can pick up their boxed lunch to take up the Hill with them.
The reality is, this is the first time we've done a residential life program at Cornish, so the first year is going to really be a matter of what works and seeing what might work better, and the RAs, these students, are really going to be our ear to the street. We've sat down and said, You guys are going to be right there in the thick of it, talk to us, let us know what we need to be thinking about for next year.
JG: Will Cornish make money from having residence halls? Aside from wanting to build community, were there logistical reasons for doing this? What was the impetus?
JW: I don't think it will help us financially—we won't make a profit on this. Our hope is to break even. I think where we think it's going to benefit us is that the more we want to become a college that's able to compete with other kinds of institutions and recruit students who are not living with their parents in Seattle, the more we need to be able to provide a place for them to stay.
The kind of student that is applying to Cornish now is not necessarily the kind of student who applied to us 15 years ago. These are traditional-aged students. They're applying to arts colleges but also to Whitman and PLU and all these places that have residential components, and if you're the parent of a student, and you're looking at the prospect of places that are going to provide for your kid in a full way, and then you look at Cornish, which is in an urban core, and you've got an 18-year-old student, it's something that gives you pause. We've been able to do pretty well in that regard, but I think we want to do better. But I think more than that, there's a way in which having people on site allows you to reach with them and engage with them in a way that's very hard when people are commuting.
JG: What else is going on with Cornish in terms of real estate? Does Cornish own the Alpha Cine building now?
JW: We do own it, and plans are pending. We actually acquired it in December and the former owner was leasing it temporarily. He has just—as in last week—handed it over. We're not sure about what will ultimately go there.
We're in a capital campaign. The Campaign for Cornish (2002-2012) is $95 million. Of that, $88 million is designated for the creation of a consolidated campus, and $7 million is for growing the endowment. Through a combination of property sales, generous gifts, and pledges, we are now about $42 million into the $88 million (consolidation); and about $5 million into the $7 million (endowment). In short, we're halfway there.
Even in this challenging climate, we have received some wonderful gifts designated for the Performing Arts Complex, slated to be (eventually) in the building we own at Ninth and Lenora. This will allow us to move music and dance down the hill and realize the dream of a consolidated campus. And in case your next question was to be about the fate of Kerry Hall once that happens, the answer is that the board of trustees will study the possibilities during the next couple of years, consider all options, and try to make a good, strategic, long-term decision that serves the mission of the college into the future.
JG: Okay. When do the students start arriving? Will you leave mints on their pillows?
JW: (laughs) They arrive at the end of August, and we're excited. It's going to be a quick turnaround because the hotels were only delivered to us just a few weeks ago, so it's a huge scramble, and every single person is on deck for the scramble. The one thing I an say with absolute clarity is that I'm wildly impressed with the staff we've put together for this and I think it's going to be great.

Full disclosure: I teach contemporary art history on an adjunct basis at Cornish.
This post has been corrected.

 

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tabletop_joe 1
I caught a hilarious type-o: "there will be a spay day". I think it's supposed to be spa day, but a spay day might not be such a bad idea. Could keep the kids in school or whatever, no one likes to see babies having babies.
Posted by tabletop_joe on July 31, 2009 at 9:45 AM
rob! 2
@1, that opened my bleary eyes too.
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on July 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Renton Mike 3
They were saying "Don't call them dorms" when I was in school back in the early 90s as well.
Posted by Renton Mike on July 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM
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Let me say for the official record: the Associate Provost at Cornish College of the Arts does not advocate the spaying and neutering of anything except household pets. SPA day, SPA day, SPA day!--Jenifer Ward, Associate Provost

Posted by Jenifer on July 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Jenny from the Block 5
No JW, it does not "beg the question".
Posted by Jenny from the Block on July 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
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these are living learning centers, not dorms. Dorms says sleeping only. Art students are engaged in artistic engagement 24 hours a day, and it's integrated into their lives, indeed, into their identities.

So don't call them dorms dammit!

(Of course it could be said that "normal" or "ordinary" college studients have been known to "study" in their dorm rooms or "think" about history, or computers, what have you -- but this arguments fails, as those are just "ordinary" students, not "artists" who have special status.)

(Also, please don't point out thatt the Cornish dorms are motel rooms....it's a considered choice to use motel rooms as an ironic comment on the nature of modern auto oriented society blah blah blah....while on the surface this looks like a real estate speculation to park land and use it as dorms for a while then gain megabucks when the economr recovers, please do NOT call it dorms, motel rooms, or a real estate ploy, ok? These are artists we are talking about!)
Posted by PC on July 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
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what an excellent development. i was thinking of Cornish this week, as i read the coverage of Merce Cunningham's passing and his Cornish roots. what an amazing resource for the nation.
Posted by Ammons on July 31, 2009 at 9:57 AM
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"A dorm is a place where you sleep"? did Jenifer Ward ever go to college herself? Everything she talks about is typical for college dorm living - well, except for providing box lunches for students to take to their classes. I think it's a great idea for Cornish to offer dorm living, but the jargon coming out of this woman's mouth is ridiculous.

I know that having a split campus is unwieldy, and probably unrealistically expensive, but I will be very sad when they consolidate themselves down to Allentown.
Posted by genevieve on July 31, 2009 at 9:57 AM
edie murphy beverly hills have eyes cleary 9
Earth to nutjobs, these ARE dorms. And thats not a bad word anyways. Its owned by the college, you live there with only other students. And you know what, my first year in THE DORMS at UW, i lived on a floor with a lot of art students, and we had a big communal space with couches and tv but they all used for their art making and we had art gallery shit and they were in the halls throughout the night working on projects, very much like your 'co-curriculum living centers'. And just to give you a heads up Cornish provost people, those students are going to make a huuuuuge mess of their DORM ROOMS and the communal space. you are going to have so much shit all over the place... in your DORMS.

Posted by edie murphy beverly hills have eyes cleary on July 31, 2009 at 10:14 AM
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They'll all have little insulated lunch bags? That's the cutest thing ever. I give it a week before they realize that this is a dumb idea.

And no dormitory that I ever lived in was just 'a place where you sleep'. I *lived* there, along with many, many other students. Just cramming a whole lot of students together in a building provides a fertile environment for all kinds of brilliance and hijinks. I don't think Cornish needs to be so precious about it.
Posted by arts&letters on July 31, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Baconcat 11
I worked in my dorm, and lord did I ever make every effort to get out of there. It's really what scuttled my education for a while.

By the way, anyone have a link to that study that says art students that live on campus are the most promiscuous out of all levels and types of college students?
Posted by Baconcat on July 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM
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It'll be interesting to see what becomes of Kerry Hall. Condos perhaps?

As a music student there, it really did separate us from the rest of the school. At first that seemed lame, but when I started to have classes down at Lenora I realized that Kerry Hall was a much needed escape from the fucking theater students. Sorry to have to say that, but it was (is still?) completely true.
Posted by cs on July 31, 2009 at 10:34 AM
MadDog 13
I heard that it was in Nellie Cornish's will and wishes that Kerry Hall would always remain in Cornish's care and that they cant sell it. Can anyone verify that?
Posted by MadDog on July 31, 2009 at 10:40 AM
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Yeah, let's don't call them dorms. A dorm is a place where you sleep. What we're looking at is more along the lines of a living-learning center, where the co-curriculum dovetails with what the curriculum does, and where life at an arts college is taken seriously as something that happens both in and outside of the classroom.

....?! What?

God. I guess the first year students at Cornish will get a head start on all that dizzying bullshit artspeak we love so much.

Yeah. Let's do call them dorms, ok? I mean, a spade is a spade, right? (let's not actually answer that)

Despite the impenetrable language, I honestly think Cornish is long overdue in getting housing for their students and I'm glad to hear they've finally done so. Awesome stuff!
Posted by sharonArnold http://dimensionsvariable.org on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Fnarf 15
Yes, these are dorms. But it's important for budding art students to learn how to speak arts doublespeak, so they might as well start at their new home, these Interdisciplinary Co-Curricular Living-Learning Centers.

Also, converting motels or office buildings to college dorms has been done before. It's cheaper than building from scratch, which is the real reason they're doing this. John Moores University and Liverpool University in Liverpool have seemingly taken over half of the city center for their dorms, including the awesome St. Andrews Gardens, a "bullring" style former tenement (the similar Gerrard Gardens can be seen in all its slum glory in the movie "Violent Playground", David McCallum's first film, 1958. Now they're quite nice.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10089490@N0…

I'm not sure the Days Inn will ever ascend to "quite nice", but anything's possible, I guess. It will be interesting to see if some form of student culture can infiltrate the neighborhood (which is unfortunately mostly surface parking lots).
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Asa 16
The Hurricane is going to be overrun with these kids.
Posted by Asa on July 31, 2009 at 11:54 AM
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*lol* Like the Hurricane isn't already overrun with angsty kids.
Posted by sharonArnold http://dimensionsvariable.org on July 31, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Will in Seattle 18
ART never Sleeps.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 31, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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JW's description of why these aren't dorms sounds exactly like my media-inferred idea of what a normal college dorm is.
Posted by Cornish Student on July 31, 2009 at 1:09 PM
gloomy gus 20
A nice residential cluster of gays neither middle-class nor middle-aged will be a terrific shot in the arm for downtown. I do hope they overrun the Hurricane, it needs overrunning in the worst way.
Posted by gloomy gus on July 31, 2009 at 1:13 PM
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It begs the question: Is an 18- or 19-year-old first-year student at an arts college primarily a student or primarily an artist?

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Posted by feh on July 31, 2009 at 1:31 PM
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Old stuff. When I moved into the newly opened Holden Hall on the campus of Michigan State University in 1967, it was proudly touted as a "living-learning" center, rather than merely a dormitory.
Posted by Old Fart on July 31, 2009 at 4:00 PM
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It begs the question

I know some of you kids are very proud to have learned the original meaning of this phrase, and can't wait to show off for everybody.

But some of us have been around a while. We use "I" and "me "correctly, even "who" and "whom" correctly, and rarely dangle prepositions. We have learned multiple foreign languages and studied the theory of generative grammer. And we still use "begs the question" in the modern sense. It makes sense that way. We need a phrase for that. And "taking your conclusion as a premise" is a perfectly clear phrase for what "begs the question" used to mean.

So get off you high horse and show off for when you've actually acomplished something.
Posted by David Wright on July 31, 2009 at 11:25 PM
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Dear Cornish,

Thank you for consolidating all of your ridiculous, spoiled, and hot young art girls in one place. For those nights when not-a-one hipster chick on the hill will fall for my crap, you have given me hope that sloshing down Denny and pouring myself into a booth at the hurricane will give me just what I'm looking for, as long as I can ask unanswerable questions and bite my tongue when hearing the answers. I look forward to a collaborative partnership that will provide much co-curriculum and living-learning artistic experiences.

Sincerely,
-My Dick
Posted by utter failure in life on July 31, 2009 at 11:49 PM
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We need a phrase for that.
What's wrong with "pleads the question"?
Posted by gerwitz http://hans.gerwitz.com/ on August 1, 2009 at 8:56 AM
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