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Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Mayoral Update: Who's Melting

Posted by Dominic Holden on Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Last week, The Stranger published its patented Snowball’s-Chance-in-Hell—O-Meter, which rates the likelihood of a candidate making it through the top-two primary. Mayor Greg Nickels is a shoo-in; the question is who will face off with him. Last night, the candidates went head-to-head at a forum at Spitfire sponsored by Friends of Seattle. The four challengers present (Mallahan was absent for a family emergency, Nickels was in D.C., and Elizabeth Campbell and Kwame Wyking Garret weren't there) began by jotting down answers to a lightning round of questions from moderator Erica C. Barnett, the sparkling new news editor of PubliCola. How do you get to work? Jan Drago, who lives downtown, walks. James Donaldson, a resident of Magnolia, drives a car.

It wasn't the most exciting debate—the room was full of local-politics insiders, and even they looked mostly bored—but the questions were good, Mike McGinn gave some great answers, and several of the candidates shifted states of matter (either melting or solidifying their Snowball’s Chance in Hell).

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Mike McGinn made the strongest appearance of the night. His central talking point is opposing the deep bore tunnel under downtown, which he forecasts as a boondoggle of runaway costs that's bad for the environment and provides little long-term transportation value for the city. “If I am mayor, I guarantee you, they are not going to build that tunnel through town,” he said. It's a wise tack, considering polling conducted by his campaign in late May shows that McGinn jumps from fourth place to a commanding lead when voters are told the tunnel’s cost overruns could cost the city big bucks and that McGinn is the only mayoral candidate who opposes it. Barnett was smart to frame questions around obstacles—heading off proposals that the mayor couldn’t enact (as in, don’t talk about plans for light rail as a solution for transportation because that’s a regional issue, not a municipal one). But McGinn shot back that he didn’t buy the argument that the mayor is powerless to influence major transportation. He noted that Nickels went to Olympia and leveraged about $900 million in city spending if the state would cover the remaining $3 billion for a tunnel; McGinn would use that transportation funding for a surface/transit option and other tunnel alternatives. McGinn says that we would have money for other programs if we just avoid building the tunnel. He had few good ideas, such as convening social service providers for interventions for at-risk youth. He also turned The Stranger's critique that his education proposals are irrelevant because those issues are left to the school board, not the mayor; McGinn suggest replicating Norm Rice's education summits, drawing together local leaders, to help schools. "Don't just say schools are not our department, but ask how I can make a difference." He has solidified from a glass of ice water to a partially melted snowball.

James Donaldson supports expanding the street car line and thinks the way to solve the city's education problems is to continue to honor his commitment to reading to school kids one afternoon a week. He mentioned his size a lot (big problems need a big person, he said), and he talked about teamwork a lot (he knows about teams because he used to play basketball). Some of his statements were bizarre: When asked about kids, he said, “Everyone here is of child-bearing age,” referring to the group of bar patrons. He has been downgraded from partially melted snowball to a glass of ice water.

Norman Sigler, the most attractive candidate of the bunch (and a homosexual who is “not running as a gay candidate”), took issue before the forum with how The Stranger characterized his campaign platform—“blah, blah, blah”—and promised to present a lot of great ideas. On stage, Sigler repeatedly called to “bring everyone together" (AKA, blah, blah, blah) and his transportation idea was to “revisit the monorail.” Yeesh. He also suggested that we can help kids by focusing on all kids and all adults (focusing on everyone!). Last week, Sigler's status was water; he has since turned into water vapor.

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1
What this city clearly needs is another five to ten years of dithering about what to do with the viaduct.
Posted by Westside forever on July 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM
willisreed 2
Of Course McGinn made it out of that particular forum looking good - Friends of Seattle is practically an arm of the McGinn campaign!

Gary Manca, FoS's Executive Director has been a McGinn volunteer since day 1. This sure as hell wasn't an impartial forum or crowd.
Posted by willisreed on July 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Enigma 3
I was going for Drago because I didn't know much about McGinn, but after the last few weeks of researching the candidates, I'm on his side. If he lives up to his words, then I think we have a chance of getting our surface/transit waterfront.
Posted by Enigma http://approvereferendum71.org/ on July 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM
4
Yes, please let's do take another decade at least to decide a Viaduct replacement option, Fatty Slob McGinn. And please incorporate much wringing of hands and whining.
Posted by Don't need another fat slob mayor on July 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Will in Seattle 5
I agree that McGinn improved his chances, but based on what I saw in the field outside of politico circles, Donaldson is still a snowball and may even be wearing a bow tie by this point or has a carrot in preparation for becoming a full fledged snow man.

@1 - nah, we just need to kill the Billionaires Tunnel and go with either Surface plus Transit or a Viaduct Rebuild.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM
6
Seattle has chronic low self-esteem, so it will elect the fattiest, slobbiest candidate of the bunch to match its own self-image.
Posted by Am I really surprised? on July 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM
7
I noticed last weekend that Mallahan had stuck his stupid yard signs into planting strips and nailed to telephone poles all over West Seattle so everyone cruising Alki for the Seafair opening would see them. Jerk, I ain't gonna vote for a litterbug.

Posted by SchmuckyTheCat on July 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM
8
i like that chart / graphic.
Posted by in-frequent on July 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
crazycatguy 9
Still voting for Nickels.
Posted by crazycatguy on July 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
10
Video of the debate is available at

http://friendsofseattle.blip.tv
Posted by Friends of Seattle on July 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM
11
No truer words were ever spoken, willisreed.

That's a fact.
Posted by katheyef on July 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM
josh 12
maybe I've been brainwashed, but I feel like our choices w/r/t the viaduct are

1. surface/transit + tunnel
2. new viaduct

I'll take option 1, with a side of no more dithering.
Posted by josh http://www.sciencevsromance.net on July 14, 2009 at 2:26 PM
13
please please please let the stranger endorse mcginn. atleast then the election will actually be about something, rather than about which chicken leg eating candidate has a bow and which doesn't.
Posted by chicken little on July 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM
14
@2 and @11 - Dear Drago supporters #12 of 32 and #26 of 32 - the fact that McGinn gave better answers than any other candidate on issues pertaining to EVERYONE IN THE CITY, asked by an impartial moderator, at a public forum, does not make the venue biased. I'm sorry Jan's feelings were hurt by the boos.
Posted by nickelsindrag on July 14, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Fnarf 15
"I Heart North Korea"? Really?
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Mickymse 16
@ 2 & 11, Oh, please! While the demographics and issues for Friends of Seattle certainly play to McGinn's strengths, it wasn't Gary or any other FoS leader who moderated. And the questions weren't only pre-planned by Erica, she opened it up to the audience. For example, I was able to ask a specific question about youth violence, which isn't a major FoS issue.

Whether you support him or not, McGinn clearly performed the best of the four who were there last night.
Posted by Mickymse on July 14, 2009 at 5:00 PM
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@2, 11 and to add to 16.

The idea that we should have a mayor that only does well on her home court (to borrow from Mr. Donaldson) is ridiculous. A successful mayor will need to be able to persuade a skeptical audience. And that includes someone like Drago talking to an audience like FoS.

Also, a successful mayor should be able to read an audience. Most of the candidates last night gave fairly vague, pat answers, e.g. "vote for me because I have proven leadership." That particular audience represented included some of the most clued-in, news-reading, political junkies in Seattle. And none of the candidates stepped up and treated the audience to an especially detailed, knowledgeable, or creative answer (with the exception of McGinn schooling us on the Norm Rice education summit).

Also, I started hissing when Drago said the only way that we can have density is if we expand open spaces. Jane Jacobs demolished that Le Corbusier vision in the 1960s. Great example: Drago is proud of the recently passed proposal to turn Bell St into a pedestrian blvd. With the amount of crack that is sold in Belltown all that will happen is crackdealers will get a new address. That would be an obvious consequence of adding open space to a dense area and a dumb problem to have.

On that point, I loved Donaldson's quip that he had lived in Rome and a handful of other world cities, and if they can make density work for a classy lifestyle, there is no reason we can't.

One last thing. Great for McGinnn for recognizing that neighborhoods are not full of people that hate density. It only seems that way because of a few self-selecting loudmouths on neighborhood councils.
Posted by aff on July 14, 2009 at 5:30 PM
18
Dominic,
Next time you have a chance to interview McGinn could you press him for specifics on his anti-tunnel stance? At the forum he said that the Mayor has "tools" available to block construction and that we could pay for a lot of programs with the $930 million or so that the city will spend on the project.

So, after the event I asked him point blank
1) what “tools” was he referring to?
2) how much he thinks the city should pay to replace the viaduct?
I got the brush off on both answers. (when i pressed on question 2 i was told “more than zero, less than $930 million.)

I think McGinn is the best of the bunch and it showed last night. But so much of his campaign seems to be about blocking the tunnel and using the savings on other projects, and getting non-answers to some pretty basic questions was a little unsettling -- it's like being told "just trust me". I don't think he'd dare do that to a Stranger reporter...
Posted by What are these "tools" you speak of? on July 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM
19
Also too, the event last night was run very fairly and professionally and the complaints to the contrary sound like sour grapes to me.
Posted by What are these "tools" you speak of? on July 14, 2009 at 11:03 PM
20
@18 Press him yourself. I have often sent him tweets at his Twitter account McGinnForMayor and gotten direct replies within a day or so (either from him or a staffer).

Also, one of his tools is pretty damned obvious. The city is not obligated to issue a permit to contractors to dig up city-owned land. He could just . . . not do that.
Posted by Zelbinian on July 17, 2009 at 5:18 PM
JonSM99 21
Why would you assume Nickels is a shoo-in to make it through the primary? I think he's in real danger of repeating Paul Schell's 2001 performance. The only thing that might save him is the sheer number of challengers splitting the anti-Nickels vote.

I was there and asked the first non-Israel question from the audience, on funding the pedestrian master plan (http://seattle.gov/mostwalkablecity.htm) and other ped needs, particularly sidewalks. Sigler said we should get neighbors together to help themselves in their own communities. Really? When sidewalks cost $100,000 per block face? How are neighbors coming together going to fund $1 million of sidewalks for both sides of a street for 5 blocks? That answer was shocking pablum that made me think Sigler has no idea what he's talking about and just offers nice-sounding platitudes.

Donaldson spoke of waste at SDOT and better management. While SDOT clearly has waste and needs better management, that also won't remotely fund the pedestrian master plan at the $800 million Drago said it needs. This answer was slightly less ridiculous than Sigler's, but also showed Donaldson's ignorance and hope that pandering to people with easy fixes (who's not against waste, fraud and abuse? Page 1 of the GOP playbook) would win them over. His answer was not only hollow, but kind of cynical and insulting.

I'm not voting for Drago, and see absolutely no argument for her candidacy, but I have to give her points for clearly showing she has experience, has been through these battles, and was willing to tell people things they didn't want to hear (on density where I disagreed, and tolling where I agreed). She started by saying we need to change federal transportation funding policy so it's less car-centric. That was a really dumb starting point. She's absolutely right; that's a crucial issue, and the Brookings Institute has done great work on it. But the mayor of Seattle is going to fix federal law? And this in a campaign where McGinn has been criticized for proposing things outside a mayor's authority? She then went on to suggest public-private partnerships. That seems reasonable and realistic to me, but insufficient (and still doesn't answer where the public part of that money comes from). Seattle's total pedestrian needs likely total $1.5-2 billion, and unless you're talking about a ridiculous timeframe (like the 817 years it'll take us to fill our whole sidewalk backlog at our current pace), that won't be enough.

McGinn noted that he was on the advisory group that wrote the ped master plan, and of course tied it to the Viaduct. The city's obligation for that project is $930 million, so not doing it funds the whole pedestrian master plan right there. That's a little trite and simplistic (surely all the money wouldn't go for the master plan, especially as the surface/transit option would have its own costs), but he did fully answer my question. And not boring a tunnel seems more realistic to me than overhauling federal law (for a Seattle mayor anyway). He talked to me afterward and we had a more nuanced conversation about what the needs and potential funding really are. Admittedly, it's hard to get very detailed in your questions or answers in 60 seconds.

I went into the night leaning toward McGinn, knowing nothing really about the other challengers. I left feeling more enthusiastic about McGinn, respect for Drago, and that Donaldson and Sigler are jokes.
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Posted by JonSM99 on July 17, 2009 at 5:43 PM
JonSM99 22
@20: That's basically how Jane Jacobs and her community stopped the Spadina Expressway in Toronto. The province insisted on building the highway, but Toronto took control of a tiny strip of land across the right of way, and the province was stuck. About a mile of that highway stands, often called the stubway. It's amazing to see the vibrant neighborhoods that were preserved and think how different the area would look had it been built.
Posted by JonSM99 on July 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM

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