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Monday, July 13, 2009

One or the Other

Posted by on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM

A current example of a religion absorbing an aspect of the modern world:

A power company in Pakistan has obtained a decree - or fatwa - from 12 senior Islamic scholars, declaring the theft of electricity a sin.

The Karachi Electricity Supply Company (KESC) says the thieves are costing it 1bn rupees ($12.3m) a month.

People had to realise, it said, that stealing electricity was as illegal and immoral as any other form of theft.

Many people in Karachi either siphon power from overhead cables, or slow down their electricity meters.

The 12 scholars said that, according to Islamic Sharia law, unpermitted use of any commodity, and gaining benefit from it, was "sin, theft and usurpation".

A current example of a religion rejecting an aspect of the modern world:

Demonstrations against a decision to open a Jerusalem parking lot on Shabbat continued for the second week in a row.

The demonstrations which began Saturday afternoon were less violent than previous ones, the daily Ha'aretz reported.

The Carta parking lot, which is privately owned and in receivership, was opened by Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat in order to assist Saturday visitors to the holy city. The lot is staffed by non-Jews and is free on Shabbat.

Most marchers were stopped by police roadblocks, though some managed to gather at the lot, located across from the Old City walls near the Jaffa Gate. Protestors at the parking lot were heard calling the police "murderers" and "Nazis," according to Ha'aretz.

Either way, religion ends in confusion.

 

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1
Here's the part where all the atheists get up and arms and start disassembling their strawmen constructs of religion.
Posted by Ackham on July 13, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Fnarf 2
Yes, the Nazis were famous for their overzealous provision of parking.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM
3
The first seems to make sense, I suppose, within the context. The second is just pure loony tunes, though, no?
Posted by jw36 on July 13, 2009 at 2:30 PM
4
What part of you gets cut off for stealing electricity?
Posted by Westside forever on July 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM
The Amazing Jim 5
Stealing electricity is still stealing. Sometimes you just have to speak to people in terms they understand.

Parking on Saturday? That's like saying Jehovah would like my wife's cooking. Blasphemy!
Posted by The Amazing Jim http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=100000076496291&ref=profile on July 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Will in Seattle 6
This is why the Taliban use mechanically-fired RPGs.

Then it ain't stealing.

Mind you, the killing of innocent civilians is ... slightly wrong according to the Koran ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 13, 2009 at 3:01 PM
7
Okay, I don't like to be in the position of defending crazy right-wing Jews, but...

Their behavior is just wrong, Period. Calling someone a murderer because they're parking? Come on. But the *idea* of a car-free zone on the Sabbath is a reasonable one for those who want to practice it that way. The concept is that the Sabbath should be a day of freedom from dependence on technology and business. Those are good ideas, don't you think? Having a day just for your spirit and to interact with your family and community is a refreshing and restorative experience, or at least I've found it to be that way. So if there were an area of town designated for such observance and someone wanted to open a parking lot there, you can see how that would undermine the atmosphere.

What I'm saying, then is: *if* enough people in a neighborhood wanted such a zone, then it would be reasonable to create it. And *if* someone wanted to engage in business or operate a parking lot or do other activities that would destroy the reason for the zone, they should not be permitted to do that. I don't know if those are the circumstances here, nor do I believe that right-wing Jews should get to own Jerusalem and bully everyone else. I'm just asking for people to think about the general idea.
Posted by mischiefmanager on July 13, 2009 at 3:08 PM
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@7 you have just defined the tyranny of the majority. The problem isn't the idea of the Sabbath, the problem is people who, violently, demand that EVERYONE conform to their idea of the Sabbath.
Posted by Westside forever on July 13, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Vince 9
Religion sucks!
Posted by Vince on July 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM
10
@7,

Unfortunately, the article has to be paid for, but conservative Jewish Israelis have been pushing the line for a long time now. Odds are that this has nothing to do with creating a car free zone. They want everyone in Israel to abide by their religious rules, no exceptions. No one's forcing them to drive on the Sabbath. They need to sit down and shut up.
Posted by keshmeshi on July 13, 2009 at 11:02 PM

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