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Homo How They Lie
Posted by Dominic Holden on Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:25 PM
The woman in the video below, filmed in a Walmart parking lot yesterday in Port Angeles, supports marriage rights for same-sex couples, she told Chris Mason, 27, who filmed this clip as part of a documentary. So why did she agree to sign Referendum 71, which would repeal the domestic partnership bill?
The man in the video, who's working for the anti-gay Protect Marriage Washington, uses misleading tactics. First, he says the referendum would give the woman an opportunity to decide whether she is “in favor” of giving marriage licenses to homosexual couples—implying that it would expand gay rights. But R-71 would do the opposite by repealing a bill that gives registered gay couples more rights. “She told me she was in favor of same sex marriage licenses,” Mason says about his conversation with the woman after she signed the petition. "I don't think she would have signed it" if she had known, he says.
Even if the woman opposed gay marriage, the petitioner is also lying when he says that the measure applies to giving "homosexual couples legal marriage licenses." R-71 concerns only domestic partnerships, not “marriage.” Then he further embellishes his lie by claiming that the measure is not just about "the same rights as married people, but marriage licenses, too"—which is also the opposite of what domestic partnerships are: the rights of marriage without marriage licenses. Mason says the man, who refused to give his name, gathered many signatures yesterday using this technique.
But the burn is (probably) on the bigots. They have made this a referendum on gay marriage, and they're still probably going to fail to get on ballot.
Signatures are due tomorrow. If R-71 sponsors fail to turn in the required 120,577 signatures, the domestic partnership law will go into effect on Sunday. If they turn in more, the Secretary of State's Office will determine if there are enough valid signatures in the next two weeks. Assuming the petitions fails, David Ammons, spokesman for the Secretary of State's Office, says, "Our department runs the domestic-partnership registry, and they are preparing to update the website to inform [registered partners] of their added rights."
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"The less the enemy knows the better. All I know is that it seems quite simple, given the intimidatory tactics that some pro gay marriage groups and individuals (Mr Holden / Mr Savage) have engaged in and the outright brutal attacks, you won't see the handing out of petitions in places where there are known opponents who can distort and slow the gathering. I believe that's the best thing to do, keeping low and out of certain areas where nothing will accomplished, nothing, focusing instead on those where there are people with receptive concerns until all the signatures needed have been gathered. Wait until R-71 is in front of you then you can make use of your citizen right and vote in favor of it or against it. I'm against it, but since I saw how many hurdles where being put in their way I have donated as a private citizen that I am because I'm in favor of our democratic process going forward not dimished and I think that they have the right to put this for referendum and let the people decide.
Baconcat, Instead of finding undemocratic ways to stop these signatures don't you think your time would be better spent in trying to explain to the people why they should not vote in favor once they see it in the voting booth? That and assuring them (if it's true only) that you wont use your domestic partnerships as a stepping stone to gay marriage. Where do you think you will end up Baconcat if you keep demonizing the other side. Lets meet in the middle of the road so that we can put these things behind us and focus on more important issues that affect all of us. "
Posted by Loveschild on June 9, 2009 at 2:57
Apparently, integrity and honesty isn't part of the Protect Marriage Washington creed. To think they are doing this for faith, and therefore God, he must be so proud of all of you right now.
I've also bathed in lamb's blood, but that was totally different.
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A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will not go free. PROVERBS 19:5
A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will perish. PROVERBS 19:9
So, whose more worthy of death the person who lieth with mankind or the the one who bears false witness? Or are we to assume that there is a ranking system, and as long as you aren't the one who lieth with mankind your free and clear to bear false witness? I'm personally not aware of a "Free to Bear False Witness Card" in the Bible.
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Whosoever shall declareth their bigotry and bear false witness against others shall be absolved of all sin, forever and ever amen LOVESCHILD 6:66
Now that I think about it, "Bible Verses or HUMP plot?" would be a good gameshow.
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@12: Actually, I would love to see a HUMP submission inspired by the story of Lot and his daughters.
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Hmm the story of Lot, no too easy.
I know the story of adam and eve. well there was adam and eve and they had kids, and those kids had sex with each other and eve. So ya the bible promotes incest.
Eww the perverse book you hide behind, the bible, could be considered freaken PORN!
Ya so lot had sex with his daughter....... Thats F'ed Up!
In addition, it is not a lie to say that R-71 would extend marriage licenses to gay couples. The legislative language uses the verbiage "extend marriage equally to domestically registered couples." Does that not effectively extend marriage licenses to gays?
Of course, liberals never want voters to actually decide for themselves. They would rather ram it through their legilatures or courts.
Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!".The battle against the sexualities should stop,and start being one in love now so we can be one in love for eternity.
Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!".The battle against the sexualities should stop,and start being one in love now so we can be one in love for eternity.
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