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Religion Next Time You Twitter
Posted by Charles Mudede on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:30 AM
It's always like this with American Christians:
Of course there was the moment at McNair’s Nashville memorial service when Bishop Joseph Walker II, decided to lecture people about the circumstances of McNair’s death...Suddenly Steven NcNair—a former football star who basically turned a young waitress into nothing more than a receptacle for his cum, and paid in the worst way for this obscene (and very self-centered) form of abstraction—needs to be forgiven. We need to stop throwing stones at him. But Christians are very selective with the spectrum of Christ's teachings. They do not universalize these teachings but coordinate them with specific situations that range from stable to unstable. This coordination results in them (the Christians) perpetually being on the right side of any situation. Forgiveness only makes its appearance when there is no other way to translate a wrong (or unstable situation) into terms that leave "His flock" with a clear advantage....So this is what Bishop Joseph Walker III said — no, shouted — the other day about Steve McNair:
“And I have come to declare from the youngest to the oldest in America and over this world, it’s time to have a stone dropping service. . . . Next time you write about Steve McNair, drop your stone. Next time you text somebody, drop your stone. The next time you Twitter, drop your stone.”
1
lemme guess...this is your "last" post on this?
you know, she was fucking around with a married dude. not exactly innocent, she was. plus she killed him. yeah, she's the victim here.
you know, she was fucking around with a married dude. not exactly innocent, she was. plus she killed him. yeah, she's the victim here.
2
There are so many layers of irony and hypocrisy here that I so badly want to assume it's intentional on the part of the author.
But, rather, I see the author waving a big slab of meat labeled "Christians" and throwing it out so he can watch the angry masses shake their fists and scream at it.
But, rather, I see the author waving a big slab of meat labeled "Christians" and throwing it out so he can watch the angry masses shake their fists and scream at it.
4
Do as we say, not as we do. And feigning a relationship with the Christian god will garner you a place in heaven regardless of how abhorrent you were in reality.
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Two things: Charles, it's absurd to assume that she was his "cum receptacle." Most relationships that involve one person cheating on their spouse are more complicated than that. She could have just as easily been using him as her boy toy, sugar daddy, or whatever.
Second, you're not saying anything of significance to say that Christians protect their own and rationalize behavior of their own when that behavior falls outside the strict, abstract, ideologies. Everyone does that, not just Christians or religious people.
So, in other words, you've said nothing of importance and I've just wasted my time pointing that out.
Second, you're not saying anything of significance to say that Christians protect their own and rationalize behavior of their own when that behavior falls outside the strict, abstract, ideologies. Everyone does that, not just Christians or religious people.
So, in other words, you've said nothing of importance and I've just wasted my time pointing that out.
7
I was just thinking how "Christians" have been used by Republicans with their anti-abortion political agenda. They (the Republicans) knew Roe vs. Wade would not be overturned, but if they could get enough conservatives on the court they could overturn laws that stopped corporations from a wholesale theft of our country (as if they weren't close to that now). Religion is the enemy of freedom and nothing good ever comes from religion. Nothing!
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@ 1 - I'll take bets that it is his last post. It sounds like Arturo Gatti was killed by his wife, so he'll move on to calling her a cumbucket any moment now.
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i agree with charles here. the point is that "christian" judgement reigns down upon sinners 24/7 through their media arms, but when a true tragedy occurs (MJ, McNair), we cannot discuss culpability and the mistakes that led to the tragedy? BS. Just because I don't JUDGE McNair doesn't mean he didn't fuck shit up.
This tragedy sums up this American decade: Professional Sports, celebrity, miscagenation, infidelity, exploitation, immigration, handguns, stripper heels, alcohol, spiraling debt, and tacky-ass SUVs.
This tragedy sums up this American decade: Professional Sports, celebrity, miscagenation, infidelity, exploitation, immigration, handguns, stripper heels, alcohol, spiraling debt, and tacky-ass SUVs.
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"But Christians are very selective with the spectrum of Christ's teachings."
No shit, sherlock. The teachings of Christ are approximately as relevant to most Christians as are the teaches of Peaches (probably less so).
No shit, sherlock. The teachings of Christ are approximately as relevant to most Christians as are the teaches of Peaches (probably less so).
12
Leave it to SLOG to find any reason to use this as yet another way to disparage heterosexuality.
How about making John Wayne Gacy the poster guy for Gayness instead?
How about making John Wayne Gacy the poster guy for Gayness instead?
13
Charles, have you ever actually met and spoken to a woman? You're so constantly sexist its excruciating.
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@1, he's not saying she's the victim. He's saying McNair is no hero. And he's not -- but he is in the eyes of most football fans and most Tennesseans, who will forgive anything as long as you're a football star.
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At this point, both McNair and his "cum receptacle" are nothing anymore. Worm food. What's the point in judging or not judging him or her? Their story should simply be a warning for the living.
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@11
It refers to the story of a stoning where Jebus told the crowd that they could bludgeon the prisoner to death if they were free from sin. Since the people weren't free from sin they couldn't "cast the first stone"
Now of course X-tians would just say they were free from sin and cast away at anyone they don't like.
It refers to the story of a stoning where Jebus told the crowd that they could bludgeon the prisoner to death if they were free from sin. Since the people weren't free from sin they couldn't "cast the first stone"
Now of course X-tians would just say they were free from sin and cast away at anyone they don't like.
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Well, thank god you spelled that out for me or I never would've noticed it on my own.
Oh, wait! I totally did notice it on my own! When I was seven!
Continue to eschew contractions and keep that thesaurus handy, Charles. Sooner or later someone who matters will think you're as smart as you think you are.
But Christians are very selective with the spectrum of Christ's teachings. They do not universalize these teachings but coordinate them with specific situations that range from stable to unstable.
Well, thank god you spelled that out for me or I never would've noticed it on my own.
Oh, wait! I totally did notice it on my own! When I was seven!
Continue to eschew contractions and keep that thesaurus handy, Charles. Sooner or later someone who matters will think you're as smart as you think you are.
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Ah yes, Charles, why are you so goddamn sexist about feeling sorry for the woman of Iranian(read: socially conservative) origin who was being fucked in secret by a man much more socially powerful than her in a bare apartment, and who didn't like it to the point of shooting him AND herself? Clearly you don't know anything about women.
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I am so relieved... it took me about 4 minutes to figure out the stone dropping reference....
Christianistas have not infiltrated all my brain yet, whew.
Christianistas have not infiltrated all my brain yet, whew.
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And don't even get me started about these women who cheat on their men FORCING them to slaughter them and their whole families. If they would just stop being such disobedient whores they would still be alive.
He did not rape her, she was not a minor, and he did not deserve to be killed simply because he did not live up to her ideals for their relationship.
He did not rape her, she was not a minor, and he did not deserve to be killed simply because he did not live up to her ideals for their relationship.
25
I love how the otherwise benign drop your stone line became the subject for a Charles Mudede post.
26
@24: is it fair to say that she was emotionally unequipped, through background (iranian bahai), education (high school), and age (19-20), to deal with the power imbalance in their relationship?
@21: no, women do NOT shoot men every day. men shoot women everyday.
@21: no, women do NOT shoot men every day. men shoot women everyday.
27
Christians (and other didactic pseudo-religious people) are hypocrites! Details at 11.
These (literal) fuckers will quote Leviticus to abhor gayness, but totally ignore admonitions 5 lines away about not eating pig-meat or shellfish. It's all a bunch of scheisse, and why should ANYBODY care at all?
These (literal) fuckers will quote Leviticus to abhor gayness, but totally ignore admonitions 5 lines away about not eating pig-meat or shellfish. It's all a bunch of scheisse, and why should ANYBODY care at all?
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18 - one offensive term begets another.
I would agree except for the cumbucket part, which is completely retarded.
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@26, sure. I am not saying I approve of his actions, just that to somehow suggest that it makes her the victim in his murder is wrong.
A guy from a very religious upbringing who engages in an honor killing is just as cultured into the behavior, but that does not make it right.
A guy from a very religious upbringing who engages in an honor killing is just as cultured into the behavior, but that does not make it right.
30
Gahhhh!!! Christians!!!! Hate Christians....
Me SMARTER than Christians!!!
Me BETTER than Christians!!!
Gahhhhh!!!!
Seriously, Sloggers. Sometimes... sometimes you guys suck more than I can take...
You self-righteous, smug fucktards are SO EASY TO BAIT.
You make Seattle look like it's full of nothing but douchebags.
Me SMARTER than Christians!!!
Me BETTER than Christians!!!
Gahhhhh!!!!
Seriously, Sloggers. Sometimes... sometimes you guys suck more than I can take...
You self-righteous, smug fucktards are SO EASY TO BAIT.
You make Seattle look like it's full of nothing but douchebags.
31
It seems silly to complain about hypocrisy by comparing one person against a stereotype.
Did I say silly? I meant ignorant, bigoted, prejudiced etc.
Did I say silly? I meant ignorant, bigoted, prejudiced etc.
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@29 it doesn't make her the victim of the murder, but it does make her story a sympathetic one. I don't think McNair deserved to die, but in the end he was the victim, in a large part, of his own exploitation of this woman.
Again, it doesn't make it ok, but it does show the deep misery that she was in and how few options she saw for herself.
Again, it doesn't make it ok, but it does show the deep misery that she was in and how few options she saw for herself.
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pointy I'm sure many of those guys that kill their wives are also pretty miserable and see few options. Just because he had sex with a young women doesn't mean he was manipulating her or abusing her in any way. And even if he was, being in a relationship where you don't meet all of your partner's needs is hardly a mortal sin.
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@32 So if a woman cheats on her husband who was raised in a culture where that is the ultimate betrayal, and he kills her, he was a victim too?
Sorry but no.
Sorry but no.
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"it does make her story a sympathetic one"
No it fucking doesn't. She was in a dissatisfying relationship. All there is is the story of a crazy person and the unlucky man who decided he wanted to have sex with her. Any further details are entirely imagined by the people who are projecting their own prejudices onto a story they actually know very little about.
No it fucking doesn't. She was in a dissatisfying relationship. All there is is the story of a crazy person and the unlucky man who decided he wanted to have sex with her. Any further details are entirely imagined by the people who are projecting their own prejudices onto a story they actually know very little about.
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@38 THANK YOU!!!!
I have no idea why this is so fascinating to some people.
@26 - women may not shoot men every day, but people are killed by people they fuck every day. Every single day. Just b/c she was pretty/Iranian/young/a drinker and he was black/older/famous?/married does not make this interesting.
I have no idea why this is so fascinating to some people.
@26 - women may not shoot men every day, but people are killed by people they fuck every day. Every single day. Just b/c she was pretty/Iranian/young/a drinker and he was black/older/famous?/married does not make this interesting.
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